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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:31:00 -
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Nota Bene: I know this topic comes up frequently. I am interested in hearing considered opinions on why people make the choices that they do in EVE.
Knee jerks - jerk off somewhere else please. (2)
Even in that video, they talk about it, "... they have come to trust you. Now it is time to make a choice; you can keep building power or you can take your revenge ..."
There was much wasted life, people were killed, villages put to the torch, women and children weren't spared. However, gradually, people started talking about honour, great deeds, respect and valiant fighting. Armies started drawing up into formations and facing each other instead of burning everything down in the night. They fought with their lives. -> So, why then - when we have so much freedom, when we have nothing real to lose, do so many of us chose to be cowardly, outnumber, destroy, rob, leech off others as pirate parasites and just be as underhanded as possible?
Chat Extract wrote:"Yeah, children like games they can cheat at, while adults want something challenging and even handed " "Not true. Mature people want something challenging or even handed. A lot of people just want to escape the rigours of real life and act immaturely. After all 'win at any cost' is immature, as is being over competitive." "It is not winning if you have to change who you are." "Indeed, it's why it's immature."
I chose to fight in small gangs or fleets and try to fight against the same.
What have you chosen and why? Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:34:00 -
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I choose forum warrior I don't always like to modify my sell order but when I do, I like to spin my mouse wheel |
Written Word
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:38:00 -
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I am here for the Ponies
Maybe for a jerk off too |
Anderron Shi
Orb-Disc Industries Ltd New Eden's Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:01:00 -
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I like bread. |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:10:00 -
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I chose to l login and post here while on the potty.
My reasons are my own.
Must wipe shortly, time to print out some COAD herf and blerf ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:11:00 -
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Anderron Shi wrote:I like bread.
White or brown bread? What did you choose and why? |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
213
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:13:00 -
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I will choose freewill!
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:31:00 -
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I've chosen not to take this game at all seriously and to laugh at and upset those who do take it too seriously. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:36:00 -
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Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic, thank you. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Brock Nelson
269
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:38:00 -
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I do it because my wallet isn't fat enough I don't always like to modify my sell order but when I do, I like to spin my mouse wheel |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
429
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:49:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:... and upset those ...
What does your griefing accomplish? Why do you feel this need to target a group of people? Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
138
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Posted - 2012.01.16 01:00:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:What does your griefing accomplish? Why do you feel this need to target a group of people? Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.01.16 01:06:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game
Interesting viewpoint, so I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you are serious. Not all accomplishments in various spheres of life are treated equally. Completing a tricky piece of analysis and helping a customer, while an accomplishment is one thing. Doing volunteer work in Africa and helping underdeveloped nations progress is another. Is one any less of an accomplishment than the other because they are accomplished in different areas?
Well, yes they are. Does that mean the other one does not have any meaning?
Within the context of playing a video game for entertainment, how is an accomplishment here any different to playing a good round of golf and feeling proud of your accomplishment there? It is a different skillset, but just something somebody did that made them proud and happy.
Why seek to diminish that through the old "internet spaceship game" throwaway?
Edit: @Jenshae, still thinking about this. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2012.01.16 01:07:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game
"What does your griefing satisfy?" "What compels you to behave this way instead of doing something else?" Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.16 01:34:00 -
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It seems to me that she was ganked or her corp got heisted at one point and she's...I dunno. This is the weirdest thread i've come aross. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
430
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Posted - 2012.01.16 02:08:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:It seems to me that she was ganked or her corp got heisted at one point and she's...I dunno. This is the weirdest thread i've come aross.
I was ganked once, maybe twice. Not sure. I was in an Iteron, came into a worm hole and a thrasher was waiting on the other side. I waited a bit, then moved toward the exit and tried to jump out again. Had a change session error but managed to save my pod. Ship was empty and I didn't care enough to even petition it. ` Actually, it is the reverse. I am seeing quite a few people I know going out and ganking. Personally, shooting something that can't shoot back or waiting at a gate is so similar to mining that I would rather do that. ` I wanted to see other peoples' reasons and hear about their play styles. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.16 03:18:00 -
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Though I do a number of things in EVE, what I like most is sneaking into "dangerous" places and doing whatever without getting killed. Doesn't particularly matter how profitable it is isk-wise, though it's more fun when you make it back home with a cargohold full of treasure.
Not sure I could even say why I like to play this game the way I do. I simply enjoy exploring. The other things I do in EVE, I do out of boredom when I don't have a decent amount of time for an extended journey - and to keep myself in isk in case I get my ship blown up. I certainly couldn't say what motivates the more aggressive, pvp-minded folk in this game.
Maybe they have a crappy job or a nagging wife and want to take out their frustrations in a safe environment? Maybe they just take pride in watching their kill board get bigger? I don't know, but without them this game would be really really boring.
All the gankers, pies, disgruntled locals, and pvp-addicts in this game make it fun, and are much more interesting and challenging than AI controlled monsters. I don't play like they do and I don't really understand them, but I'm glad they are around. :) |
mkint
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Posted - 2012.01.16 03:19:00 -
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tee ell dee arr |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2012.01.16 03:21:00 -
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My mission is to do my best to Kill RMT leeches in EVE.
PL is actually looking like my gateway. They don't want it, they just enjoy taking it from people who don't have the passion to hold it.
Pandemic Legion fanboi in the making here |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
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Posted - 2012.01.16 03:23:00 -
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I do it to get blocked on the forums.
Don't ask, something about calling her the champion of the debate team and a disappointed turtle. It offended her apparently delicate sensibilities, and now I can say whatever I want in her threads without her seeing it!!!
P.S. someone feel free to quote this for me mwhahahah!!!! Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
139
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Posted - 2012.01.16 04:51:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Jafit McJafitson wrote:Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game "What does your griefing satisfy?" "What compels you to behave this way instead of doing something else?"
Schadenfreude mostly. Pleasure in the misfortune of others. Delicious drama, ridiculous loss-mails, great salty pubbie tears, spergy rants and rage. It's all good fun.
If you can't laugh at this terrible game I don't know how you're supposed to get any enjoyment out of it. It is so terrible. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
333
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Posted - 2012.01.16 05:07:00 -
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To crush your enemies , see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women! |
Dessau
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Posted - 2012.01.16 07:02:00 -
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I chose to log in only to set my skill queue for the first 6M SP. Since I knew no one who played EVE, I then chose to grind standings while I slowly built up a bankroll. Then I chose to stop paying when the game was headed in a direction in which I had no interest. After a few months, things changed, and I chose to return and roam nullsec in cheapfit frigates looking for 1v1s.
I still have no comrades in game, so this sort of solo vagabondery is how I choose to play. I view it as no more or less valid a use of CCPs product than any other: RP, griefing, Sovspace Blobbin', forum warrioring, material acquisition [both mining and piracy], hell if CCP doesn't care about RMT then I guess that counts, too. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2012.01.16 12:54:00 -
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Dessau wrote:...I still have no comrades in game, so ... Most corporations and alliances want more players, especially experienced ones with skill points. You can just find out about some then talk to the recruiter / diplomat and join.
Hainnz wrote:Though I do a number of things ...
Good post. Yeah, would be less interesting if there was no one to feel contempt toward or villainize. However, it is interesting to still see their individual differences, reason and such. It is a vast spectrum of choices in this game.
Example, "Yeah, I gate camp but only to protect our area." "I only shoot reds that come to us, I never go out looking for a fight or camping a system that we don't own."
Little idiosyncrasies, quirks and perspectives. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Jenshae Chiroptera
430
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Posted - 2012.01.16 13:06:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:why does this subject come and go every six months or so?
Why do people keep discussing religion, politics, celebrities, sports, beauty care and cars? Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Karl Planck
Heretic University Heretic Nation
107
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Posted - 2012.01.16 13:19:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Karl Planck wrote:why does this subject come and go every six months or so? Why do people keep discussing religion, politics, celebrities, sports, beauty care and cars?
you misunderstand me. This specific topic comes up, is thoroughly discussed then rediscussed by the same people as if starting from scratch. Its not like anything has changed in the game that is going to change the responses that will follow in this thread.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
430
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Posted - 2012.01.16 13:37:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:... Its not like anything has changed in the game that is going to change the responses that will follow in this thread. I have changed. My ideas and opinions are constantly evolving. Also, I was not satisfied with the last thread like this. It was "missing something."
Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Jorn Isu
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
18
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Posted - 2012.01.16 14:34:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:The way I play is right. The way you play is wrong. Why are you so wrong? Simplified your OP.
edit: you disagree? Do you actually believe this ****?
Quote:"Yeah, children like games they can cheat at, while adults want something challenging and even handed " "Not true. Mature people want something challenging or even handed. A lot of people just want to escape the rigours of real life and act immaturely. After all 'win at any cost' is immature, as is being over competitive." "It is not winning if you have to change who you are." "Indeed, it's why it's immature." Among other things, I take the gravest objection to your use of the word "Cheat". Unless we're referring to RMTers, Botters, and exploiters (defined as people who make use of exploits that have been specifically announced by CCP as exploits), I can think of very few cheaters in EVE.
I also object to your description of people who view the game differently as children or immature. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
431
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Posted - 2012.01.16 15:30:00 -
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Jorn Isu wrote:... I take the gravest objection to your use of the word "Cheat". ...
Easier than saying all the things that fall under it, bait canning, fraud, ninja looting, infiltration, et cetera. As for "immature" and childish, there is no denying that there are many puerile people in EVE, teens and adults. People who spend a lot of time online, self included, are usually not the most balanced, well adjusted and social of people. My opinion stands. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Karl Planck
Heretic University Heretic Nation
107
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Posted - 2012.01.16 15:42:00 -
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this thread is brimmed full of troll bait.
let the flaming commence! |
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