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crash003
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: fisty Target calling and comms dicipline could've been better. Looked like a fun fight though ;)
target calling and comms dicipline .. pfff some ppl take it too seriously... listen closly to about 8 mins in =)
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Hudsonn
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 17:41:00 -
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Well put together mate. I hope we get some more fights like that ___________________________
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Grez
Minmatar Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 17:55:00 -
[63]
Originally by: crash003
Originally by: fisty Target calling and comms dicipline could've been better. Looked like a fun fight though ;)
target calling and comms dicipline .. pfff some ppl take it too seriously... listen closly to about 8 mins in =)
Just be thankful I wasn't on Vent at the time!
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BaliAgha
Storm Corporation Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.08.14 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: BaliAgha on 14/08/2007 20:26:12
Originally by: crash003
Originally by: fisty Target calling and comms dicipline could've been better. Looked like a fun fight though ;)
target calling and comms dicipline .. pfff some ppl take it too seriously... listen closly to about 8 mins in =)
lol, I hear that.. makes me want to say 'STFU'!
I love people that have to scream Oh.. and laughing into your mic.. umm yea.. another 'STFU' thing
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Peanorue
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Posted - 2007.08.14 22:00:00 -
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Funny how you guys docked (sybrite) we start collecting loot crash says about him clearing he's cache then the fleet end up in slideshow mode our numbers more than halfed then you guys undock and start popping people that are lagged out.
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mallina
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: mallina on 14/08/2007 22:09:05
Pfft, nothing I hate more than Teamspeak/local chat ****s who scream at you whenever you say a word in vent or local. So long as your members are mature and half-decent PvPers, there's really no need for such rules :)
oh yeah, clearing cache = relogging. Most of Sybrite did so, to improve performance on undock - apparently none of GZ did, so their performance wasn't as good, seemingly.
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Intigo
Amarr The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.08.14 22:10:00 -
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GZ are trash PvP'ers, anyone who has fought them knows this.
Well done, Sybrite, keep it up. \o/ --
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Hudsonn
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.14 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Hudsonn on 14/08/2007 23:22:15
Originally by: Peanorue Funny how you guys docked (sybrite) we start collecting loot crash says about him clearing he's cache then the fleet end up in slideshow mode our numbers more than halfed then you guys undock and start popping people that are lagged out.
The lag was getting so so bad, we had to. If you guys werent miles of the station you could of done also....Plus, it wasnt exactly an even fight now, was it. Infact i think your blob tactics made the lag even worse. Jesus would spit! ___________________________
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Lilith Veco
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.15 12:40:00 -
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Our Target Calling was Fine Plus I was Flying 2 Accounts During That Battle While Also FC'ing , I Thought We Did Fine.
Even Had Time To ***** Some "300" Jokes :)
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simonsnizzle16
The Rat Pack
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Posted - 2007.08.15 14:46:00 -
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Nice video. You knew as soon as someone said this is madness the 300 quote was coming. Looked liked a fun battle keep up the good work
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.15 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: MrBadidea Although I do blame that on the fact I wanted my uberawesome Leadership character out there as well handing out some tasty Gang bonuses :P
Thought I was beginning to recognise too many names in Sybrite
D/Ling video now. Will watch it tomorrow \o/
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Hudsonn
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.16 18:07:00 -
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That's a good thing yeah ? ___________________________
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arbalesttom
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:22:00 -
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1-3 odds for sybrite, true. But we dont have (stolen) hulk bpo's and we didnt had commandships, commandships, more command ships and carriers with faction/officer fittings
Nice vid anyway
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Maximor
Fifth Exiled Legion Ground Zeero
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Posted - 2007.08.27 12:04:00 -
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It was a good fight till the lag bomb exploded. Well edited video. I would like to point out though, that none of the ships shown after the undock were actually returning fire. Many of them sat there in their pods for quite a while. Most of the pilots who logged out to clear lag, returned to their pods. That might give you an idea just how bad the lag actually was. The Khanid node must have a geriatric hampster or something.
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Cargion
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:31:00 -
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I FC'd for the GZ fleet, the beggining fight (with zero lag) was excellent, couldn't have had more fun. The blob thing is an addaptation. Yes GZ has carbears, yes not EVERY pilot in GZ is combat, so we adapt and work with what we got. GZ has about a 60% Industrial/ Mining base 30% combat, and rest are a mix. Sybrite is a group of guys how ever distastfull in they're local chat, do work well together, so it's not a surprise that they have success vs. a much larger group who have to support members who don't PvP, we can't protect everyone. I would preffer some much deserved honor for bring you guys the fights we have, no matter the losses we always came to fight.
I personaly could stand to learn from your fleet tactics, I personaly had to laugh at "why did they have to primary me" sense I was the one calling primary's. We also changed tactics out of the ordinary, by primary the Tempyst first over the Caldari Navy Rohk, which is the commin primary. I also called for jamming of both Carriers sybrite had available, it's harry FCing for such a large ship specialy out side forces not acclimated to GZ fleet ops. Also our carriers came in last minuete, I was very unhappy that not only were they not in gang, but I was kept in the dark about them last min; over all I'm glad we were able to make something out of the problems we had.
Finaly I am surprised that you guys aren't younger as is reflective of your local chat, and I would like to point out that when they undock, look closely at the overview on the right not a single person targets them back or makes an attempt to leave, as well as the guilty "Comms disabled."
GF Cargion
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Glauxian Brothers Ground Zeero
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:00:00 -
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It was pretty fun fight at start but end with the huge lag thing, meh. We lost many ships just because they were lagged out.
Anyway it was a good fight (well in a way :p) and we "carebears" learned a lot from that.
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Viro Melchior
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Posted - 2007.08.27 16:40:00 -
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A+ for the video. Nice work on that.
As far as this thread goes though, it seems you are just looking for more vindication that you all are better than you really are.
We have been informed by GMs that you were using cans before the combat to enhance your station camp via lag. We are talking with the GMs about other situations where game mechanics that have already been announced by CCP as exploits may have also been used. We'll see where that goes.
So honestly, I don't really think you deserve to be claiming "odds against" in this thread. Like all too many fleet battles, lag was a deciding factor, and in this case it crippled our fleet - many of whom are not regular combat pilots. That itself is acceptable. **** happens. But using these situations to stroke your ego is rather childish. I look forward to further fights though - and challenge you guys to try fighting in systems without stations to hide in or camp.
Oh - and a public and official apology here for the player that was harassing your Vent. If it happens again, let us know with proof and we'll take care of it. I personally can't stand that level of meta-gaming (effectively directly attacking out-of-game assets, funded by real money).
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Grez
Minmatar Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Viro Melchior Oh - and a public and official apology here for the player that was harassing your Vent. If it happens again, let us know with proof and we'll take care of it. I personally can't stand that level of meta-gaming (effectively directly attacking out-of-game assets, funded by real money).
We know who it is, and I've given all the proof that ReconPete needs. ---
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NeOnicuS
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: NeOnicuS on 27/08/2007 18:02:54
Originally by: Cargion ... the Caldari Navy Rohk, which is the commin primary....
I love making Caldari Navy Rokh's primary don't you?
Also: Why have you bumped this thread after 2 weeks? GIVE IT A REST! -----------
Yaarrr!!
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Sarah Benthwell
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: NeOnicuS Edited by: NeOnicuS on 27/08/2007 18:09:20
Edit3: Viro Melchior, or the carrier lossmail which took over a week to be posted?
I had to post that killmail, and MANY others.
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crash003
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Viro Melchior
We have been informed by GMs that you were using cans before the combat to enhance your station camp via lag. We are talking with the GMs about other situations where game mechanics that have already been announced by CCP as exploits may have also been used. We'll see where that goes.
so your actually saying that having to load those extra 5 or 6 cans cause you soo much greif that lost? god knows how many petitions u make when warping to an asteroid field then. ofc... we didnt lag atall.. watching ure blob warp in caused no lag whatsoever on our part.
a small note to anyone who wonders what actually goes on, sybrite has been petitioned for every big kill, large fight that GZ has lost to us.. and nobody in sybrite has heard anything from any GMs about us exploiting.
learn to play the game, then ull win.. until then.. keep renting a system from smashkill.. well be waiting.
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Lilith Veco
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Veco on 27/08/2007 19:08:16
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Maximor
Fifth Exiled Legion Ground Zeero
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
Originally by: Viro Melchior Oh - and a public and official apology here for the player that was harassing your Vent. If it happens again, let us know with proof and we'll take care of it. I personally can't stand that level of meta-gaming (effectively directly attacking out-of-game assets, funded by real money).
We know who it is, and I've given all the proof that ReconPete needs.
If you know who it is, out them right here. Viro has already pointed out that we don't approve of metagaming. And I can bet good money if Pete had actually been sent the info, said tard would have had the steel toed boot by now
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NeOnicuS
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Maximor
Originally by: Grez
Originally by: Viro Melchior Oh - and a public and official apology here for the player that was harassing your Vent. If it happens again, let us know with proof and we'll take care of it. I personally can't stand that level of meta-gaming (effectively directly attacking out-of-game assets, funded by real money).
We know who it is, and I've given all the proof that ReconPete needs.
If you know who it is, out them right here. Viro has already pointed out that we don't approve of metagaming. And I can bet good money if Pete had actually been sent the info, said tard would have had the steel toed boot by now
Simon Perry. -----------
Yaarrr!!
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Grez
Minmatar Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 27/08/2007 20:26:21
Originally by: Maximor
Originally by: Grez
Originally by: Viro Melchior Oh - and a public and official apology here for the player that was harassing your Vent. If it happens again, let us know with proof and we'll take care of it. I personally can't stand that level of meta-gaming (effectively directly attacking out-of-game assets, funded by real money).
We know who it is, and I've given all the proof that ReconPete needs.
If you know who it is, out them right here. Viro has already pointed out that we don't approve of metagaming. And I can bet good money if Pete had actually been sent the info, said tard would have had the steel toed boot by now
It's Simon Perry. The person logging into our Ventrilo repetitively had the name "Grav1ty", which was the name of several of his ships. Not to mention a DNS lookup of his IP revealed that it came from the area he lived in.
There were cans left around with my personal Ventrilo server details in it, all of which were from Simon Perry (or of which we were told were from, as people kept logging in to tell me). I've also sent images of the ban list, and the IP ranges, that support this.
The hilarious part about all of it was that it wasn't just Simon, but some of his friends, or corp mates. It's also hilarious that it wasn't actually Sybrite's vent server, but my own personal one, of which my family and some of my work colleagues use.
Ultimate laming just because you can't win in a game of internet spaceships.
Sad. ---
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Viro Melchior
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:10:00 -
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My words seem a bit misunderstood. I was saying we ARE sorry this occured. Yes, we already have knowledge of who it was, and this issue has been addressed. If it occurs AGAIN in the future, bring it to us with proof, and we won't be as easy on the culprit again.
The fake killmails were addressed quite quickly - I was looking into them before I was even contacted. But with your history, your corporation has zero credibility for "our word vs theirs". I followed it up, and the issue was resolved.
As far as the loss mails, I hadn't noticed that they were posted. Please stop posting loss mails to our killboard. I'll go ahead and remove those until the petition is cleared up and we have a GM answer on whether they were legitimate kills (and yes, we count deaths to lag and other "bad luck" as legit, just not POS bowling).
Everyone in the alliance knows that our leader, Pete, can't PvP to save his life. Neither can my corporate CEO (I had to refit a Raven of his this last week so he could rat better as he had an XL Shield Booster, Medium Hull Repper, and Large Armor Repper among other things). That doesn't make them any worse at leading. Remember, we aren't a pvp-centric alliance, we actually do OTHER things as well. If you find Fourtho, Sean, or our other FCs and military leaders fitting stuff like that, THEN you should care. But Pete is excused. He does his job quite well regardless of his ship fits.
As far as the cans, we brought the GM in ahead of time so that there would be someone present for the battle because Khanid has had such a bad history of lagfests in even small (30v30) fleet battles. In the course of his observing, he found the "lagbomb" style cans. Their existence before the battle did not affect the battle itself, and they were gone for the battle. That doesn't change the fact that Sybrite used them, and hence uses exploits that are warnable and bannable offenses. That's an issue for the GMs to pursue though, not for us.
Back to the Vent attacks though... Shortly after this occured, one of your own members began attacking our Vent server. This may be "fair play", but it removes all innocence for your own corporation. You can not whine about your "personal" server being attacked if you allow your members to turn around and do it in retaliation. Again though, I apologize for the actions of my alliance member, and believe that the issue has been resolved. No damage was done to your server, only disruption of the usage by his antics. If it happens again, more serious measures will be taken.
Viro Melchior
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Grez
Minmatar Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 27/08/2007 23:40:41 It had been going on for three weeks before that happened. The fact that Sybrite didn't retaliate for that period of time, and the fact that they stopped it when they were aware it was happening, shows some sort of honour on their part (a rare word to be used with us :P). We know that a lot of your alliance was aware of what was going on with the meta-gaming, and did nothing to stop it, which shows quite the opposite.
I'd also love to know how cans with a single ammo charge to stop the carriers being bumped can be considered "lag bombs", but I guess that's up to the GM at the time to decide. This either shows extreme lacking in research on the GM's end, or you're bull****ting out the rear. I'm not going to decide on either, as it's not my place to, but we have no reason to fill cans with bookmarks or what not to lag out the battle. Not only is it detrimental to you, but to us also, and would give us no benefit, in actual fact, it would be just as detrimental to us.
Not to mention we also anticipated that there was a possibility that the system may go **** up, so not only did we contact a GM before hand to ask for extra power to the node - we also re-logged when we docked up, and cleared our cache's.
Now, why on Earth would we contact a GM to ask for extra power to the node, if we wanted to lag out the battlefield in order to gain an 'advantage' (which wouldn't really serve as one, as we'd just be lagged out as much as you). We relied on carrier support far more than you in the battle (with less people fighting), and so if anything, we relied heavily on the hope that we didn't lag. A second extra on a carrier rep would of meant the Tempest pilot would of died way before he did.
On the vent attacks - they seem to have stopped for now. It's a shame not only Sybrite and myself had to suffer, but my personal friends and colleagues too, who had nothing to do with EVE, Sybrite, or GZ. ---
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Lilith Veco
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Veco on 27/08/2007 23:57:26
HAHAHA omg you guys did remove the carrier kill mail from your kill board. that is classic, see for any one who would like to know *whispers* this carrier was at a pos without a password teehee. you may want to stop petitioning all your losses as well getting frustrating. linky to the to kill
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0708/d810b32a40d722c5c8a7c367a70c9c30.jpg
also its so odd how cannot accept you lost fair and square, i mean had the GMs accused us cheating or lagging or anythign of that nature im sure we may have heard something by now but im afraid we have not been contacted at all. it was your 70 man fleets drones and wrecks that lagged us all and our clearing caches that got you all killed.
if any one is interested here is the board have a look at most of the kills by us to them most are due to "lag" or "bugs" not us. but meh.
http://reconpete.net/kb/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=430
liltih
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Viro Melchior
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:09:00 -
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As soon as we get a response on whether or not the POS was an exploit. If it was not, the kill mail will be promptly posted.
What I still can't understand though - is with all the duplicity (lieing, scamming, etc) that Sybrite does, HOW do you have the gall to whine about fake killmails, unposted killmails, and such. Honestly, killboards aren't even a proper measure of the results of a conflict, much less a campaign. Rather they provide useful information to interested parties. You have the killmail on your killboard, and I won't whine about it staying there even if the kill is ruled an exploit. But the killboard for Ground Zeero will be a proper representation of our strenghts and weakness to OUR members, not to yours. I do my utmost to make sure valid kills are on our board, including synchronizing it with 15 other killboards on a weekly basis. I talk to player who fail to post losses from pvp and get on their case if it happens more than once. Our killboard isn't something you need to worry about. You know how you're doing in the conflict, and you can point third parties interested to YOUR killboard.
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Lilith Veco
Caldari Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:29:00 -
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it just amuses me that you think the defeat had nothing to do with you,all "lag" and "spliots" thats all.
A kill board is a perfect way to show how a corp is doing. both your kill board and our kill board shows you got slaughtered by us,and then forced out of the region. your kill board is a never ending source of amusement for all our guys. we just cant wait till you run out of money and can no longer hide behind roadkill and come crawling back.
when will you just accept you lost fairly. the vid is there to see i fail to see lag .
oh well.
lilith
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