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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.28 16:10:00 -
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anyone about to run some business with either copies of the bpo sells of the ship or renting your valuable time and abilities flying the rorqual as part of someones gang? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
Hanoi Hana
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Posted - 2007.08.28 16:12:00 -
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People are already selling them in Jita marked up hundreds of millions of ISK.
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Orion Phoenix
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.08.28 16:35:00 -
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Copies are unlikely as it takes about 15 weeks to make a copy
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.28 17:07:00 -
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The research times are stupid.
Dont even bother reselling the BPO's. Hardly worth it.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.28 17:09:00 -
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ah yes i forgot it takes no research the copy time is out of the question so there still remains the reselling of the bpo the manufacturing of the ship and the actual use of the ship ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
Marcus Tedric
Gallente Tedric Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira ah yes i forgot it takes no research the copy time is out of the question so there still remains the reselling of the bpo the manufacturing of the ship and the actual use of the ship
No - it's the Ore Compression BPOs that won't research (waste is zero already).
As to your question - yes, I might give it a go - Buying BPO when price reduces (and I have 3b spare) - researching to ME2 and then copying - but we'll see
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.29 06:30:00 -
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hummm... ME and copying is worse than with a mom but ME1 still makes quite a difference... hummmm...
i can see a demand for that lil bugger though, even if only for empire-transportation. it may only jump 5ly (+skill) but there'll be twice as much cargo squeezed into that ship bay.
humm but as a service...... if it wouldn't be such a great empire-jumper, yes. but people will buy it just for that purpose already and the compression itself will merely be a bonus. iow not "rare" enough and your remaining target group is lil' 5-man-corps. - WTS Rorqual BPO |
Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider hummm... ME and copying is worse than with a mom but ME1 still makes quite a difference... hummmm...
i can see a demand for that lil bugger though, even if only for empire-transportation. it may only jump 5ly (+skill) but there'll be twice as much cargo squeezed into that ship bay.
humm but as a service...... if it wouldn't be such a great empire-jumper, yes. but people will buy it just for that purpose already and the compression itself will merely be a bonus. iow not "rare" enough and your remaining target group is lil' 5-man-corps.
The Roq is the only sub supercap that can haul a battleship (in the Roq's case packaged in a bay).
Dal
Originally by: Seleene It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Riley Craven
Caldari Copacetic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.29 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Roemy Schneider hummm... ME and copying is worse than with a mom but ME1 still makes quite a difference... hummmm...
i can see a demand for that lil bugger though, even if only for empire-transportation. it may only jump 5ly (+skill) but there'll be twice as much cargo squeezed into that ship bay.
humm but as a service...... if it wouldn't be such a great empire-jumper, yes. but people will buy it just for that purpose already and the compression itself will merely be a bonus. iow not "rare" enough and your remaining target group is lil' 5-man-corps.
The Roq is the only sub supercap that can haul a battleship (in the Roq's case packaged in a bay).
Dal
Incorrect, the Roq can only haul industrails and barges.
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Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Roemy Schneider hummm... ME and copying is worse than with a mom but ME1 still makes quite a difference... hummmm...
i can see a demand for that lil bugger though, even if only for empire-transportation. it may only jump 5ly (+skill) but there'll be twice as much cargo squeezed into that ship bay.
humm but as a service...... if it wouldn't be such a great empire-jumper, yes. but people will buy it just for that purpose already and the compression itself will merely be a bonus. iow not "rare" enough and your remaining target group is lil' 5-man-corps.
The Roq is the only sub supercap that can haul a battleship (in the Roq's case packaged in a bay).
Dal
Incorrect, the Roq can only haul industrails and barges.
Actually, it is you that are wrong. The Rorq has a cargo hold of 20,000 m/3 *127.5%^3 = 41,453 (three low slots) a mega is 50,000m3 repackaged so 3 T2 Expanded Cargoholds + Rigs and the thing can haul a tier 2 BS in cargo no propblem. If I'm remembering correctly a Teir 1 BS is only 40K repackaged so you don't even need the rigs on it but I don't have the game open in front of me right now.
Dal
Originally by: Seleene It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Praetoria
Gallente ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira anyone about to run some business with either copies of the bpo sells of the ship or renting your valuable time and abilities flying the rorqual as part of someones gang?
Hello,
About running a business on blueprint copies : it should be considered that, after getting a blueprint copy, the customer has to buy the components on the market and transport them (almost 2.5 M m3) in one single place, and after getting the components the customer has to get the job launched by an industrial with the skill Capital Ship Construction level 4 (rank 14). Won't this customer prefer to buy the ship already built and fitted and so avoid several margin calculation from different supplier ?
For that ICE Is Coming to EVE is assembling the very first Rorqual which will be ready on September 8th and can be acquired here (packaged with fitting) : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584695
:)
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:38:00 -
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very nice praetoria
i hope you get the best price on that auction ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.30 04:56:00 -
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well... BS are all 50k m¦ which could be done previously with a revelation (amarr dread) on 8 expander II ^^ same jump range, too - WTS Rorqual BPO |
Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Roemy Schneider hummm... ME and copying is worse than with a mom but ME1 still makes quite a difference... hummmm...
i can see a demand for that lil bugger though, even if only for empire-transportation. it may only jump 5ly (+skill) but there'll be twice as much cargo squeezed into that ship bay.
humm but as a service...... if it wouldn't be such a great empire-jumper, yes. but people will buy it just for that purpose already and the compression itself will merely be a bonus. iow not "rare" enough and your remaining target group is lil' 5-man-corps.
The Roq is the only sub supercap that can haul a battleship (in the Roq's case packaged in a bay).
Dal
Incorrect, the Roq can only haul industrails and barges.
Actually, it is you that are wrong. The Rorq has a cargo hold of 20,000 m/3 *127.5%^3 = 41,453 (three low slots) a mega is 50,000m3 repackaged so 3 T2 Expanded Cargoholds + Rigs and the thing can haul a tier 2 BS in cargo no propblem. If I'm remembering correctly a Teir 1 BS is only 40K repackaged so you don't even need the rigs on it but I don't have the game open in front of me right now.
Dal
You are wrong.
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Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.08.30 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Dont even bother reselling the BPO's. Hardly worth it.
Riiiiiiight _______________
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Shizuka Muto
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax Actually, it is you that are wrong. The Rorq has a cargo hold of 20,000 m/3 *127.5%^3 = 41,453 (three low slots) a mega is 50,000m3 repackaged so 3 T2 Expanded Cargoholds + Rigs and the thing can haul a tier 2 BS in cargo no propblem. If I'm remembering correctly a Teir 1 BS is only 40K repackaged so you don't even need the rigs on it but I don't have the game open in front of me right now.
while your math may be correct, I think it was stated somewhere by a dev that the Rorqual can only store industrial ships and barges by definition
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Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro
Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: Dal Thrax
Originally by: Roemy Schneider hummm... ME and copying is worse than with a mom but ME1 still makes quite a difference... hummmm...
i can see a demand for that lil bugger though, even if only for empire-transportation. it may only jump 5ly (+skill) but there'll be twice as much cargo squeezed into that ship bay.
humm but as a service...... if it wouldn't be such a great empire-jumper, yes. but people will buy it just for that purpose already and the compression itself will merely be a bonus. iow not "rare" enough and your remaining target group is lil' 5-man-corps.
The Roq is the only sub supercap that can haul a battleship (in the Roq's case packaged in a bay).
Dal
Incorrect, the Roq can only haul industrails and barges.
Actually, it is you that are wrong. The Rorq has a cargo hold of 20,000 m/3 *127.5%^3 = 41,453 (three low slots) a mega is 50,000m3 repackaged so 3 T2 Expanded Cargoholds + Rigs and the thing can haul a tier 2 BS in cargo no propblem. If I'm remembering correctly a Teir 1 BS is only 40K repackaged so you don't even need the rigs on it but I don't have the game open in front of me right now.
Dal
You are wrong.
On size or being able to load with 3 Cargo Expanders + rigs?
Dal
Originally by: Seleene It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.30 18:56:00 -
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Anyone who says that there will be no market in buying these and reselling them for a profit after getting ME1/2 is flat out trying to limit their competition. There is obviously going to be a very large market for this kind of service. Buying a few of these and using them for copies/research&resale/etc is a very sound investment. There is absolutely no way you'll lose money... you just may not make a very high rate, it all depends on how things go. But it's an ultra safe investment. The only question is if you can make a higher rate of return on each 3 billion investment and research/copy slot. I personally can make more, but if someone is going to be barely playing the game for a few months they could make a good 5-10% on this very safely I'd bet.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.08.30 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 30/08/2007 19:43:24
Originally by: Dal Thrax The Roq is the only sub supercap that can haul a battleship (in the Roq's case packaged in a bay). Dal
My Moros had no problem hauling repackaged battleships. I say "had" because I stopped using to for cargo-hauling and switched the cargo rigs for proper rigs for combat but it easily got over 50k m3 without cans.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.08.30 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle Anyone who says that there will be no market in buying these and reselling them for a profit after getting ME1/2 is flat out trying to limit their competition. There is obviously going to be a very large market for this kind of service. Buying a few of these and using them for copies/research&resale/etc is a very sound investment. There is absolutely no way you'll lose money... you just may not make a very high rate, it all depends on how things go. But it's an ultra safe investment. The only question is if you can make a higher rate of return on each 3 billion investment and research/copy slot. I personally can make more, but if someone is going to be barely playing the game for a few months they could make a good 5-10% on this very safely I'd bet.
qft i acquired some, resold a few and the rest has gone to the labs. however, in ~80d we'll see the same ugly undercutting with ME1 again =( some have started research right away, flabbergasted resellers (like me) start the labs now.
but yeah... one way or the other, it's still an NPC price; it doesn't rot - WTS Rorqual BPO |
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:07:00 -
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i cant wait to see the fraps of the first rorqual to die placing bets that itll be the first one to be made too probably the same day it is bought ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
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