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port22
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2007.08.16 08:54:00 -
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I fly an astarte. I nearly have it maxxed out. WIth max skills in quickfit, with faction gear and full gank it shows it is possible to achieve 1600dps+ with Void and Hammerhead II's. Remembering Medium T2 Neutrons do hit big targets very well with their scan resolution.
Fantasy or Reality? Your comments please....
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
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Xequecal
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:00:00 -
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You are messing something up. Dominix with 4x faction Magstab, 6 LARGE neutrons, and 5 heavy drones with maxxed skills won't hit 1600 DPS.
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port22
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:06:00 -
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Edited by: port22 on 16/08/2007 09:06:12 I also forgot to include, this includes all implants that affect dmg and rof at 5%. And includes a rof hybrid rig.
The astarte dmg is quite frankly amazing. :o
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
'We dont fight fair' -Fall Out Boy |
KD.Fluffy
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:16:00 -
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quickfit is borked... use EFT. Astarte won't ever hit that dps, something is not stacking nerfed like it should be on there.
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Addison Caine
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:16:00 -
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I'm gonna need to see some proof for this one. =P
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Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:23:00 -
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Can do 1k easy with all those implants etc. 1600 no way -_- ----------------------------------------------- I got something to put in you. at the *** bar. |
Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:25:00 -
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Can do 1k easy with all those implants etc. 1600 no way -_- ----------------------------------------------- I got something to put in you. at the *** bar. |
Kathira
Gallente Denial of Service Freelancer Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:30:00 -
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Made a quick EFT. 4 Cormac damage mods ( + 15 % ) 2 Damage rigs II best Implants I found Neutron Blaster II 1005 dps
How you get the last 595 dps?
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Liang Nuren
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kathira Made a quick EFT. 4 Cormac damage mods ( + 15 % ) 2 Damage rigs II best Implants I found Neutron Blaster II 1005 dps
How you get the last 595 dps?
did you forget 5x hammer II's and max skills?
Liang
Originally by: "QproQ"
When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
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port22
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:35:00 -
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Yeah im believing 1000-1300dps easily as several of my targets will confirm im sure.
This is a fully faction fit with x4 shadow serp mag stabs with implants and rigs. It is against 0% resists in quickfit so its raw dps. Not a real life scenario but im sure with this setup it would put out more dmg than a ***** on *****.
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
'We dont fight fair' -Fall Out Boy |
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Neena Valdi
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Xequecal You are messing something up. Dominix with 4x faction Magstab, 6 LARGE neutrons, and 5 heavy drones with maxxed skills won't hit 1600 DPS.
Dominix isn't even supposed to. Check Astarte bonuses.
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zayanka
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:38:00 -
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in theroy in quickfit it is possible to achieve around 1500 dps....and with mega 1800 dps.... but with those setups it is impossible to fly around
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Evainya
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:41:00 -
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I quickfitted a Navythron to 2300 DPS, go full officer gear and it gets up there easy. Dunno if it is accurate, but regardless, not gonna happen :P
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Bentula
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:54:00 -
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Ok something is really messed up, do you all have last quickfit version? Also be aware that quickfit doesnt take stacking for rigs into account, so if you rely on rigs you just made a fantasy setup.
Max damage is around 1400 dps, and thats with 4x best officer MFS. Still pretty crazy damage if you ask me. Also dont use void, use faction ammo like dread guristas AM or stuff.
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port22
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2007.08.16 09:59:00 -
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In a real life setup i do use faction ammo. I used void cause you get that slight dmg increase. Im actually currently at work, about to finish so ill go home and run the numbers again. It did however definately pump out 1600dps according to quickfit. But as explained here quickfit isnt exactly accurate.
Just so we are clear, this is not a post saying I have a 1600dps astarte lol.
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
'We dont fight fair' -Fall Out Boy |
DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.16 10:08:00 -
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I just saw the title containing dps and quickfit and i'm gonna take a guess and say fantasy.
DE
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.16 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 16/08/2007 10:18:38 If you don't use damage rigs which are bugged in quickfit (no stacking penalty), quickfit numbers are perfectly accurate as long as you have one of the more recent versions. The last quickfit version that was inaccurate due to bugs with modules is quite old, the myth is just held up by a bunch of ignorant people who seem to feel better by belittling people using quickfit.
That said, the maxskill Astarte I just hacked into quickfit gives me 1234 dps, nowhere near 1600. That is using 7 Heavy Neutron 2 @ void, 3 Cormack Magstabs and 5 HH2, 5% turret RoF and 5% med hybrid damage implants.
Maybe the OPs quickfit is really that old...
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Kathira Made a quick EFT. 4 Cormac damage mods ( + 15 % ) 2 Damage rigs II best Implants I found Neutron Blaster II 1005 dps
How you get the last 595 dps?
did you forget 5x hammer II's and max skills?
Liang
Dude, not even a Moros with max. skills gets 595 DPS from 5 Hammer II's...
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phantom crash
Caldari Paisti
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:37:00 -
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QuickFit sucks, especially for DPS calculations, use EFT...
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Kathira Made a quick EFT. 4 Cormac damage mods ( + 15 % ) 2 Damage rigs II best Implants I found Neutron Blaster II 1005 dps
How you get the last 595 dps?
did you forget 5x hammer II's and max skills?
Liang
Dude, not even a Moros with max. skills gets 595 DPS from 5 Hammer II's...
u will reach 1000 dps with moros and max skills with 5 hammer II -.-
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port22
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:52:00 -
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I think I may have to give this EFT a go.
I just downloaded the latest Quickfit.
I dont believe this to be an unreasonible kit except the 0 tank on it. Purely gank setup. The load out is as follows with skills maxed.
x7 Neutron Blaster II's 10mn MWD II, Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I, Warp Disruptor II, DB Med Cap Boost Corp A Type Med Arm Rep, x4 Shadow Serp Stabs, Reactor Contol Unit II
Hybrid Burst Aerator I, Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
x5 Hammerhead II's
Using Void and drones it is achieving raw dps of 1581.403. 95 PG/107CPU left over.
Would be a hell of a fit to use on someone if they werent shooting back hehe.
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
'We dont fight fair' -Fall Out Boy |
Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
u will reach 1000 dps with moros and max skills with 5 hammer II -.-
Dream on ... Your math sucks. ;-)
Dread L5 = +250% (= * 3.5) Combat Drone Operation L5 = +25% (= * 1.25) Drone Interfacing L5 = +100% (= *2) Gallente Drone Specialization L5 = +10% (= *1.1)
Base damage: 12 damage * 1.92 damage mod / 2 duration = 11.52 DPS (for 1 Hammerhead II)
Total: 11.52 * 3.5 * 1.25 * 2 * 1.1 = 110.88 DPS per drone, 554.4 DPS for 5 Hammerhead II.
You're probably thinking of Ogre II. Noob. ;-)
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port22
Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
u will reach 1000 dps with moros and max skills with 5 hammer II -.-
Dream on ... Your math sucks. ;-)
Dread L5 = +250% (= * 3.5) Combat Drone Operation L5 = +25% (= * 1.25) Drone Interfacing L5 = +100% (= *2) Gallente Drone Specialization L5 = +10% (= *1.1)
Base damage: 12 damage * 1.92 damage mod / 2 duration = 11.52 DPS (for 1 Hammerhead II)
Total: 11.52 * 3.5 * 1.25 * 2 * 1.1 = 110.88 DPS per drone, 554.4 DPS for 5 Hammerhead II.
You're probably thinking of Ogre II. Noob. ;-)
Was he meaning the moros's guns and drones perhaps?
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
'We dont fight fair' -Fall Out Boy |
Yuleth Gix
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:59:00 -
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Easy to figure out your real dps sans drones...
Just undock drop a can, shoot it... x[number of guns] / [rof] = presto!
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Yuan Thi
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Posted - 2007.08.16 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Yuan Thi on 16/08/2007 12:00:27
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
u will reach 1000 dps with moros and max skills with 5 hammer II -.-
Dream on ... Your math sucks. ;-)
Dread L5 = +250% (= * 3.5) Combat Drone Operation L5 = +25% (= * 1.25) Drone Interfacing L5 = +100% (= *2) Gallente Drone Specialization L5 = +10% (= *1.1)
Base damage: 12 damage * 1.92 damage mod / 2 duration = 11.52 DPS (for 1 Hammerhead II)
Total: 11.52 * 3.5 * 1.25 * 2 * 1.1 = 110.88 DPS per drone, 554.4 DPS for 5 Hammerhead II.
You're probably thinking of Ogre II. Noob. ;-)
add some target painters and you will get alot of wreckings/goodhits = big dmg increase keke 1000 dps was propably estimated but a bit over. |
twit brent
Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.08.16 12:17:00 -
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On tranquility before the nerf to gleam I could get my geddon to over 1000DPS lasers only to tachyons at 50km range. I think it was arround 1100 dps with 46km optimal.
Had 5% large energy turret dmg and 5% rof implants. 1 tairels and 1 brokara's modified heatsinks (spelling) with 2 dark blood heatsinks. Also Maxed skills.
After they nerfed gleam I kinda stopped trying but I think I could get arround that again in an abaddon.
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Satura
Caldari Mucho Dolor The Insomniacs
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Posted - 2007.08.16 12:22:00 -
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I believe is possible. Just tryed it with a brutix in quickfit with a rof rig, no faction stuff, no implants, 996dps on 0 resists. 25% more damage from Command ship bonus, some more from implants, and some from those faction MFS's. Not fantasy imo. |
Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.16 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: port22 Edited by: port22 on 16/08/2007 12:02:29 Edited by: port22 on 16/08/2007 11:55:01 I think I may have to give this EFT a go.
I just downloaded the latest Quickfit.
I dont believe this to be an unreasonible kit except the 0 tank on it. Purely gank setup. The load out is as follows with skills maxed.
x7 Neutron Blaster II's 10mn MWD II, Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I, Warp Disruptor II, DB Med Cap Boost Corp A Type Med Arm Rep, x4 Shadow Serp Stabs, Reactor Contol Unit II
Hybrid Burst Aerator I, Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
x5 Hammerhead II's
Using Void and drones it is achieving raw dps of 1581.403. 95 PG/107CPU left over.
With x4 cormacks mag stabs it achieves 1671.556 (apparently) and a dmg mod of 18.153 :o
Would be a hell of a fit to use on someone if they werent shooting back hehe.
Well here is the reason for your dps. Like already mentioned twice in this thread, quickfit damage rigs are not stacking penalized so the numbers are WAY too high. In reality those two rigs would have almost zero effect. Aside from damage rigs though, quickfit raw dps IS accurate most of the time. And it has a much better breakdown than the imho totally overrated EFT which lacks a ton of key features and conveniece still. Offering crucial info only in tooltips alone totally turns me away from it, as does the lack of favorites for modules. It has potential to surpass quickfit, but atm the latter is more useful for ships that have not been changed in recent/future patches (the quickfit db is a bit out of date regrettably).
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.16 12:24:00 -
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Overheat: +15% DPS on blasters?
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.16 12:33:00 -
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just do the manual calculations. takes dmg figure of ammo, times by dmg mod, times by number of guns, divided by rof. then add whatever 5 hammie II's do. ignore quickfit stats.
DE
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