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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:27:00 -
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Every day, people post ideas to change Eve. Some are cool, some require work, but some of them are so horrible that the threads spawn a million and one detailed explanations on why they are bad. Unfortunately, an even smaller subset of those keep coming up, wasting everyone's time and rage-energy.
What ideas to change Eve would you rather would never come up ever again (but most likely will anyway)?
I'll start with my top three:
- SP re-assignment
- Organized PvP "arenas"
- Line of sight combat mechanics
Tip: if you see an idea you want to post listed in this thread, please don't post it. |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
958
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:29:00 -
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"cloak sonar" or anything else that destroys cloaking PLEX for SP
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
464
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:30:00 -
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Eliminating the CSM. |
ElQuirko
The Demonfuge Malevolent Fan Club
307
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:34:00 -
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Giving the CSM any power |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:36:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Eliminating the CSM.
ElQuirko wrote:Giving the CSM any power
Changing the CSM. (working as intended) |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
328
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:36:00 -
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- WASD flight control, line of sight combat, and any other physically impossible feature - Remove Llvl4 from hisec or anything meaning "fuk hiseccers so they are forced to move out" - reassign SP, practice-gives-SP, leveling and other absolutely non-EVE mechanics
Just a start-up.
What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:37:00 -
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GÇ£SafeGÇ¥ space. Add [whatever] to the NeX. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
SAMANTHA TIKE
DEROB TinkerTown Terrorists
0
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:38:00 -
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Quote:Line of sight combat mechanics
We had this in 2003 with missiles but not guns
dock timers |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:41:00 -
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"Rebooting" Eve because it is dead because of Goonswarm |
baltec1
453
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:44:00 -
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nerf the blob
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.01.13 20:58:00 -
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Warp to Zero Auto Pilot. Removing Warp to Zero. Capchas for anything. PvP Flags. Ships with more Mining Yield. Controllable NPC Ships. NPC Hauling. Remove Killmails. |
Kristoffon Ellecon
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:03:00 -
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"Things you never want to see again" threads |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
252
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:14:00 -
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Kristoffon Ellecon wrote:"Things you never want to see again" threads Funny, but that's not an Eve idea proposal. I expected such a post, but I was hoping it would be better. Oh well. |
Nyssa Litari
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:44:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:- WASD flight control, line of sight combat, and any other physically impossible feature - Remove Llvl4 from hisec or anything meaning "fuk hiseccers so they are forced to move out" - reassign SP, practice-gives-SP, leveling and other absolutely non-EVE mechanics
Just a start-up.
Yes. And...
Alara IonStorm wrote:Warp to Zero Auto Pilot. Removing Warp to Zero. Capchas for anything. PvP Flags. Ships with more Mining Yield. Controllable NPC Ships. NPC Hauling. Remove Killmails. and...
- ****** (apparently you can't use a word that means "to slow down") target lock acquisition
- Buff Concord
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Atticus Lowa
Lowa Corp Industries and Security
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:45:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:- WASD flight control, line of sight combat, and any other physically impossible feature - Remove Llvl4 from hisec or anything meaning "fuk hiseccers so they are forced to move out" - reassign SP, practice-gives-SP, leveling and other absolutely non-EVE mechanics
Just a start-up.
since ship combat is entirely computerized, LoS is pointless, YOUR not shooting at targets, your ship itself is.
"remove PVE in general" "remove PVP in general"
guys EVE is intended to be a sandbox, shouldn't be forced into doing one thing, i for one mine AND mission run, and later will do wormhole ops... maybe when i get a bit more ballsy and get more skilled ill go into lower sec ops.
although i like what im seeing, i think CCP could do more, but then again i played WoW, i played GW... i think the industry is stale, your going to say an MMO sucks regardless of which one you pick thats just how it is now, why innovate when everyone else is doing the exact same thing? kind of makes me look forward to GW2 in a way at least it appears to be different. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
332
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:45:00 -
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DRONE IMPLANTS FFS!!!!! |
Atticus Fynch
326
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:45:00 -
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INCARNA Please help with a university research project by taking this simple survey on color and emotion.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/UNIVERSITYSTUDYLS |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
332
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:59:00 -
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SPARTA |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
234
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:01:00 -
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Some new range of T2 ships with no defined role beyond a gankier, tankier version of the existing T1 hull and based on nothing more than the writer wanting to see that T1 hull in a different colour scheme. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:08:00 -
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The Nex Store as a cash shop. Arum should be eliminated and Isk should be the universal currency in EVE. Players should build everything in in the NeX.
Disband the CSM. Use the money saved to fund a real community relations dept. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
817
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:10:00 -
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WiS The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
654
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:15:00 -
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I sense this thread will be bookmarked by all hungry trolls to use everything in here to get themselves enough body fat to get through the long , cold winter... -.- |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
257
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:16:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:I sense this thread will be bookmarked by all hungry trolls to use everything in here to get themselves enough body fat to get through the long , cold winter...
I am actually considering simply linking it whenever I see one of those ideas. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:19:00 -
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For once, we agree... morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Atticus Fynch
328
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:20:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:
Arent you and Morganta, sister? Please help with a university research project by taking this simple survey on color and emotion.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/UNIVERSITYSTUDYLS |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:44:00 -
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any thing about large fleet fight's and getting killed "to soon"(so don't do it if you hate big fight) any thing with about not having to wait for SP removal of____ (and no change up/replacement) _____titan___to much____ WiS Nurf minietard any kind of cap's in hi-sec Navy/pie dessy's or BC's(ships that use Race skills are fine) Jovian ships
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
257
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:49:00 -
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Topics I would like to never see again:
Removal of local Removal or not fully developing incarna CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. Subscribers can never answer a question posed to CCP. Only CCP can. |
Gummy Plaude
University of Caille Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:52:00 -
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- SOPA
Oh well, it may not be important enough... let me try again:
- Red mining beam
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Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
238
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:53:00 -
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The rage threads about WiS and the faces of some of the whiners. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2012.01.13 22:59:00 -
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Ideas/proposals that I HATE seeing are:
- PLEX/AUR for SP. - PLEX/AUR for SP remap. - SP through "grinding." - Arenas and "instanced environments." - NPC mercs and "helpers." - WASD/Joystick controls. - Obviously OPed ships and/or modules that can do everything. "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
53
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:03:00 -
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Atticus Lowa wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:- WASD flight control, line of sight combat, and any other physically impossible feature
since ship combat is entirely computerized, LoS is pointless, YOUR not shooting at targets, your ship itself is.
Line of site is cool, but agreed, it is quite impossible with current mechanics. Flying your ship First Person isn't however, and I think this is what people really want. It's the idea of the double-click interface, when trying to manage transversal and reduce incoming dps that makes combat so hard for some people, including myself.
Really, all we need is a First Person view with overview still available and a mini-'Overview' Radar. It's funny that in EVE, your view, HUD, and ship interface are collectively referred to as the overview; but the overview is actually just a list of targets in technical terms. Makes explaining that a tad awkward.
To be clear: Put the current screen view in a radar window, and give us first-person perspective piloting and control. It is quite possible, and very feasible. Everything else stays the same, and you can just switch control methods in ESC Menu or with a Hot-key.
I know right; you hate it already. I should expect to see this pop onto the list right below my post; or maybe a few down.
Good thing I'm getting marginally accustomed to click-click...click-click...... click-click...click-click.. after 4 years.
edit: ..hell, even first-person perspective and double-click would be easier; provided you had a control to click and activate a 180 degree turn or something.
edit 2: Oh yeah, and I love having to right-mouse, sweep to rotate view every time I want to change direction. Super easy when you're zoomed all the way out to see what's going on and you're not even sure which direction you're flying.
Good thing we have engine trails now. Gives me a little better reference point than a dot; for my opponents too. |
Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
654
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:20:00 -
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"Improve the forums... bring the old forum back...forum ate my post...." etc etc etc
Ok, the forum software sucks, but we all know that already, no need to point it out every day. Eve is just a cold and cruel world, so HTFU and never write a post that you cannot afford to lose. -.- |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
215
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:23:00 -
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The nerfing incurions ideas and well as ideas based on the idea that wardecs are broken. Threads like this generally result in anything positive.
Locked. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
53
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:37:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:"Improve the forums... bring the old forum back...forum ate my post...." etc etc etc
Ok, the forum software sucks, but we all know that already, no need to point it out every day. Eve is just a cold and cruel world, so HTFU and never write a post that you cannot afford to lose.
..or get firefox and that add-on that allows you to go back and find your post still in one piece. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
504
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:45:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:"Improve the forums... bring the old forum back...forum ate my post...." etc etc etc
Ok, the forum software sucks, but we all know that already, no need to point it out every day. Eve is just a cold and cruel world, so HTFU and never write a post that you cannot afford to lose. ..or get firefox and that add-on that allows you to go back and find your post still in one piece. Or use Chrome, which does that naturally. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
261
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:55:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:never write a post that you cannot afford to lose.
Have all my likes! |
Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:04:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Mars Theran wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:"Improve the forums... bring the old forum back...forum ate my post...." etc etc etc
Ok, the forum software sucks, but we all know that already, no need to point it out every day. Eve is just a cold and cruel world, so HTFU and never write a post that you cannot afford to lose. ..or get firefox and that add-on that allows you to go back and find your post still in one piece. Or use Chrome, which does that naturally.
or crtl+a and crtl+c. Keep crtl+v on stand by. |
Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors
56
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GÇ£SafeGÇ¥ space. Add [whatever] to the NeX.
pretty much this. |
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
24
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:12:00 -
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1. Skills that train as you use them, instead of being on a timer like it is now. Seriously, there's enough grind already. 2. $, isk, plex, whatever for skillpoints. No pay to win plz. 3. Nerfing hi sec even more. |
Wacktopia
Noir.
142
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:31:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:
- SP re-assignment
- Organized PvP "arenas"
- Line of sight combat mechanics
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CONGRATULATIONS for posting the three worst ideas in the history of EVE. Please for the love of all things good tell me you are trolling.
- SP re-assignment. No. You chose those skills and if you want to learn more just learn them. End of it.
- "Organised PvP Arenas". Look, this isn't WOW or TOR. Its EVE! Eve is hard! If you want these mechanics please look elsewhere.
- Like of sight mechanics. Loads of extra CPU load on the server for hardly any gain given how empty space generally is.
Here, have a fail-medal. >o . |
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Aestivalis Saidrian
SplitPush Mercantiles
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:36:00 -
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Nyssa Litari wrote:
- ****** (apparently you can't use a word that means "to slow down") target lock acquisition
- Buff Concord
So much this. Oh my god this. |
CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:41:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:
- Line of sight combat mechanics
. - Like of sight mechanics. Loads of extra CPU load on the server for hardly any gain given how empty space generally is.
I liek like of site mehcanics. |
Wacktopia
Noir.
142
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:45:00 -
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- BLOPS covert cloak - Items in the NeX Store (let it die) - T3 Frigates . |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
9
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:46:00 -
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Skill point reassignment Arenas Cloaking nerfs; cloaking fuel; cloak-finding probes: de-cloaking pulses or fields or confetti |
Wacktopia
Noir.
142
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:46:00 -
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CATPAIN KIRK wrote:Wacktopia wrote: - Like of sight mechanics. Loads of extra CPU load on the server for hardly any gain given how empty space generally is.
I liek like of site mehcanics.
Aha, my wine-fueled posting has been noticed. I actually misread OP's post ;) Enough forums for me I think. . |
Cire XIII
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:47:00 -
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Formation flying. |
Qin Shi Huang
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:49:00 -
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WiS and micro-transactions |
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:55:00 -
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- WiS - Arenas - Even safer highsec |
Tuggboat
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.01.14 00:58:00 -
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[Nerfs]
[Balance] [Tears] [Miners] [Goons] [Bears]
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Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
18
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Posted - 2012.01.14 01:04:00 -
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Scorch nerf |
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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
81
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:16:00 -
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Mounting BFGuns on LFShips. Yes, I only have a Vigil, I've had a bad bit of luck Ok? |
Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd New Eden's Industrial Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.01.14 06:24:00 -
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this one |
W1rlW1nd
The Scope Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.01.14 09:39:00 -
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"change the font back to the old one" where the letters and numbers looked the same.
Wacktopia wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: ...
- Line of sight combat mechanics
. Yes, these are the three worst ideas ever.
Wat!? ou LIKE that weapons can magically shoot through solid objects to hit things on the other side?
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Valei Khurelem
147
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Posted - 2012.01.14 09:42:00 -
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Nex Store and this was proposed by CCP. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
504
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Posted - 2012.01.14 09:47:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Eliminating the CSM. Eliminate 0.0 alliances from CSM
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Halcyon Ingenium
Infomorph Research and Technology
127
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Posted - 2012.01.14 09:50:00 -
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Any thread that proposes changes to high/low/null because someone in null/low/high doesn't like those people in high/low/null and perceives them as being richer/richer/richer then he/she/it because of X/Y/Z. That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire, the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man, replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |
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