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Suzu Fujibayashi
Happy Dudes
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Posted - 2012.01.17 10:20:00 -
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Ever noticed that low-sec belts are pretty much devoid of any people. I visit them while roaming and to bolster my sec-status. I'm also hoping that someone may try to kill me there. But nothing happens. Even in Amamake you can happily kill BS rats (if it's not the top belt).
So low-sec dweller don't be so lazy and get off the gates/stations! |
Karl Planck
Heretic University Heretic Nation
109
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Posted - 2012.01.17 11:32:00 -
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Suzu Fujibayashi wrote:Ever noticed that low-sec belts are pretty much devoid of any people. I visit them while roaming and to bolster my sec-status. I'm also hoping that someone may try to kill me there. But nothing happens. Even in Amamake you can happily kill BS rats (if it's not the top belt).
So low-sec dweller don't be so lazy and get off the gates/stations!
yes i have and i'd like to keep it that way, gives me something to do while my gcc cools
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Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
32
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Posted - 2012.01.17 14:31:00 -
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It's a manifestation of the general problem with lowsec. There's no reason to rat in lowsec when, with a tiny bit of effort to get into a suitable corp, you go to null and rat in better belts and be interrupted much less often (or chain-run sanctums, if a highly upgraded system is available to you). My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Cardval Simalia
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:48:00 -
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Low sec needs dedicated content not avalible in high or null sec. Make PI or booster production a low only activity. At elast give it something. |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
12
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:49:00 -
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Cardval Simalia wrote:Low sec needs dedicated content not available in high or null sec. Make PI or booster production a low only activity. At least give it something.
My Indy toon does PI in lowsec, mostly for the yield and lack of competition in the particular LS pocket i found.
Aside from higher PvE yield (mining, ratting, PI, plexing) there is no real reason to go to LS other than to use your fleet to gank solo pilots or destroy your sec status, that's why I left Egghelendhe after YarrC fell apart (or however its spelled) ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
283
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Posted - 2012.01.17 22:39:00 -
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About 6 months ago, I could roam the surrounding systems of Amamake in my Merlin, hopping from belt to belt... and I would find 5 or more targets/fights in a half hour of play time. Now, it's just not the same. Even the amount of frigate traffic in Amamake's belts is half of what it use to be.
I hope lowsec turns around soon.
Heretic Army CEO Host of Frigfry Fridays http://judelloyd.blog.com/ -á |
drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.01.17 23:10:00 -
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This is what happens when you camp all the gates so noob solo pvpers can't get in and when they are in.. you blob them. So we go and join null blob's |
Plutonian
Intransigent
15
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Posted - 2012.01.18 08:00:00 -
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Jude Lloyd wrote:About 6 months ago, I could roam the surrounding systems of Amamake in my Merlin, hopping from belt to belt... and I would find 5 or more targets/fights in a half hour of play time. Now, it's just not the same. Even the amount of frigate traffic in Amamake's belts is half of what it use to be.
I hope lowsec turns around soon.
Well, you'll probably be seeing more AF targets soon. Sadly, their buff will thin out the already scant T1 frigs and cruisers. Until CCP revisits those expect long roams with few targets. |
canflipper
Infested U.E.D.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.18 08:12:00 -
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There's a very simple way to fix this and get more people to lowsec belts, just remove asteroids from high and null |
Bernie Nator
Insidious Design Talocan United
60
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Posted - 2012.01.18 10:07:00 -
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I say we add null specific rocks that are better than certain rocks in null and high. THAT'LL show them all!
Yeah...! |
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
86
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Posted - 2012.01.18 10:31:00 -
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Bernie Nator wrote:I say we add null specific rocks that are better than certain rocks in null and high. THAT'LL show them all!
Yeah...!
this is one of the things I hope CCP will do ... ad one or two specific not occupiable resource into low sec. In that moment nullbears and highbears will come to lowsec and the fun can start en mass!
I drool over mining fleets jumped in by rorquals and protected by combat fleets .... multiside clashes ... rich boys forced to fight for their fuel tower with us lowsec scumm ... i had a dream ... u know. :) IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free>>>free ****>>>????
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Pinaculus
Hole Busters
137
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:27:00 -
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Make faction war victory actually matter. It's so odd that this giant war has been going for years and there's no reason to care who wins. I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
110
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:51:00 -
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why should anybody care about lowsec except lowseccers?
Did CCP organize 0.0 alliances? Maybe it is CCP made 0.0 corps, put POSes and jump-bridges, built outposts and grinded industry and military levels in 0.0??? Nope. 0.0 people made it all.
lowseccers can only kill and destruct. That's why you have nothing interesting for people to come to you. And you cry "CCP! CCP! CCP!" |
Smodab Ongalot
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
55
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:41:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:why should anybody care about lowsec except lowseccers?
Did CCP organize 0.0 alliances? Maybe it is CCP made 0.0 corps, put POSes and jump-bridges, built outposts and grinded industry and military levels in 0.0??? Nope. 0.0 people made it all.
lowseccers can only kill and destruct. That's why you have nothing interesting for people to come to you. And you cry "CCP! CCP! CCP!"
You are the most worthless piece of **** I've seen in some time on these forums. You seem to be in complete ignorance of your total lack of understanding regarding, well, anything really.
To answer your first question, no CCP did not make the 0.0 alliances, but they did give you your sov mechanics, they gave you POSes, JB's, Outposts, and all the other things you have. Without CCP creating that content for you, you'd be sitting in space in your ship with nothing to do.
Sort of like low-sec.
Lets see, in low-sec we have....... Ice belts? Naw, can find those in high & null..... Medium level minerals? Naw... You can get that from drones (you should know this you ******* botting ******). Oh, I know, we have level 5 missions! That's pretty much about it....
And tbh, with incursions, who the **** wants to run level 5s?
Why don't you just concentrate on your botting and RMTing and leave the forum posting to those of us with some modicum of intelligence. |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
45
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:58:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:why should anybody care about lowsec except lowseccers?
Did CCP organize 0.0 alliances? Maybe it is CCP made 0.0 corps, put POSes and jump-bridges, built outposts and grinded industry and military levels in 0.0??? Nope. 0.0 people made it all.
lowseccers can only kill and destruct. That's why you have nothing interesting for people to come to you. And you cry "CCP! CCP! CCP!"
I support this thingy.....
But i would like to add that since we have a border crossing in eve betwean a 0.5+ systems and 0.4- systems with customs office on each side (concord on the 0.5+ side and random guy on 0.4- side) sadly and unfortunately lovsec has currently turned into a combination of deep deep Africa with elements of a ghetto...
You did it to yourself..... if you were actualy pirates and not grefers lovsec would be interesting...
Now go back to your ghetto and stay there.... Us rich folk have isk to make. Please dont bother us any more... My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |
shal ri
Zanzibar Land
6
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:14:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:why should anybody care about lowsec except lowseccers?
Did CCP organize 0.0 alliances? Maybe it is CCP made 0.0 corps, POSes and jump-bridges, built outposts and grinded industry and military levels in 0.0??? Nope. 0.0 people made it all.
lowseccers can only kill and destruct. That's why you have nothing interesting for people to come to you. And you cry "CCP! CCP! CCP!"
yes and we want more to kill and destrory. plus u carebears cry all the time. so plz spare us ' lowseccers ' ur null bullshit.
as for the reason for ppl not goin to belts. its very simple. every 1 is on the gate doin a camp and it will most likey stay that wayas blobs dont do belts. even so there are still fights in the belts. any pirate that doesnt use dscan for wrecks is fail. wrecks means carebear. wrecks mean theres a kill to be had. find the wrecks. find the kill. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
111
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:25:00 -
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Smodab Ongalot wrote:... some meaningless whine ...
well. you are simply nothing here... just one more cry-babe. However i can answer to your whine. Maybe some people will read it...
Yes, CCP gave us TOOLS. And WE ( i mean 0.0 people ) used it.
YOU ( i mean low-sec people ) have something too: 1. no CONCORD 2. better* ores in belts 3. better* planets 4. POCOs 5. better* agents 6. better* rats 7. more and more better* stuff....
And... which tool you (lowseccers) use? Let me guess... Number 1? Sure. Other numbers? .... Why? Because this is for "stupid carebears" (c) pro-pvpers.
And now you ask for more? Use what you have right now.
And don't remember: we (sov-0.0 people) already loose something (just recall jump-bridges and SC nerfs).
* - better than in high-sec. |
Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
285
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Posted - 2012.01.18 17:53:00 -
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Lmao silly carebears. Heretic Army CEO Host of Frigfry Fridays http://judelloyd.blog.com/ -á |
Plutonian
Intransigent
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Posted - 2012.01.18 17:53:00 -
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I see we're being trolled by nullsec residents. That's original.
You guys must be bored waiting for your next fleet to form up. Just tell that FC that 200 pilots should be enough, let's get going...
oops, sorry...
Forgot that you do what you're told. You have masters to answer to. |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
101
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:12:00 -
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Plutonian wrote:I see we're being trolled by nullsec residents. That's original. You guys must be bored waiting for your next fleet to form up. Just tell that FC that 200 pilots should be enough, let's get going... oops, sorry... Forgot that you do what you're told. You have masters to answer to.
But he does have a point.
Why even bother with low sec? All I've ever seen there are blobs and gate camps (with the odd carrier thrown in) to make any activity in low sec a total waste of time. Massive risk, very little reward.
That's not to mention the sec hit should you actually fire first and kill someone.
And he's also right, you did this all yourselves. Sure, be a pirate and kill every carebear you see, just don't expect that pilot to be back anytime soon. Low sec remains a desolate waste land, gratz! |
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1029
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:32:00 -
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I always believed it should be the only area you can use to pull your sec status up from negative status. The logic being Concord don't monitor null sec so shouldn't be paying bounties out there, and criminal acts anywhere in empire should be acquitted by doing ones time fighting (NPC) piracy in low sec empire.
Benefits: + It's not counterable with the usual carebear whine "you just want more shinies to shoot", since it only entices criminals. + (very) Moderate nerf to suicide ganking as you have to make up for your crimes with some time spent in low sec, but introduces high sec 'PVP'ers to low sec. + 0.0 residents can't just hide in deep null to get their standings up in complete safety. + General increase of activity in low sec and a reason to go there (for some). + Those visiting to raise sec are obviously PVPers so greater potential for finding small engagements there, and not just 'trying to populate low sec with shiny PVE fit carebears'.
~ repeating myself now so will leave it at that. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:46:00 -
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Spank is right and its been argued on and off for years.
Want to make low-sec relevant?
Here's a simple 1, 2, 3.....
1) Bounties for rats in npc null - fine, you can justify it by saying Concorde wants pirates dead. Gets people out there as bounties should be higher. Sec increase in null - no, its not part of Empire.
2) The only place you should be able to increase sec status should be in 0.1-0.4 systems.
3) Bounties for rats (belts etc, not anomalies) in sov null should be down to the sov holder.
Do something like that and low-sec gets more population, npc null might get more and sov holders start paying the real bills.
Won't happen but it'd be nice.... |
DaRiKavus
Expendable Asset's
7
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:47:00 -
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Lower the sec status hit in low sec (for engaging) and lower gate gun damage (either make it proportional to sig radius or lower the overall dps) and it would certainly make it a little easier to fight in small gangs or even solo. Hell solo roaming and engaging on a gate in a frig might even be an option.
While I am throwing unresearched, not very well thought out ideas into the mix why not add a couple of BS rats to the gates if a blob has sat there for more than x ammount of time. No bounties or loot for these rats but hopefully drive people off the gates rather than the ghey blobs that roam low sec 50% of the time.
Well I shall take a look at this thread a little later to see how the flaming of my comments goes.
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Plutonian
Intransigent
18
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:58:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote:But he does have a point. Why even bother with low sec? All I've ever seen there are blobs and gate camps (with the odd carrier thrown in) to make any activity in low sec a total waste of time. Massive risk, very little reward. That's not to mention the sec hit should you actually fire first and kill someone. And he's also right, you did this all yourselves. Sure, be a pirate and kill every carebear you see, just don't expect that pilot to be back anytime soon. Low sec remains a desolate waste land, gratz!
All right... I'm a gonna bite.
I have, only once, ever attacked a non-combat seeking ship in low-sec. And, in my defense, that pilot was ratting in Amamake 3-1, and I thought he was bait. When it turned out he actually was a new player ratting, I advised him on how to survive, reimbursed his ship, and gave him around 10m isk. Talked him into joining Eve Uni and he was there for about six months. Last I heard he's off in WH space now.
If I encounter two frigates dueling at a planet or belt, I remove myself from the field so they won't think I'll rush in to kill the victor before he can get repped up again.
The last gate camp I participated in was to secure the gates in Fountain while the Brutally Clever Empire set up shop. Think that was back in 2007.
Pluto's current sec status is (IIRC) 4.3. My other character's sec status is 5.0. Why? Because I have no alts, no boosters, no backup, no nothing. Perfect total solo fighter. That means I'm in smaller ships. Want to know who flies the smaller ships these days? Pirates. In two months I've engaged maybe two people who were not flashy... all the rest were pirates.
I give back loot to very younger pilots who lose against me. I never ask for any loot back.
I'm not anti-pirate. Actually, I love pirates; they are the most laid back people you'll ever find in this game.
I've a really nice fit for a Merlin (which I took from Habadasshoodoo or whatever his name is) which is capable of perma-jamming an attacking Rifter. I won't use it, because it seems cheap and a shoddy thing to do to a fellow solo roaming pilot.
I have never kited anything in this game. Stop. Read that again: I have never kited anything in this game. By god if I'm going to commit to a fight, I commit.
I have participated in duels where I could not break my opponent's tank, but was fast enough to pull away from the battle. However, it seems cheap to have a duel which does not end in someone's wreck, so I plunged back in and lost the ship.
I actually don't like duels... they feel artificial to me. That's why I never ask for one. I want to hunt, and I want to be hunted. If I'm facing two or three very young players, I'd rather they gang up on me than for me to engage them one on one.
And should you think I'm just the oddball out there, I do run into people just like myself. Not very often anymore, but it happens.
The reason I'm telling you this is: Your perceptions of lowsec are wrong.
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Smodab Ongalot
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
55
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Posted - 2012.01.18 19:09:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:
I am full ****** and can't play eve on my own, so I have to bot drone regions for isk to spend on ships I will never PVP in.
Totally missed the boat, further proving my point that you are a full on ******.
My point is that low-sec has nothing that is original. Lets address your points 1 at a time:
1) Neither does null-sec 2) Better than high-sec? Sure. But why risk mining in low-sec when you can bot in drone regions with relative impunity (that means safety) to obtain the same minerals? 3) Again, not original. Null and wh planets are better. 4) Again, not original.... Null and wh have these too 5) Like i mentioned previously, this is the only advantage to low-sec. Level 5 agents. But, don't they have those in 0.0 too? 6) Clearly, you've never been to low-sec. Our rats suck.
So, why the hell would anyone want to go to low-sec, when they could just as easily go to null or wh to achieve the same results?
Why don't you just go back to running your PVE sites, and leave the real PVP discussion to the PVPers? |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
89
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Posted - 2012.01.18 19:47:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I always believed it should be the only area you can use to pull your sec status up from negative status. The logic being Concord don't monitor null sec so shouldn't be paying bounties out there, and criminal acts anywhere in empire should be acquitted by doing ones time fighting (NPC) piracy in low sec empire.
Benefits: + It's not counterable with the usual carebear whine "you just want more shinies to shoot", since it only entices criminals. + (very) Moderate nerf to suicide ganking as you have to make up for your crimes with some time spent in low sec, but introduces high sec 'PVP'ers to low sec. + 0.0 residents can't just hide in deep null to get their standings up in complete safety. + General increase of activity in low sec and a reason to go there (for some). + Those visiting to raise sec are obviously PVPers so greater potential for finding small engagements there, and not just 'trying to populate low sec with shiny PVE fit carebears'.
~ repeating myself now so will leave it at that. Funny situation .... I have to agree with u ..... Nice idea IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free>>>free ****>>>????
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Trinkets friend
Obstergo NEM3SIS.
101
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Posted - 2012.01.19 01:08:00 -
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LOL @ the person who claims lowsec inhabitants can use d-scan. If its not got a spawn beacon, 90% of them can't find it. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu
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Garr Earthbender
Quantum Cats Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2012.01.19 01:54:00 -
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Pirates are great fun to shoot at. It's more challenging to catch someone when you can't bubble them. Being able to take gate guns AND hold the field against a larger force? awesome.
FW happens in low sec. So there's that. (for what it's worth I like FW. Small engagements FTW.) Also, no bubbles.
Also, there's no bubbles in low sec.
I don't like bubbles.
I DO like my implants.
/allmyopinionsyoudon'thavetoagreewithme. |
Johnny Punisher
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2012.01.19 03:22:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I always believed it should be the only area you can use to pull your sec status up from negative status. The logic being Concord don't monitor null sec so shouldn't be paying bounties out there, and criminal acts anywhere in empire should be acquitted by doing ones time fighting (NPC) piracy in low sec empire.
Benefits: + It's not counterable with the usual carebear whine "you just want more shinies to shoot", since it only entices criminals. + (very) Moderate nerf to suicide ganking as you have to make up for your crimes with some time spent in low sec, but introduces high sec 'PVP'ers to low sec. + 0.0 residents can't just hide in deep null to get their standings up in complete safety. + General increase of activity in low sec and a reason to go there (for some). + Those visiting to raise sec are obviously PVPers so greater potential for finding small engagements there, and not just 'trying to populate low sec with shiny PVE fit carebears'.
I totally support this idea. |
Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
174
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Posted - 2012.01.19 03:25:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I always believed it should be the only area you can use to pull your sec status up from negative status. The logic being Concord don't monitor null sec so shouldn't be paying bounties out there, and criminal acts anywhere in empire should be acquitted by doing ones time fighting (NPC) piracy in low sec empire.
Benefits: + It's not counterable with the usual carebear whine "you just want more shinies to shoot", since it only entices criminals. + (very) Moderate nerf to suicide ganking as you have to make up for your crimes with some time spent in low sec, but introduces high sec 'PVP'ers to low sec. + 0.0 residents can't just hide in deep null to get their standings up in complete safety. + General increase of activity in low sec and a reason to go there (for some). + Those visiting to raise sec are obviously PVPers so greater potential for finding small engagements there, and not just 'trying to populate low sec with shiny PVE fit carebears'.
~ repeating myself now so will leave it at that.
Well said. |
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