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haq aan
Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.22 11:30:00 -
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I appreciate your personal interests. Thank u guys.
The main issue wasnt turn AFs into solo pawn mobiles tbh. Actually they wont be able to solopawn bigger than a destroyer, if the cruiser pilot knows what he s doing.
Some may not remember , but the Wolf was designed and introduced as an Arty platform. Manufacturer Corp. , Ship bonus' ,PG/cpu output and slot layout WERE supporting that design.
Wolf have never been a tackler , nor an AC ship with its 2 HOLES on her armor.Yea i flied it with ACs, but never get close to its performance with arties.
With the latest changes , CCP didnt notice, they gonna hurt Wolf with the increased cpu need on armor resist mods. They changed the ships original bonus' , while keeping (forgot?) PG/cpu output the same.
So i will never agree with the AC Wolf pilots. Wolf never had speed ,nor an extra mid to keep its enemy in place. Autocannon means a decent TANK or SPEED. Which Jaguar made for that.
Boundless Creation = Muninn , Wolf Thukker Mix = Vagabond , Jaguar Arty = %10 Optimal AC = %10 Falloff
Any reasonable player can see my point here.
PS1: I am still a supporter of 4th bonus on all AFs.
(Sorry if my spelling is bad , i am tryin my best.)
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nakKEDK
Gallente North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.09.22 16:44:00 -
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yeah i killed faction fitted ishkur (small rep and eanm) in my thorax with 1600 plate and light neutrons. i think its lame.. tho vengeance should have np problem killing cruisers..
I R teh new forum wh*re
Im fly gallente but i kinda know most setups for all ships ;)
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Zhett Haukes
Blood Corsair's The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.22 17:28:00 -
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as a fan of AFs in general, and a Minmatar pilot, I support this thread and the changes it suggests!
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Mercykiller III
Caldari Janissaries
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Posted - 2007.09.24 12:32:00 -
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bump
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.24 13:34:00 -
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What I don't get is why CCP just doesn't say anything at all, nor apparently wants to test it for rev 3. Nothing. Even when everybody seems to agree that AFs need a second look, and so do the jag and wolf...
Don't we have a community manager to see if we, the community, can get some sort of feedback on this concerns from CCP designers?
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Vasq
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.09.24 14:51:00 -
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/signed .. give the ships the bonuses they deserve
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Gripen
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.24 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: haq aan But i am also sure that most of you will remember how useful Wolf was as an Arty platform with its previous Optimal Bonus.
How can wolf be usefull with arties? Frig without scrambler is useless. AF with long range guns and without a web = death to any close range interceptor.
Originally intended: Jaguar = arties, Wolf = autocannnos. The only reason ppl use ac jaguars is the current state of game balance where in close combat fast shieldtanked ships are better than slow armortanks (vagabond vs deimos is another example).
With suggested change you are boosting ac jaguar in favor of current situation while nerfing all other usable fits on both ships.
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Ruciza
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Posted - 2007.09.24 16:54:00 -
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Beyond webber range, artillery does more damage than autocannons. Use the optimal bonus of the Jag. The Wolf can use artillery too, falloff bonus with artillery is not necessarily bad.
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