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BROODY VIPER
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Posted - 2007.08.22 15:16:00 -
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Hi guys. Im fairly new at the game after playing for 3 months then being inactive for a year up until now. I was wondering if anyone could lend me any advice on how to find the best price for my ore. I have mined Kernite, Fiery Kernite and Luminous Kernite. Kernite seems to be the most profitable of the three but i am only being offered 243ISK per unit in the system i am mining it from. Im sure ive seen better prices whilst jumping from gate to gate but the market says that this is the best price in the region. I was wondering if anyone could advise me how to sniff out the best prices in a wider spectrum of places or if anyone has any tips of certain stations/regions offering more than i have stated. Obviously if you think i am being offered optimum price for this item then that will be the end of it. Its my first time trying my hand at mining so i apologise for the long post as i am just looking for a push in the right direction. Thanks
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Verona Mal
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.08.22 20:07:00 -
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1. If you're mining ore to sell it, mine only the basic ore (not fiery or luminous) because the basic ore is the most common and nobody wants to waste a buy/sell order on uncommon ore unless they expect more profit (translates to less profit for you). 2. Use a sell order once you have a lot of ore. The more ore, the better because a trader doesn't want to stop by your hangar if you're only offering 1000m3 of ore. 3. If you don't plan on using a sell order, check Jita prices on buy orders. Jita has the lowest sell orders and the highest buy orders in the EVE universe. If you just want to dump the ore for the greatest possible amount, this is where you can do that. On the other hand, if you have to go through lots and lots of jumps to get to Jita, it may be worth your while to go back to point #2.
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BROODY VIPER
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Posted - 2007.08.22 23:25:00 -
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Thanks alot for the reply dude, appreciate it. Solid advice. Ill mine Kernite only from now on.
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Blue Dice
Gallente Nano Tech Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.23 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Verona Mal 1. If you're mining ore to sell it, mine only the basic ore (not fiery or luminous) because the basic ore is the most common and nobody wants to waste a buy/sell order on uncommon ore unless they expect more profit (translates to less profit for you). 2. Use a sell order once you have a lot of ore. The more ore, the better because a trader doesn't want to stop by your hangar if you're only offering 1000m3 of ore. 3. If you don't plan on using a sell order, check Jita prices on buy orders. Jita has the lowest sell orders and the highest buy orders in the EVE universe. If you just want to dump the ore for the greatest possible amount, this is where you can do that. On the other hand, if you have to go through lots and lots of jumps to get to Jita, it may be worth your while to go back to point #2.
To point 1: It's not allways true everywhere, so check before just going for the basic one. Usually they pay higher for the better ones, just not those 5% or 10% that the ore has more yeld. Still for mining the same amount of time you will get more usually! To point 2.: I fully agree. In adition dont let yourself intimidate by small sell orders, you can easily place your price above a certain amount of ore (What is below 100k units is not a substantial amount) if you have a bit of time to wait for a bigger manufacturer or trader to pass. To point 3.: In case you want to bring it to Jita just be warned about suicide gankers, as you havent played in a while i suggest you reading some ganking whines on the general discussion to get a hold of it (Only read the not trolling/flaming part of those threads).
4. Get the refining skills up if you find the time. You will allways get more for the ore if you can sell it refined with perfect skills. And as a lot of producers like to buy the refined ore to not bother with 3 times the amount of orders it will move over quicker.
Nano Tech Inc.
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SencneS
Amarr Balsarferskratchin Inc Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.23 13:13:00 -
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I've always considered Raw ore sales the trademark of the non-skilled miner so for a while I placed buy orders for ore that where around 75% of the value of the minerals it makes. What shocked me even more was it filled, and filled and filled again, then the guy that was filling the orders stopped. I evemailed him and asked, he said he finally got enough refining skills to refine and sell the minerals and it be a better deal then my orders.
That was until I raised it to.. 90%.
For someone like myself ore sell orders I look at, because I get absolutely 100% for the ore I refine in lots of stations across Amarr Empire. I created an excel sheet in which I could punch in the price of the Ore, the price of the minerals and it tells me if it's a worthy buy. Mind you I also consider number of jumps from my location and if it needs to be moved etc.
Here is a key to Ore to Mineral trade. Standing, any NCP corporation with a standing of 6.67 or higher, your refining and reprocessing is not TAXED. They totally wave the 5% so you instantly have an advantage over just miners. You can purchase the ORE from them at a higher rate then they can refine and sell the minerals. Just make sure you have NCP corporation that has 50% refiners in their stations. You should note this Faction standing does not effect refinery tax.
It also leads into Scrap metal processing.
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Shadarl
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Posted - 2007.08.24 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Dice 4. Get the refining skills up if you find the time. You will allways get more for the ore if you can sell it refined with perfect skills. And as a lot of producers like to buy the refined ore to not bother with 3 times the amount of orders it will move over quicker.
There are several cases were un-refined ore will sell for 2-10 times more than its actual value. At least, there used to be. I haven't bothered getting involved in that in months, but as far as I know it is still the same.
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Kitex
Caldari Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarl
Originally by: Blue Dice 4. Get the refining skills up if you find the time. You will allways get more for the ore if you can sell it refined with perfect skills. And as a lot of producers like to buy the refined ore to not bother with 3 times the amount of orders it will move over quicker.
There are several cases were un-refined ore will sell for 2-10 times more than its actual value. At least, there used to be. I haven't bothered getting involved in that in months, but as far as I know it is still the same.
This is typically only true with Scordite, Omber, and Kernite, and only in systems with storyline mission agents. The Materials for War Preparation mission calls for large quantities of these ores, and since no one is going to dock their Raven to go mine Kernite 20 jumps from Caldari space, those willing to handle the logistics of moving it to mission hubs can make a tidy profit.
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Pohs Trams
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:29:00 -
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With the upcomming nerf to mineral compression, I'd expect the demand for trit to slacken somewhat and the demand for all 3 types of veldspar to go up considerably. The trit has to get to 0.0 somehow, and it appears freighter loads of veld getting compressed by rorquals in lowsec might be one of the better options.
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Falbala
Gallente Les Enfants de Gaia
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Posted - 2007.09.03 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS any NCP corporation with a standing of 6.67 or higher, your refining and reprocessing is not TAXED. They totally wave the 5% so you instantly have an advantage over just miners.
Exactly. This is why a sell order wouldn't always work, if there is no convient refining station around. I agree with the other things you said.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:08:00 -
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sell kernite in a level 4 storyline station
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