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Sundisco
Minmatar Karnage Club THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:00:00 -
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Which of these 4 Assault Ships is best for pvp as I only want to train one Frigate 5 skill,
Wolf Jaguar Ishkur Enyo
I would want to use it for small gangs and some solo. --- Recruitment Thread
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:07:00 -
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Could give several answers really... AF's are not very good for pvp vs larger ship classes, people will try to tell you that they wtfpwn cruisers all day long but they probably dont. You would have to be ********/noob to die to an AF in a cruiser.
Which means your looking at smaller ships as your bread and butter kills. Jag is the fastest, so it has the best chance of catching them. Hence it is my personal choice if I decide to fly AF.
Also the wolf with arty is good for the lols.
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roger beefcurtains
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: roger beefcurtains on 28/08/2007 19:13:27 for small gangs and solo i would go for the ishkur. if you have good drone skills, its worth taking a look :) |
Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Hrin on 28/08/2007 19:34:42 Stabber, thorax, arbitrator, Rupture, caracal, vexor in no particular order.
If you're training frig 5, get an interceptor. Any interceptor will do, but the crusader, crow, and taranis are the classic solo ones. The malediction looks to be good now. People claim the claw is nice, but they lie (it needs a 3rd mid). The stiletto is awesome in gangs.
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Meleia
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:29:00 -
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If in any doubt; Go Gallente or Minmatar.
... EVE easy mode, you know...
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Lithel
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:34:00 -
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I've had some great experiences taking on cruisers with AF's. I love engaging ships twice as big as me. It's an adrenaline rush. Anyway, I've just flown the Amarr ones, and the Retribution is great for just gangs. I has quite a bit of dps but only 1 mid slot. The Vengeance is better for solo. More mid slots, but not as much dps. But, now that the patch is deployed that might have changed. Not sure about that. They are fun though. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Yaro
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:15:00 -
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use a cruiser...almost any decent pvp fit cruiser would kill an af...
get a thorax, or rupture...
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Samuel Freedom
Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Meleia If in any doubt; Go Gallente or Minmatar.
... EVE easy mode, you know...
I would recommened a Jaguar as it is fast and quite fun to fly, but you may have to invest a fair bit of time skill wise to get the fit you want/need, and pratice. Flying an AF (Minmatar anyway)is more about the fun really as you could invest the time elsewhere and be more effective.
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Arkios Odymei
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 22:01:00 -
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/me votes none of the above.
Go for a Blarpy!
But out of the choices given, Id go with a minmatar AF.
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Locus Bey
Gallente Qalandar
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Posted - 2007.08.28 22:26:00 -
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Ishkur is a mean little ship. With good drone skills and neutrons it will bbq any other af stupid enough to get in range.
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente Condottieri Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.28 23:08:00 -
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Between the Jag/Wolf, For solo work the Jag is better (has more mid slots, so you can Scram and web).
OF course, I've lost 2 jags and 0 wolfs, so take it with a grian of salt :)
CEO, Condottieri Industries
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Turix
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.28 23:29:00 -
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Wolf is one of the best ships in the game for solo work, and rivals/tops the DPS totals for assault Ships. (With viable fits, Gank enyos are good in theory but die to fast to be viable)
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Maeltstome
Minmatar Caldari Navy Raiders Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hrin Edited by: Hrin on 28/08/2007 19:34:42 Stabber, thorax, arbitrator, Rupture, caracal, vexor in no particular order.
If you're training frig 5, get an interceptor. Any interceptor will do, but the crusader, crow, and taranis are the classic solo ones. The malediction looks to be good now. People claim the claw is nice, but they lie (it needs a 3rd mid). The stiletto is awesome in gangs.
obviously never came up against a claw then have we - claw = dead taranis 90% of the time - but its terrible for tackling yes.
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Maeltstome
Minmatar Caldari Navy Raiders Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Turix Wolf is one of the best ships in the game for solo work, and rivals/tops the DPS totals for assault Ships. (With viable fits, Gank enyos are good in theory but die to fast to be viable)
Wolf is a good ship yes, but its DPS cant top the ishkur - drones alone do about 80% of the wolfs (with my skills). Its survivability with a 400plate though is what makes it preferable to an ishkur for cruiser killer.
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Octaviun
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 12:09:00 -
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Ishkur, it can field warrior II's intys will think twice ( so do most dictors expect a sabre ) Ishkur can either stay at range with rails or be a blaster setup and compliment its lightdrone bay.
Jaguar is also good if your starting to lean towards a Vagabond you'll get the feel with that ship and a interceptor.
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Redora
Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.02 13:24:00 -
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With my skills, Enyo/Taranis > IShkur from DPS point of view. I've not tried the Jag/Wolf yet, as I don't have MInnie frig 5 or T2 Projectiles yet, but I'm slowly working my way towards that in preparation for a Vaga. :D For now, I'd say Enyo. ---
Redora
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Caldorous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.02 14:11:00 -
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With proper skills and some nice expensive drones, the ishkur should dish out the most dps, the problem is that your guns (drones) can be destroyed -----------------------------
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Redora With my skills, Enyo/Taranis > IShkur from DPS point of view. I've not tried the Jag/Wolf yet, as I don't have MInnie frig 5 or T2 Projectiles yet, but I'm slowly working my way towards that in preparation for a Vaga. :D For now, I'd say Enyo.
A Gank Ishkur out damages a Gank Enyo. Also enjoy flying the honda civic of eve
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:56:00 -
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The Enyo can only be ever useful in a gang. Tons of mass + no speed + small blaster range =
I personally fly a Jag relatively often (well, OK, not now, I'm out of Jags and am having problems shipping one to low-sec atm), and it's a nice ship. Especially for catching / killing small ships and getting away from larger.
Ishkurs are veery nasty against any other AF. Wolfs can be good as well. However, if you want to do any more serious business (like, attacking cruisers), get a cruiser.
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Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sundisco Which of these 4 Assault Ships is best for pvp as I only want to train one Frigate 5 skill,
Wolf Jaguar Ishkur Enyo
I would want to use it for small gangs and some solo.
All or none of the above depending on the situation. There is no "best" ship in Eve.
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Acinonyx Jubatus
Minmatar Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:04:00 -
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Well, it depends on your role you want...
Enyo has good versatility, can go snipe, standard, or close and pull each role fairly well.
Ishkur is awesome for drone support from a frig
Jaguar is the fastest of the 4 and can have a fairly nice shield hp buffer
Wolf is sorta like the enyo only it lacks cap use at a trade off of worse tank for its weapons... and arty wolf is great for annihilating pods and picking off drones.
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People Eater
Gun Metal Priests The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:28:00 -
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The Jaguar is my favorite by far, but then again I only use it for solo'ing caldari missile boats such as the caracal/drakes/ravens. Err... well at least holding them in place for 15 minutes while your corpmates take their time coming to help kill it.
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lyrenna
Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:39:00 -
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blarpy or wolf/jag
af's are nice for firepower addition to small/mid roaming gangs.
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Madla Mafia
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:50:00 -
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Mine is best. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tamayo
Amarr The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:43:00 -
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Vengeance !!
"Khanid mkII is the new Jesus" *
* credit for this quote belongs to someone else...but I can't remember who...
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Dalanoria
Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tamayo Vengeance !!
"Khanid mkII is the new Jesus" *
* credit for this quote belongs to someone else...but I can't remember who...
hehe, i like a good joke now and then too...
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Tamayo
Amarr The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:55:00 -
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Insomnium
Minmatar the united
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Posted - 2007.09.03 03:08:00 -
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if you're going to train friggy 5 anyways you can fly both jaguar/wolf, or ishkur/enyo. derrr so the question should be more minmatar or gallente... i'd say go minmatar but that's just me ------------------------------------ If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward |
Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.09.03 03:43:00 -
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Of the four listed there, I'd vote Ishkur and then Jag.
However, I have defeated all of the four listed rather easily in the new Vengeance, and will take said ship any day of the year. ----------------
Originally by: "Cyberus" cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
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My Auctioneer
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: hilaw Nothing quite like throwing out 4 medium drones from a frigate, or controlling 5 heavies, and it rips frigates apart with light drones, ishkur is a micro domnix, whats not to like?
Exploit part is in bold.
Oh and whats not to like? The fact that any Vexor, Thorax, hell just about any Cruiser will eat you for lunch.
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