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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.08.24 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Yipsilanti I have moved this trhead from General Discussion to Features & Ideas where it is more at home.
-Yipsi
lol:P
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor."
-Albert Einstein
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THEGREAT LOBO
Trouble Every Day
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Posted - 2007.08.24 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis
Originally by: Malicious Wraith
Originally by: Stitcher CCP: Some of us like local the way it is. Please leave it alone.,
Under the current system it is possible to never get killed, ever, if you follow a few guidelines.
This needs to be changed, and local is where it needs to start.
Will you cry for scanners to be nerfed next?
Local might tell me people are in my system. Scanner tells me when to gtfo of my current location.
Don't joke about the scanners, after local has been nerfed people will just do what they are doing with local.
Make multiple threads about it with differant alts untill ccp thinks that what all the people want out of the game...
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.08.24 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: THEGREAT LOBO
Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis
Originally by: Malicious Wraith
Originally by: Stitcher CCP: Some of us like local the way it is. Please leave it alone.,
Under the current system it is possible to never get killed, ever, if you follow a few guidelines.
This needs to be changed, and local is where it needs to start.
Will you cry for scanners to be nerfed next?
Local might tell me people are in my system. Scanner tells me when to gtfo of my current location.
Don't joke about the scanners, after local has been nerfed people will just do what they are doing with local.
Make multiple threads about it with differant alts untill ccp thinks that what all the people want out of the game...
Do you wake up in the night to check the front door is locked multiple times? Alt's can post against idea too you know. Don't be so tinfoiley.
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor."
-Albert Einstein
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: THEGREAT LOBO Whats wrong with local ? It is a damn handy tool to see if its worth warping around to see what i pick up on scan, without it i would be wasting a lot time warping to dif scan spots around the whole system looking for someone to kill in an empty system.
Its also nice to be able to see who is in local, what kinda people i would be dealing with in a fight.
Even just chatting to people in local is nice to do.
What the hell is out of hand from that ? Why does it need changing ?
A rare breed of solo pirate enters a system looking for a target
Target sees a non blue + show up in local
Target warps to a safe and cloaks
Solo pirate is reduced to gate camping as local doesn't work across multiple systems
People continue to whine about gate camping
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Devren
Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 05:24:00 -
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I don't have an issue with Local but I do have one possible solution...
You cloak and you drop out of Local. In addition to this, any of the following could also happen:
- You can chat in local but your portrait is not displayed in the right-hand side, and you are not counted in the "in channel count"
- You cannot chat in Local channel at all as the cloak interferes with ship systems (same as modules can't be used)
- You can't use ANY channel as the cloak interferes with ship systems (same as modules can't be used)
I personally think that cloaking a ship would be the only justifiable way to remove someone from the Local channel. It is not broken as is, as both sides (in war decs AND also carebears vs pirates) can use it to their advantage. If you remove the display of people from local, then there will be an increase of gate camping as pirates will not be bothered warping from belt to belt to find a carebear, and carebears will have it too easy to mine.
Cheers
Devren
"May the Great Goddess guide you swiftly through the Universe."
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Devren I don't have an issue with Local but I do have one possible solution...
You cloak and you drop out of Local. In addition to this, any of the following could also happen:
- You can chat in local but your portrait is not displayed in the right-hand side, and you are not counted in the "in channel count"
- You cannot chat in Local channel at all as the cloak interferes with ship systems (same as modules can't be used)
- You can't use ANY channel as the cloak interferes with ship systems (same as modules can't be used)
I personally think that cloaking a ship would be the only justifiable way to remove someone from the Local channel. It is not broken as is, as both sides (in war decs AND also carebears vs pirates) can use it to their advantage. If you remove the display of people from local, then there will be an increase of gate camping as pirates will not be bothered warping from belt to belt to find a carebear, and carebears will have it too easy to mine.
Cheers
Devren
The cloak doesnt interfere with teamspeak
Constellation channel, scrap local easy.
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor."
-Albert Einstein
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THEGREAT LOBO
Trouble Every Day
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Posted - 2007.08.24 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: THEGREAT LOBO on 24/08/2007 14:39:32
Originally by: Captian Internet
Originally by: THEGREAT LOBO Whats wrong with local ? It is a damn handy tool to see if its worth warping around to see what i pick up on scan, without it i would be wasting a lot time warping to dif scan spots around the whole system looking for someone to kill in an empty system.
Its also nice to be able to see who is in local, what kinda people i would be dealing with in a fight.
Even just chatting to people in local is nice to do.
What the hell is out of hand from that ? Why does it need changing ?
A rare breed of solo pirate enters a system looking for a target
Target sees a non blue + show up in local
Target warps to a safe and cloaks
Solo pirate is reduced to gate camping as local doesn't work across multiple systems
People continue to whine about gate camping
very true, Being a solo pirate is hard already, with out having to warp around in empty systems, Constellation channel is not going to help this at all, that would just make it worse. you say there is "only" 9-10 systems in a Constellation, but take into consideration the size of some of these systems some at 100+ au big with belts spread out all over it, warping around these systems checking scan spots takes a long time. now add to that the fact that it could just be empty. Thats a damn big waste of time.
I really would like to know the amount of people that are happy with the way local is, you don't know about them because nobody post's a "CCP KEEP LOCAL AS IT IS" thread.
We only ever here from the people who want stuff changed.
Eve continues like this, and keeps finding ways to make the game more annoying, i would have to consider finding a differant game to play. But i would hate to do that, since this is one of the best games i have ever played
Sorry for the whining, but i want to try and get my point across and am just annoyed at the way everyone wants everything in this game nerfed --------------------------------------------- "Trouble Every Day" |
Zimjin
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zimjin on 24/08/2007 18:06:16
Originally by: Captian Internet A rare breed of solo pirate enters a system looking for a target
Target sees a non blue + show up in local
Target warps to a safe and cloaks
This part would be interesting if local showed numbers but not names.
As a potential victim, you see the sector count go up by 2 but you don't know who it is. Now you have a decision to make: stay here and mine in the hopes that they won't bother you, or run and hide and risk wasting your time as it was just 2 peaceful miners passing through.
That's a good decision to have to make. With enough pirates roaming the asteroids, miners will eventually be forced to simply hire escorts and fight it out because they'll be spending too much time running away and hiding from ghosts otherwise.
Quote: Solo pirate is reduced to gate camping as local doesn't work across multiple systems
People continue to whine about gate camping
Gate camps are a serious problem for this game. In my opinion, it's the #1 barrier to growing the population. As a new player and a hopeful PvPer, nothing has turned me off more than gatecamps. They look incredibly boring to conduct and they're nothing but useless frustration to encounter. Asteroid belt ganks at least leave me with a feeling that I had a chance. Gatecamps leave no chance.
Fix gatecamping.
Remove names from local but keep pop counts.
Watch as piracy and gameplay flourishes.
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mlyp
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Posted - 2007.08.24 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Malicious Wraith It has been out of hand for quite some time.
Much like your posting.
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