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Princess Trinity
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:10:00 -
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As we all know I have a history of being a scammer.
The problem is that some people just wont let it go.
No matter how hard I try to be legit I have people chasing me around in Trade channels
yelling scammer when I try and sell stuff.
Everyone's gona say I made my bed, now lay in it.
The thing is how long do I have to lay in it?
How long does it take to redeem myself. Will I always be the target of people trying
to blackmail me or harass my forums posts or in trade channels.
I just had to block someone because he wouldn't stop talking garbage about me.
Mainly what im worried about is that I don't want to be a scape goat again where everyone thinks its fun to make me a punching bag.
A lot of people are stupid and listen to anything they are told, if someone says im a scammer and a horrible person and should be treated like garbage...
they listen unconditionally without thinking with there own minds.
I am having people I never met start fights with me just because of what they heard or because they saw someone else do it.
I am not asking for completely redemption, but for people to start with me that have
never even met me ingame is just stupid.
I almost feel like people are tying to drag me back down, like they want me to mess up so they can justify how righteous they are.
Im worried there will always be 1 person in the crowd trying to stir the flame up and burn me.
For now I do my best to ignore these people and take the high road.
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Wizzkidy
Demonic Retribution Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:11:00 -
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Once a scammer always a scammer.
I think you should give me all your stuff and reprocess that char and start again and be a good boy
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity As we all know I have a history of being a scammer.
The problem is that some people just wont let it go.
No matter how hard I try to be legit I have people chasing me around in Trade channels
Maybe all the self-promotion is where the problem really lies.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity For now I do my best to ignore these people and take the high road.
All you can do sadly - also, with any kind of buying or selling you do, always explicitly state that you have a bad record and you'll use whatever safety measures the buyer wants to make sure he isn't getting scammed. ------------ Whiners - Unite! Tarminic - 26 Million SP in Forum Warfare. |
Tasuric Orka
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:15:00 -
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You can redeem yourself by helping people do things, time will not smoothe this over... you HAVE made your bed and now you are chained to it, learn to live with it.
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Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:15:00 -
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Use an alt?
Originally by: Victor Valka What the skull-chick said.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity As we all know I have a history of being a scammer.
The problem is that some people just wont let it go.
No matter how hard I try to be legit I have people chasing me around in Trade channels
yelling scammer when I try and sell stuff.
Everyone's gona say I made my bed, now lay in it.
The thing is how long do I have to lay in it?
How long does it take to redeem myself. Will I always be the target of people trying
to blackmail me or harass my forums posts or in trade channels.
I just had to block someone because he wouldn't stop talking garbage about me.
Mainly what im worried about is that I don't want to be a scape goat again where everyone thinks its fun to make me a punching bag.
A lot of people are stupid and listen to anything they are told, if someone says im a scammer and a horrible person and should be treated like garbage...
they listen unconditionally without thinking with there own minds.
I am having people I never met start fights with me just because of what they heard or because they saw someone else do it.
I am not asking for completely redemption, but for people to start with me that have
never even met me ingame is just stupid.
I almost feel like people are tying to drag me back down, like they want me to mess up so they can justify how righteous they are.
Im worried there will always be 1 person in the crowd trying to stir the flame up and burn me.
For now I do my best to ignore these people and take the high road.
lol, it's foolish to think it's ever going to go away. And even more foolish to have though you can do it without being forever labeled a scammer.
That's one of the great things about EVE, Once you make a reputation you have to live with it. ___________
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:17:00 -
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wait, did you think there wasn't any downside to getting off with scamming people?
eve is lot more like real life than you thought it was isn't it. that's like the leader of the mob trying to make an honest deal, or president bush trying to make tea for a prince. even if he suddenly figured it out, he won't be rusted.
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Dau Imperius
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:18:00 -
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Sorry mate, this is EVE. When you do someting, good or ill, it sticks with you. You've got to live with it, just like Real life.
Like me, I've got the longest 'employment history' in EVE. Something I'll always have to play with. Means people automatically think I'm un-dependable. Just means I dislike most corps in EVE. Not into PvP, and the corps that don't either eventually go that route, or get 'stale'.
Anyways, had I any foresight 4 1/2 years ago I would have not joined any corps, and stayed in my original. That's what it's about: Make the decisons in EVE with thought towards the future, not the present. You're going to be haunted by your past here; I know I am.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 16/08/2007 15:23:54
Originally by: Princess Trinity As we all know I have a history of being a scammer.
Statement : This is false. You have a history of posting annoying and rubbish threads.
Conclusion : You should recycle your account at once, or surgically remove all your fingers so you cant type anymore.
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CCP Prism X
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:35:00 -
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Cause and consequence my friend. If it makes you feel any better: I've got nothing against scammers. They promote a weird sort of economic natural selection and help people realize that the X-files had it right after all.
~ Prism X Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006. |
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Cause and consequence my friend. If it makes you feel any better: I've got nothing against scammers. They promote a weird sort of economic natural selection and help people realize that the X-files had it right after all.
This would make an excellent Sig...
As for the OP. Don't sell in channels just put it on the market and build your rep that way. That or like previously stated - do whatever the buy or seller wants to insure there are sa***aurds in place.
_____________________________________________________________ "The History of every major Galactic Civilization tends to pass through three distinct and recognizable phases, those of Survival, Inquiry and Sophistication, otherwise known as the How, Why and Where |
Ovno ConSyquence
Amarr Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ovno ConSyquence on 16/08/2007 15:40:12 I think a good start would be not advertising yourself on the forums all the time, no ones going to forgive and forget if your always there to remind them....
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:41:00 -
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You were a scammer?
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Jago Kain
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:44:00 -
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To be brutally honest, until this thread I had no idea who you were or what your history was.
Thank you for informing me of your dodgy past as a scammer; now I can avoid dealing with you should our paths happen to cross.
You chose to scam folk, it was a personal choice you made to put yourself first at other folks expense, and used sneaky tricks to do it.
Now you're upset because folk have the temerity to warn others that you are untrustworthy?
Regardless of race, political affiliation, or occupation, most folk in EVE despise scammers and will do what they can to point one out.
Man up!!! You created the situation, now deal with it.
You are making yourself a punchbag, not least by posting in here and alerting folk who were blissfully unaware of your naughtiness before you opened your mouth.
You were right about one thing though; you have made your bed. How long you have to lie in it appears to be entirely dependant on the goodwill of the EVE community.... good luck with that; I'd set your alarm clock for sometime around 2043
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Mind's Desire
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Posted - 2007.08.16 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai Use an alt?
There you go, complete redemption.
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Billy Sastard
Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai Use an alt?
QFE QFT -=^=-
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Jaabaa
Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Trinity Everyone's gona say I made my bed, now lay in it.
Yepp, even you are saying it
Originally by: Princess Trinity The thing is how long do I have to lay in it?
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Larg Kellein
Caldari GTE Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:24:00 -
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As I post every time you make this same thread: Stop drawing attention to yourself and your past with these threads and you'll have a better chance of people forgetting.
The emo level of these "Oh noes, I scammed and need everyone to forgive me so I'll tell them repeatedly that I'm a scammer" threads is through the roof.
Originally by: Roy Batty68 My software has wronged me!!! And it's immediately "sorry". Well, ok then. I suppose I'm not so upset at my software if it appologizes.
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Sereifex Daku
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:25:00 -
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Try scamming a famous scammer and then giving his isk to the little people, you may not be able to remove the taint of scamming from your soul but at least you can trick people into thinking of you as Robin Hood in space.
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Great Artista
Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Cause and consequence my friend. If it makes you feel any better: I've got nothing against scammers. They promote a weird sort of economic natural selection and help people realize that the X-files had it right after all.
POST WITH YOUR ALT FFS... _______
Space perverts and forum warriors united. [PERVS] |
Mari Onette
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:27:00 -
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Isn't having a reputation wonderful?
I suppose it's better to learn this in a game of internet spaceships then in real life.
When you scam people, you're generating negative karma, in the form of a bunch of people who are ****ed off at you. They are completely justified in doing anything in their power to make your life hell the same way you made their life hell.
If you want to sell stuff, I'd recommend making an alt because theres no way you're gonna be able to rebuild your reputation. - I am in blood! Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more, it would be as tedious as going over. -MacBeth - At 20 dollars a month, Eve costs 2 cents an hour to play. Downtime is cheap. |
ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:34:00 -
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Easy solution.
1) Roll a new character. 2) Scam people with it. 3) Post lots on the forums about how you've been scamming people - build up a reputation as a scammer 4) Start playing Princess Trinity again.
Hopefully during step 3, you'll have generated such a reputation on your alt, that everyone will have forgotten about Princess Trinity being a scammer.
Or of course, you could simply use an alt to do all your legit trading with. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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CCP PrismX
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista
Originally by: CCP Prism X Cause and consequence my friend. If it makes you feel any better: I've got nothing against scammers. They promote a weird sort of economic natural selection and help people realize that the X-files had it right after all.
POST WITH YOUR ALT FFS...
This is your 'Dev Wish' for the next 10 years by the by.
~ Prism X Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006. |
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:45:00 -
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Deal with the consequences of your actions. It's that simple. You are marked for life
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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FuQue
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:50:00 -
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To keep true to your character, I suggest you sell your character to some unsuspecting fool and roll up a new one.
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:50:00 -
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All the people that get high on social engineering allways forget there is another living breathing human being on the other end. This is your wakeup call Princess, and I hope it hurts for a while, because it is justice, and justice is never easy on the wicked.
That said, if you have given up on those old ways good on you, shows that you have matured a bit and are ready to join the civilized world, where people depend on each other. Trouble will be getting someone to open the door. It will not be me...
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Vigor Ekem
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:53:00 -
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Sell your toon to some noob and buy another one with a good rep
OR USE AN ALT
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 16/08/2007 16:54:17
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Easy solution.
1) Roll a new character.
You horrible little toad of a fantasy RPG person , we DONT roll characters here in EVE.
Go back to wow.
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Price Watcher
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Posted - 2007.08.16 16:59:00 -
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You should have thought about this before you committed your first scam. It is far too late now.
Scammers are a reproach to their ancestors. Yours are weeping.
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