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CCP Zirnitra
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.08 15:18:00 -
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As CCP Mindstar mentioned in his dev blog, we have done some minor tweaks on the ship points this time around.
We went over the ship types used in prior tournaments and some of the ships had unfortunately been used very rarely, if at all. We want to encourage people to explore new types of setups, and as a result of this we have decided to lower the points value of some of the ship types. Below is a list of the new points table, with the changes highlighted.
- Battleship, Faction - 21
- Marauder - 18 (Old value: 19)
- Battleship - 18
- Black Ops Battleship - 18
- Command Ship - 16
- Strategic Cruiser - 16
- Cruiser, Faction - 14
- Heavy Assault Cruiser - 13 (Old value: 14)
- Battlecruiser (Tier 2) - 13
- Recon Ship - 13
- Heavy Interdictor - 13
- Logistics Cruiser - 12
- Battlecruiser (Tier 1) - 10 (Old value: 11)
- Cruiser - 8 (Old value: 9)
- Bomber - 6
- Electronic Attack Frigate - 5
- Frigate, Faction - 4
- Assault Frigate - 4
- Interdictor - 3
- Interceptor - 3
- Frigate - 3
- Hauler - 3
- Destroyer - 2
Do you think the changes will cause a change in the types of ships we will see fielded, or do you think there will still be a single "bi-winning" setup? |
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Leeloo Malaquin
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.08 15:36:00 -
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CCP Zirnitra wrote:Do you think the changes will cause a change in the types of ships we will see fielded, or do you think there will still be a single "bi-winning" setup?
At least all the changes were in the right direction(except maybe Tier 1 BC should have stayed the same idk), not sure if this will increase the amount of cruisers or HAC's, though.
Destroyers should cost more than frigs and haulers, lol. AT8 they were used VERY often because they are super cheap and super effective(you can go either good dps or good ewar). Also interdictors should cost 1 point more.
HIC's are useless so they should cost 10 points instead of 13.
Make BS cost 17p instead of 18p |
Random Womble
Emo Rangers Electric Monkey Overlords
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Posted - 2011.04.08 16:04:00 -
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Leeloo Malaquin wrote:CCP Zirnitra wrote:Do you think the changes will cause a change in the types of ships we will see fielded, or do you think there will still be a single "bi-winning" setup? At least all the changes were in the right direction(except maybe Tier 1 BC should have stayed the same idk), not sure if this will increase the amount of cruisers or HAC's, though. Destroyers should cost more than frigs and haulers, lol. AT8 they were used VERY often because they are super cheap and super effective(you can go either good dps or good ewar). Also interdictors should cost 1 point more. HIC's are useless so they should cost 10 points instead of 13. Make BS cost 17p instead of 18p
I would say 10 is too low for HIC but a reduction would be good. Agree tier 1 BCs do not need a chage they did get used, destys should go up, BS going down a point i dont really see i agree that they should not be the same points as marauders but im not sure they need to be moved down so not sure what the solution is there also BOs should stay on the same points as T1 BSs. |
DHB WildCat
Flash Over. WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.04.08 16:47:00 -
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You need to raise the point value of bombers.... they have been the most prominate and damaging ship in the last three tourneys do to small point values.
Bomber set-ups to the finals again folks! |
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CCP Mindstar
C C P C C P Alliance
10
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:06:00 -
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DHB WildCat wrote:You need to raise the point value of bombers.... they have been the most prominate and damaging ship in the last three tourneys do to small point values.
Bomber set-ups to the finals again folks!
They were used pretty effectively last time, yes, but we didn't see a reason to raise them, there were certainly some viable non bomber setups used in both the semi finals and the final. |
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Alsyth
Night Warder
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:22:00 -
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Battleship, Faction - 21: Should separate Faction and Pirate battleships. Something like Faction BSs 19,5 and pirate ones 21 could be fine
- Marauder - 18 (Old value: 19)
- Battleship - 18
- Black Ops Battleship - 18: Widow should be 19 and other black ops 17 ?
- Command Ship - 16: I think Field (combat) command ship should be worth 1 point less than their strat cruiser counterpart. And Fleet command might be worth the 16 points thanks to their bonuses.
- Strategic Cruiser - 16: should be worth more imo. 17 ?
- Cruiser, Faction - 14: Separate Faction and Pirate Cruisers. Faction cruisers should NOT be worth more than a HAC. Pirate cruisers, why not.
- Heavy Assault Cruiser - 13 (Old value: 14)
- Battlecruiser (Tier 2) - 13
- Recon Ship - 13: Separate Combat/Force recon. The cloaky ones should be worth less.
- Heavy Interdictor - 13: Too much imo. Making them cheap might even make them used, could be fun!
- Logistics Cruiser - 12: Should cost a LOT more, we'll see more fight without them then. Same price as a T3 cruiser would be good imo.
- Battlecruiser (Tier 1) - 10 (Old value: 11)
Makes Brutix really cheap... Don't know if it's a good thing, the ship is almost as good as tier 2 BCs...
- Cruiser - 8 (Old value: 9)
- Bomber - 6: Where are covertops ? 7 would be good. Or limitation to 3 bombers (they are -almost- identical...) ?
- Electronic Attack Frigate - 5
- Frigate, Faction - 4: Separation between faction and pirate is needed in my opinion. Dramiel and Daredevil are so much better than any faction frig, or AS (except Freki and Utu ? ^^)...
- Assault Frigate - 4
- Interdictor - 3: Sabre cheaper than an AF?!?
- Interceptor - 3
- Frigate - 3
- Hauler - 3
- Destroyer - 2
Thrasher cheaper than a frig/hauler?!?
Quote:Do you think the changes will cause a change in the types of ships we will see fielded, or do you think there will still be a single "bi-winning" setup? Still way too much logistics, T3s and bombers. Maybe more HAS, but still no faction cruisers, frigs, and few faction BSs (only pirates ones, which are always better when people can afford them.)
The hardwiring and hi-end faction ammo thing is lame, should be forbidden in my opinion.
Only allow (non-concord) LP store seeded ammo and hardwirings!
Pashan's Turret customization Mindlink and other hardwirings of this kind, along with True Sansha, Dread Gurista or Arch Angel ammo should not be allowed. If you don't forbid these, you should authorize crystal, slave, snake etc. sets as well to be consistent (bad idea). |
Dyntheos
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:29:00 -
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i too would have expected the bomber point value to be increased by at least 1 or 2 points - the abundance of (more or less successfull, most of the time more ) bomber fleets points to the fact that with bombers you get a lot of bang for your bucks (same as with destroyers - for a mere 2 points they offer very good value, even if only as ew platforms.)
the cruiser and hac point reduction is good, as there really was little reason to field them in the last tourney. although not sure if a one point reduction will make them sufficiently attractive. |
Admiral Goberius
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.08 17:48:00 -
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how many bombers did you see in at6, where the logis were banned?
the bomber point value is fine |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.08 18:50:00 -
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As a fan, not a participant, it would be nice to see more Empire Faction ships.
Perhaps differentiate between Empire and Pirate faction hulls? |
Seldarine
Boats 'n Hoes WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.04.09 19:25:00 -
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I also would like to see a seperation of empire faction crusiers and pirate. I dont believe something such as a navy caracal should be 1 point more than a cerberus. |
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