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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:16:00 -
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The CSM visited CCP in December 2011 to discuss EVE Online and its future development. CCP Xhagen and the CSM members have compiled the meeting minutes for your perusal, read all about it here.
The CSM and CCP will be actively monitoring this thread and encourage your feedback. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1311
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:21:00 -
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Sorry it took so long, everyone. There was a lot of material to process. Enjoy! CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism! CSM 6 Activities Summary | My CSM blog |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:21:00 -
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You would release this just as I have to leave for work, wouldn't you?
:argh: ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:23:00 -
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Ground floor of what should be an ~interesting~ thread. Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |
Temmu Guerra
Sickle Moon Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:25:00 -
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Well looks like I have some reading material for lunch today.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:27:00 -
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Plenty of good stuff in there, and if folks have any questions, feel free to ask! CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog What does CSM 6 do? |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
931
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:31:00 -
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Temmu Guerra wrote:Well looks like I have some reading material for lunch today.
You might have to extend lunch as this is some very interesting reading ... and not too short either! CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1224
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:31:00 -
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"The value of the CSM has been seen in the past and there is no reason to disregard that fact on CCPGÇÖs behalf."
He, Hehe, Hehehe
I guess now CCP will Listen to CSM. dAWwww, here he goes. -áPoastin' Drunk agin. |
Mr Bigwinky
4U Services Inc. 4U Holdings Inc
102
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:32:00 -
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I approve of this Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself GÖÑ |
Draco Rosso
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:39:00 -
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Using faction warfare as a test-bed for nullsec sov? $^$%%&^$%$%$%#$#$@# Faction warfare is it's own destination not a $#$$$ test bed for DULL-SEC. Yes, I'm very mad. We need a FW guy in CSM now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:41:00 -
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IBC!
Thanks for the minutes, there are up much more quickly than in previous years. That's greatly appreciated. It's not you guys who need to repair what has been broken, it's us. CCP Wrangler |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:41:00 -
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Remove the CSM
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Ian Grimshaw
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:42:00 -
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It's very pity that inferior quality of Mac OS X client isn't prioritized and isn't talked about at all. CCP, if you're commited to making a quality product, then it really should be a quality product. Either make a playable client for Mac or don't distribute it and declare that you support Mac at all. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
272
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:57:00 -
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So, there have been concerns about single voter blocks dominating the CSM. CCPs "solution" to this is making a system that makes it much easier for the power blocks to dominate the CSM...
Very convenient indeed. Meta gaming for the win. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Mr Bigwinky
4U Services Inc. 4U Holdings Inc
102
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Posted - 2012.01.17 16:58:00 -
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Ian Grimshaw wrote:It's very pity that inferior quality of Mac OS X client isn't prioritized and isn't talked about at all. CCP, if you're commited to making a quality product, then it really should be a quality product. Either make a playable client for Mac or don't distribute it and declare that you support Mac at all. Lol Mac.
Your problem is that you bought a Mac, bro Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself GÖÑ |
Myxx
Atropos Group Blood Right
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:02:00 -
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THERE SEEMS TO BE A BURNING QUESTION THAT CCP AND THE CSM SEEM TO HAVE BEEN IGNORING, DESPITE BEING ASKED TO SPEAK WITH CCP ABOUT IT PRIOR TO THE SUMMIT
So hey, why is this not being answered? |
Celebris Nexterra
Lowsec Static
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:02:00 -
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IBC, but only because I haven't read the minutes yet
Beginning that quest now! |
Max Von Sydow
Droneboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:12:00 -
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Buffing T1 frigates and cruisers + fixing Tier 1 BCs. Am I smelling tiercide? |
Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box
20
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:17:00 -
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Quote: The CSM reiterated its desire for CCP to implement a partial skill respec, especially in the aftermath of major changes to ship classes such as the removal of drones from supercarriers
How about no.
If you wanna do flavor of the month, live with it when it gets put in line. |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:28:00 -
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What's wrong with the PDF that I can't even search for text in it? |
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Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:43:00 -
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Quote:The CSM noted that alliance income should be tied more closely to actually possessing territory rather than sov-independent income sources like moons.
No.
Otherwise you have positive feedback loops when an alliance starts gaining ground. Income should be more player based, meaning an alliance also needs to gather more members to generate income and supply/maintain their expansion. |
Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:44:00 -
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OMG! So glad I cancelled my subscriptions! What a bunch of crap. We will fix the free election system by removing all other candidates. After all, the Party (null sec) knows best!
Why does it take CCP and the CSM so much time to fail so badly? You can't think of anything else to do with Faction Warfare besides make it into null sec? Really? Did the people who had the actual idea that started it leave the country?
I swear to God, the onlything these people know how to do is"Maybe we should put another structure bash in? People seem to like those since they do them all the time." I have pity foryou after looking at the low level of "brain storming" involved here. It probably took more effort to go to the men's room.
Seriously, if this is the best that can come out of all this, pull the plug. You can't leaveon a high note since that time has passed. At least you should stop looking more like a fool. Your creativity and imagination have been killed off. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:47:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:Otherwise you have positive feedback loops when an alliance starts gaining ground. Income should be more player based, meaning an alliance also needs to gather more members to generate income and supply/maintain their expansion. You are basically saying the same thing as the CSM. Read further down for discussion on how they want alliance income to come from ratting taxes or PI taxes. More sov -> more income for members -> more income for alliance. The theory is pretty solid. What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
364
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:51:00 -
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Quote:Turning to lowsec the CSM simply stated that little enjoyment is currently to be found there. There are rewards there but only if players are not interrupted by other players, which happens all the time. Why does the CSM feel lowsec enjoyment is tied to PVE rewards? Lowsec enjoyment is all about PVP, not PVE, and there is lots of it to be found, if you know where to look. What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |
John Nucleus
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:52:00 -
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"CCP acknowledged the imperative of a second midslot on the Retribution"
Also, how about just putting 2 mid slots by default to anything meant to fight wars, like the Coercer for example?
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Ian Grimshaw
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.17 17:57:00 -
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Mr Bigwinky wrote:Ian Grimshaw wrote:It's very pity that inferior quality of Mac OS X client isn't prioritized and isn't talked about at all. CCP, if you're commited to making a quality product, then it really should be a quality product. Either make a playable client for Mac or don't distribute it and declare that you support Mac at all. Lol Mac. Your problem is that you bought a Mac, bro
You see, I have no problem in that, because I run Eve client in Parallels, and it works like a charm in a VM. The problem is with CCP not admitting that Mac client they provide is buggy and useless. For new players with Mac OS X that will be just a distraction. |
enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2012.01.17 18:05:00 -
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tl;dr The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1311
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Posted - 2012.01.17 18:07:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:Why does the CSM feel lowsec enjoyment is tied to PVE rewards? Lowsec enjoyment is all about PVP, not PVE, and there is lots of it to be found, if you know where to look.
In order to support predators, you need prey. In order to support prey, you need abundant food for them to graze upon, enough that the occasional loss to predation is acceptable.
And getting that balance right, especially given that lowsec is squeezed from both sides by highsec and nullsec, can be very difficult.
A lot of hisec PI people, for example, are sufficiently risk-adverse that they won't try PI in lowsec, even though it can be quite profitable and reasonably low-risk. For them, the risk/reward just isn't there; they put a higher value on a loss than they do a gain. CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism! CSM 6 Activities Summary | My CSM blog |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.17 18:09:00 -
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GÖÑ CSM |
Tsubutai
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.01.17 18:15:00 -
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Mostly good/interesting stuff in there. I liked almost all the stuff about ship balancing. Some things however jumped out as being objectionable:
Very sceptical about the disabling of npc station services - while I'm sure life in Syndicate, Curse, and Stain would continue more or less as normal, albeit with slightly more vicious wars between local entities, I think this is going to be really bad news for small-gang entities basing in places like X-7.
Drake changes = heh. There will be outraged howls from all over.
I disagree quite strongly with the claim that the Talos is underpowered - nano-y shield setups are *extremely* effective and something of a nascent FOTM.
The comments on lowsec likewise seem... extremely misinformed. I suspect that the ~8% of the playerbase (fun fact: that's almost 3x the number of people that live in wormholes!) that lives in lowsec would disagree fairly emphatically with the claim that there is "little enjoyment" there or that the primary draw of lowsec is the "rewards." Likewise, the comments about probes and intel are beyond daft - it's perfectly possible to maintain situational awareness and carebear in lowsec in safety if you know what you're doing or are willing and able to take de facto control of a mission hub. |
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