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R'olyat
Gallente Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.02 03:37:00 -
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Normally I would not condone making whole new topics on a question that can easily be found through search but I am completely stumped here.
Here's the deal: Ever since rev 2.1 patch came out everytime I bring EVE to focus my cpu usage spikes up to 100% and stays at 100. It literally doesn't move until I close EVE.
I do have Vista if that's the problem but I havn't heard anyone else complain about an issue like this.
And btw before I get the "ZOMG NUB YOUR PROCESSOR IS TEH SUX" I run a Athlon 3800+. It's no fancy dual core but it should be getting the job done just fine. -------------------------
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Professional Troll
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Posted - 2007.08.02 03:39:00 -
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Eve is coded to allocate as much CPU to itself as possible. All CPU's go to 100% when Eve is primary.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.02 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Professional Troll Eve is coded to allocate as much CPU to itself as possible. All CPU's go to 100% when Eve is primary.
Dunno about this.
I have a Core-2 Duo and I have seen an increse in CPU usage running EVE but nothing like 100%. I am on XP though so perhaps that is a difference. At 2600+ Ghz I run EVE at around 55-60% CPU utilization. The second core runs around 5-10% (guessing EVE is not helped by the dual core and just runs on one).
Odd thing is that when I run a second client I get very little increase in utilization.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.02 04:46:00 -
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You dont see the second core used more because It really isnot.. You really can only run one thing at a time on a core... and that one thing can only be run by a single core. But, the second core takes over all the background stuff. From what I understand...
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.02 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 02/08/2007 07:01:10
Originally by: Lance Fighter You dont see the second core used more because It really isnot.. You really can only run one thing at a time on a core... and that one thing can only be run by a single core. But, the second core takes over all the background stuff. From what I understand...
It depends on how the software is written and how the operating system is implemented. If a program is written to make use of threading and if the OS is prepared to allow different threads from the same process to run on a different core then it will.
I'm not entirely sure whether Windows allows that but I think it probably does. If it doesn't then I would expect that Eve would 'hog' one core/CPU while the OS uses the other one(s) for itself and other running applications. It will also hog it if Eve isn't multi-threaded and it's entirely possible that Eve isn't.
As for the CPU hitting 100%..I'm not surprised for Eve because Eve is known to be very CPU intensive. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
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Lastdon
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Posted - 2007.08.02 07:08:00 -
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I use to have this problem for a bit. Mine ran around 85% for some reason. It cleared up a bit after one of those minor patches. Try uninstalling eve and reinstalling it. Or stop surfing **** and getting SPYWARE
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Malcanis
High4Life Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.02 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Professional Troll Eve is coded to allocate as much CPU to itself as possible. All CPU's go to 100% when Eve is primary.
Dunno about this.
I have a Core-2 Duo and I have seen an increse in CPU usage running EVE but nothing like 100%. I am on XP though so perhaps that is a difference. At 2600+ Ghz I run EVE at around 55-60% CPU utilization. The second core runs around 5-10% (guessing EVE is not helped by the dual core and just runs on one).
Odd thing is that when I run a second client I get very little increase in utilization.
Likewise.
And a 2.6Ghz C2D at 60% is fairly consistent with a 3800+ at 100%
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SteeleResolve
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.02 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lastdon I use to have this problem for a bit. Mine ran around 85% for some reason. It cleared up a bit after one of those minor patches. Try uninstalling eve and reinstalling it. Or stop surfing **** and getting SPYWARE
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
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Lastdon
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Posted - 2007.08.02 07:39:00 -
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You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
IBDS....
No your right..Hey OP go out and spend 1500 USD on a new computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.02 07:51:00 -
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Weird. My CPU usage is around 40(semi steady)
Can't say what could 'cause it though.
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ZenTex
Trade and Research Technologies
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:20:00 -
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Corpmate had the same problem, running 2 clients getting a problem. Checking my own client, it also went from 85199%. Definatly not what I'm used to.
So yeah, seems something has changed after the last patch.
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Fanjita
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Professional Troll Eve is coded to allocate as much CPU to itself as possible. All CPU's go to 100% when Eve is primary.
a total and utter fallacy
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Guilliman R
Gallente PRO Space Hunters Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Guilliman R on 02/08/2007 11:27:27 why should the game use 50%cpu if there's more availible, logicly speaking, you want any program to use all cpu availible . Whats wrong with that? As long as eve isnt slowing down, or other programs slow down, I don't really see the problem.
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Pabs Sco
Ecosse
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Pabs Sco on 02/08/2007 11:50:52 Excactly the same problem I have and posted about, I even bug reported it and got a "Could not repeat"
I am running XP, and even at login screen it uses 100% CPU
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the usage has nothing to do with Eve being CPU intensive, while sitting in station wtf does it need to use ALL the CPU???
Again this ONLY happens when eve has focus, bring another window infront and CPU usage drops.
Glad I cancelled my sub now
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: RaTTuS on 02/08/2007 11:58:14 Athlon Xp 2600+ Windows XP - lots of things running - eve takes up 17-41% of CPU on loader Screen [90% on focus] Core 2 2.4Ghz Windows XP - lots of things running - eve take up 7-10% CPU on loader screen [50% on focus] -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
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Pabs Sco
Ecosse
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Pabs Sco on 02/08/2007 12:00:54
Originally by: RaTTuS Edited by: RaTTuS on 02/08/2007 11:58:14 Athlon Xp 2600+ Windows XP - lots of things running - eve takes up 17-41% of CPU on loader Screen [90% on focus] Core 2 2.4Ghz Windows XP - lots of things running - eve take up 7-10% CPU on loader screen [50% on focus]
Excactly, why does changing the focus cause the spike in CPU?
Oh and notice the Core 2 is 50% meaning 1 core at 100% usage.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.02 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 02/08/2007 12:25:16
Let me tell you this, again, for the Nth time, because it seems most people don't get it (or forgot it, or never heard it before, or god knows what else).
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY FORMS OF FPS LIMITERS IN PLACE (which is usually the case with EVE, and it certainly is the default selected case), you SHOULD have a 100% CPU usage (or in the case of a dual-core/processor setup, above 50% CPU usage overall). What's so hard to understand ?
Set a FPS limiter in EVE (yes, there is such a thing, look for it in the graphics tab after you write advancedDevice=1 in your startup/configuration file) lower as the usual FPS you get... and you'll see a HUGE %CPU usage drop.
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Lucky 8
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.02 12:30:00 -
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When I run two clients on my dual core I get about 40-60% cpu usage on both cores (two installs on different drives)... first time Ive seen any software that seems to do this. --
Originally by: Nicho Void This thread is like a chum slick for forum alt trolls.
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Scorpyn
Caldari Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.02 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 02/08/2007 12:25:16
Let me tell you this, again, for the Nth time, because it seems most people don't get it (or forgot it, or never heard it before, or god knows what else).
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY FORMS OF FPS LIMITERS IN PLACE (which is usually the case with EVE, and it certainly is the default selected case), you SHOULD have a 100% CPU usage (or in the case of a dual-core/processor setup, above 50% CPU usage overall). What's so hard to understand ?
Set a FPS limiter in EVE (yes, there is such a thing, look for it in the graphics tab after you write advancedDevice=1 in your startup/configuration file) lower as the usual FPS you get... and you'll see a HUGE %CPU usage drop.
Bah, pretty much what I was about to post
Force vertical sync on in the video card settings and the problem should go away.
The cpu usage jumps on focus because of the way windows prioritizes stuff. Run in fullscreen for optimal performance.
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ET pwnedhome
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:32:00 -
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why don't you just buy an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 Quad core CPU, only about ú700 and if you can't afford to get a decent CPU perhaps you should play WoW instead?
/sarcasm
Eve wouldn't even run on my Vista PC and nothing on the forums provided a solution to it, and nothing I did helped.
Works lovely on XP though :)
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Kinomoto Sakura
Amarr FW Scuad
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:46:00 -
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Ive also notice this kinds of problems as of late, before (dunno when exactly) i ran lvl 4 missions and agroed lots of rats and theres was no problem, now when i get agroed by a lot of rats i get an absurd ammount of graphic lag wich i never got before, good thing is that the warp out works in time, heh |
MissileRus
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:49:00 -
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its normal for a game to use up to 100% CPU, most games do..
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Zepher8062
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 02/08/2007 12:25:16
Let me tell you this, again, for the Nth time, because it seems most people don't get it (or forgot it, or never heard it before, or god knows what else).
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY FORMS OF FPS LIMITERS IN PLACE (which is usually the case with EVE, and it certainly is the default selected case), you SHOULD have a 100% CPU usage (or in the case of a dual-core/processor setup, above 50% CPU usage overall). What's so hard to understand ?
Set a FPS limiter in EVE (yes, there is such a thing, look for it in the graphics tab after you write advancedDevice=1 in your startup/configuration file) lower as the usual FPS you get... and you'll see a HUGE %CPU usage drop.
I dont really have the problem with my CPU and what not but I would be interested if someone could walk me through how to do this advanced setup in the config file, preferably listing the file paths and such.
Cheers
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: ET pwnedhome why don't you just buy an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 Quad core CPU, only about ú700 and if you can't afford to get a decent CPU perhaps you should play WoW instead? /sarcasm
Eve wouldn't even run on my Vista PC and nothing on the forums provided a solution to it, and nothing I did helped. Works lovely on XP though :)
Why would anybody wilfully inflict the disaster that is Vista upon themselves, I have no idea (and no, "DX10" is not the correct answer... and the "I had to pick it at system purchase" ain't a really good one either). But I digress.
I also have a DURON 1100 (yes, Duron, the one before Athlon, and only at 1.1 GHz) and an ultra-cheap ATI 9550 video card (think it's less than 30$ nowadays)... it's the machine I am using right now. Ok, it does have 1 GB of RAM, but it also worked just fine with 512 MB (I ended up with 512 spare RAM from another machine). Well, it does get a pretty lousy frame rate in L4 missions and blob situations, but it's still playable. And by "playable" I mean I actually run L4 missions solo (preferably in a gang though, much more fun that way), and I also occasionally log on to the PvP alt char from this machine.
Another machine is a [email protected] GHz (HT). That machine only has 512 RAM (much better performance RAM though). The vidcard ain't much to look at either, a GeForce 5700. I disabled hyperthreading and the performance EVE gets is beyond reproach.
I still don't get it how people have such awesome gaming machines and complain of lousy performance and/or "too high CPU usages". Get off Vista, get better drivers, tweak your prefs.ini and in-game settings, remove overview clutter... THEN come back complaining.
As for bas FPS results (due to almost no vidcard GPU usage), and UI freezes (ancient network protocols AND bad UI design)... Yeah, those stink. I hope they finally bring out the upgraded graphics AND network engines. When that will be, I have no freaking idea.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zepher8062 I dont really have the problem with my CPU and what not but I would be interested if someone could walk me through how to do this advanced setup in the config file, preferably listing the file paths and such.
XP users look in C:\Documents and Settings\<YourWinUserName>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings\prefs.ini
add this to the start of the file:
advancedDevice=1 audio=0 buffersize=512
First line enables "advanced" graphics options. Second line disables sound in EVE (you don't really need sound, do you ?) Third line sets EVE to use up to 512 MB of RAM (default is 80).
Vista users ? Find the path yourself. Tweaking that file won't help YOU much anyway.
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Synnyr
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:18:00 -
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I run Vista 32-bit and have an AM2 6000+ x 2 CPU. When playing EVE I consistently have about 75% usage on both cores with RAM holding steady at about 33 percent (of 4 Gig).
No problems whatsoever. Smooth as silk. No crashing.
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Zepher8062
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Zepher8062 on 02/08/2007 14:35:19
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Zepher8062 I dont really have the problem with my CPU and what not but I would be interested if someone could walk me through how to do this advanced setup in the config file, preferably listing the file paths and such.
XP users look in C:\Documents and Settings\<YourWinUserName>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings\prefs.ini
add this to the start of the file:
advancedDevice=1 audio=0
buffersize=512
First line enables "advanced" graphics options. Second line disables sound in EVE (you don't really need sound, do you ?) Third line sets EVE to use up to 512 MB of RAM (default is 80).
Vista users ? Find the path yourself. Tweaking that file won't help YOU much anyway.
Thanks a bunch. Appreciate the help.
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ET pwnedhome
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T stuff and things
I really don't understand vista, I used it (got a version that needs no activation or anything, rather nice) so I can have an opinion on it, basically, and my opinion is a great big 'meh?'. That's all I can say about vista. I don't forsee myself ever using it, which means I will likely be using XP for another 5 years, although hopefully by then linux will be an all round better choice/have the programs I need.
my PC right now is a 3.4gig DC, 4gig ram, 7600GT, Specialised sound card, and bog standard raid0 HD, was cheap to put together and provides a lot of performance given you don't use extraneous graphics settings. Vista just does more harm than good however.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.02 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pabs Sco Excactly, why does changing the focus cause the spike in CPU?
It's a feature of Windows. It prioritises foreground tasks and when you switch away or from a task it does some housekeeping. Tbh I'm a little intrigued that it spikes when switch to Eve but when switching away the OS calls a Memory Manager function that sets about trimming what Microsoft call the 'working set'. Basically that means it tries to remove as much as possible from RAM and swap it to disk. This is why minimising/restoring Eve appeared to fix the infamous memory leak.
I didn't think Windows did anything much when you switched to a task but tbh it's the one area of Windows that I've never much liked. I much prefer the Linux/OS2 strategy of letting memory and resource usage work itself out. This constant meddling in working sets and whatnot seems like a bad idea. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
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Contralto
Gallente THE KENSEI
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Posted - 2007.08.02 15:20:00 -
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I have a dual core Amd 4400, if I set eve to use core 0 or 1 only, it uses 100% of that core all the time, set it to use both cores and it settles at about 40% to 70% depending on what I am doing. sometimes it is evenly balanced between the cores but on occasions one core will dip and the other rise to as much as 90% but only momentarily. I run a truck load of other junk in the background. |
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