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psychocyno
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:32:00 -
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Yes true, Not because power muffins BoB are going to pawn you all and conquer the eve universe, impossible due to empire, and BoB have done nothing on their own.Yes that is right , the blobits and bobits go hand in hand , also every time Bob gets in a pickle who they gonna call? Yep the MC slave alliance. saved BoB's skin loads lately.
Now for the juicy stuff, EvE kill itself? well yes , the reason is cap ships, they are overpowered behemoths that once you can deploy massive fleets of them no one can counter it; you need caps to take on caps in fleets. MC thinking they are so great with 90+ caps taking out DEK.. be honest now, who did they think was going to go toe to toe with those numbers?
And yes it is only time before all the main alliances go that route effectively locking the reast of you out of 0.0. playtime is over guys!The winners will be the guys that can replace their losses the fastest , or just have so many caps that the other guys is just going to get blobbed to hell and back, so what is really the point? we all join the stupid alliances with massive cap fleets? we cancel our accounts? go play in empire (been there done that).
Yes ccp are on the way to ruin the game for the sake of 'new content', should have got the 'old content' working properly and efficiently first really. Also the T3 battleships should have been dreads really, easier to replace and all pilots can achieve them relatively easy. Oh there it is , BoB and co. collect the older pilots.. you know , the ones that can fly caps! Also ccp like to give BoB free cap ships under teh guise of the as allways stupid 'tournaments' only alliances with massive isk and kills may win.(we all know who fits this profile perfectly).
So there you have it, the game is geared in favour of certain alliances, by allying with them you reduce the life expectancy of the game.
It would be interesting to actually gat a cap ship count on all alliances, it would be indicative of where EvE is really going.And if I may actually be right?
The game gets worse as it goes along to be real honest (nerf this , nerf that ... oh our prefered alliance lost a battle because of this 'n' that.. lets nerf them), and flame away guys, i really dont care what people think that can't be constructive or tow the ccp line, creep up to uncle BoB etc etc.
P.S I love you BoB guys when you rip into posts and stuff, You have posted some of the most funny and not very well thought out posts ever in the history of eve.
lastly ccp need to get back to the roots of the game and apply real physics to the game, real weaponry analysis along with armour/theoretical electromagnetic shield theory and all that too.sort out the stupid velocity's that ships can go too.these are but a few items , but main ones that are of combat nature.
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Popperr
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:34:00 -
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THANKS FOR THIS
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Ki An
Gallente KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:35:00 -
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Well, capships can be killed, as we just saw in Querios. It just takes a bit of dedication to do it.
/Ki
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:36:00 -
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Nerf whines!
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:39:00 -
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No it won't. EVE is just trying to get our attention. She'll just occasionally cut, if that. ******* emo games. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION | Forum Whiners - Unite! |
Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:44:00 -
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Interesting post, psychocyno. Not. - Security Director Advanced Logistics SPAM: [url=http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=563255]Interdictor tweaks[/url] |
psychocyno
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:57:00 -
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not at all a post on nerfing btw, read between the lines, the Eve killing itself relevant part is about cap ships in general.
And we are not talking about killing the odd cap ship....
To re-iterate :- it is about fleets of 100+ cap ships descending down on alliances that probably cant even muster 100 pilots... let 100 cap ship pilots.IT is an I WIN button for the game.People like to think that they have some kind of chance,If you truly understand cap ship mechanics then you will really be able to get a grip on what a mixed fleet of cap ships is capable of, and sadly that non-cap ships on this kind of scale are certainly incapable of standing toe to toe with such a force.
Also that the people capable of using this kind of tactic will be well versed in fleet warfare. I think the net result will be like a rather large steamroller... not like in the old days when you could rally with other alliances to get a similar blob to the blob you are threatened with,If you dont have the caps it will take a very long time to source them, then you will find that you dont have the pilots.. they will be very hard to source too. It takes a very long time to get to the right level to pilot a combat cap ship for all circumstances.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:07:00 -
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The Mungle pilgriffs far awoy Religeorge too thee worled. Sam fells on the waysock-side And somforbe on a gurled, With all her faulty bagnose!
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Angellyne
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:11:00 -
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Don't recent POS warfare changes actually make this sort of 'cap ship blobbing' more difficult? If so, it could be CCP is aware of (and already trying to prevent) the sort of steamrolling you describe.
Plus, if an alliance gets so powerful that it no longer faces a challenge, its members will probably get bored and go seek a challenge. That is, leave the alliance - and then maybe prey on it, start a new one, try to stake out territory, etc.
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JamesTalon
Caldari Electric Fury Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:14:00 -
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If an alliance can't muster cap ship pilots, then I wonder what they are doing. I trained for carriers and got into my first one a couple of months ago now I think. And that was going from being able to barely fly a raven, training up towards capital ships, and diverting alot of the time to train other skills. Does not take long to get someone into a capital ship such as a dread or a carrier. "Return with your shield, or on it." |
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Eemaavi
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:20:00 -
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Cyno Jammers FTW.. Pretty much put a crimp on your Cap fleet blobbing, (See Action in the South) What MC did before in the North with the Blob is not as do-able today. Beside if they are too too too much then they will probably get a nerf like the Titan. Yeah I'm an Alt- Go cry elswhere |
Meths
Caldari The Big Gay Animal Zoo
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: psychocyno Yes true, Not because power muffins BoB are going to pawn you all and conquer the eve universe, impossible due to empire, and BoB have done nothing on their own.Yes that is right , the blobits and bobits go hand in hand , also every time Bob gets in a pickle who they gonna call? Yep the MC slave alliance. saved BoB's skin loads lately.
Now for the juicy stuff, EvE kill itself? well yes , the reason is cap ships, they are overpowered behemoths that once you can deploy massive fleets of them no one can counter it; you need caps to take on caps in fleets. MC thinking they are so great with 90+ caps taking out DEK.. be honest now, who did they think was going to go toe to toe with those numbers?
And yes it is only time before all the main alliances go that route effectively locking the reast of you out of 0.0. playtime is over guys!The winners will be the guys that can replace their losses the fastest , or just have so many caps that the other guys is just going to get blobbed to hell and back, so what is really the point? we all join the stupid alliances with massive cap fleets? we cancel our accounts? go play in empire (been there done that).
Yes ccp are on the way to ruin the game for the sake of 'new content', should have got the 'old content' working properly and efficiently first really. Also the T3 battleships should have been dreads really, easier to replace and all pilots can achieve them relatively easy. Oh there it is , BoB and co. collect the older pilots.. you know , the ones that can fly caps! Also ccp like to give BoB free cap ships under teh guise of the as allways stupid 'tournaments' only alliances with massive isk and kills may win.(we all know who fits this profile perfectly).
So there you have it, the game is geared in favour of certain alliances, by allying with them you reduce the life expectancy of the game.
It would be interesting to actually gat a cap ship count on all alliances, it would be indicative of where EvE is really going.And if I may actually be right?
The game gets worse as it goes along to be real honest (nerf this , nerf that ... oh our prefered alliance lost a battle because of this 'n' that.. lets nerf them), and flame away guys, i really dont care what people think that can't be constructive or tow the ccp line, creep up to uncle BoB etc etc.
P.S I love you BoB guys when you rip into posts and stuff, You have posted some of the most funny and not very well thought out posts ever in the history of eve.
lastly ccp need to get back to the roots of the game and apply real physics to the game, real weaponry analysis along with armour/theoretical electromagnetic shield theory and all that too.sort out the stupid velocity's that ships can go too.these are but a few items , but main ones that are of combat nature.
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Nachshon
Caldari Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:38:00 -
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So, it's unbalanced that an alliance that has like 100 dreads can overpower one that can barely muster 100 pilots?
Please. It's just logical that such a thing could happen.
Though CCP might want to start working on some sort of counter to cap ships. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
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elohllird
Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:44:00 -
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What will ruin this game is when weight in numbers > skills or better ships. What will be the point of trainig for better ships when numbers pwns all.
/me goes off to recruit all of FNA
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EscapeArtist
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:54:00 -
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Thread of the day award....
Does not go to this thread right here. If CCP have an annouce of sence sets will be taken.
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:55:00 -
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Callthetruth
Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.08.02 01:25:00 -
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so they got 100 caps goons might have 20 and then a zerg oif 600 crash the system pick off the caps and the game balances out. How can bob and co adjust simple recruit all the GBC into bob and go zerg back.
Ends up as one big zerg then
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