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Friendly Explorer
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:31:00 -
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Hey Guys and Girls,
My only question is - as the subject says also - what would you do with 10.000.000.000 ISK (10 Billion).
Waiting for the good ideas!
BR.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:35:00 -
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I'd go "meh" because I still wouldn't be over 100 billion
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Daeva Vios
Ardent Adversary Anvil.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:42:00 -
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I would find the best way of turning it into 20m isk, and 20 into 40, and 40 into 80, and so on and so forth.
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Mediastinum
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mediastinum on 04/09/2007 18:05:14 I would probably split it into percentages. Using a large percent to start buying/selling and get the ships necessary to do some large-scale mining and hauling (with equip and ins+clones), I would then begin looking for investment opportunities here on the forums and ask around to some of the Venture Capitalists, picking their brains about the process and securities of investing in other players business ideas. I would also look at the Eve Online Stock Exchange (RESX, I believe, which can be found on these forums). I definently hold back a percentage for future operations and security so all my eggs dont go splat if I make a noob-ish decision due to lack of knowledge or player scams.
Yep, I guess thats about it. With my limited knowledge and game time (less than 14 days so far) I'm sure I'll learn more and would have more ideas as I spent more time in game. The hardest part of the game at this point for me is figuring out how to really, really play the market as far as buying and selling, and what manufactured goods sell well and where.
Examples of what I would consider investing in: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=518895 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584836
and others....
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Hexxx
Minmatar ironwood ink
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:17:00 -
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3 billion into shares and bonds.
5 billion into launching a T2 supply chain business.
2 billion into trading.
Done.
p.s. Ok, I might skim a hundred million and buy as much liquor and exotic dancers as I possibly can. Guilty as charged.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Daeva Vios I would find the best way of turning it into 20m isk, and 20 into 40, and 40 into 80, and so on and so forth.
I can help you turn 10 billion into 20 million. Just send the 10 billion to me, and I'll happily send 20 million back. Not a scam!
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Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Robacz on 04/09/2007 19:16:53
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Daeva Vios I would find the best way of turning it into 20m isk, and 20 into 40, and 40 into 80, and so on and so forth.
I can help you turn 10 billion into 20 million. Just send the 10 billion to me, and I'll happily send 20 million back. Not a scam!
Damn it! I was just going to make him same offer. Oh well, too late...
Oh and to post something on topic... I guess you are asking how to invest them? That depends on level of your laziness. If you are very lazy, just buy ISSO or FIN-U shares, if you are a bit less lazy, buy some expensive BPO(s) and make nice ME on it(them) (*cough*ORE*cough), if you are even less lazy, buy stuff from your 0.0 friends in bulk and resell it on Jita and if you are not lazy at all, use it for regular trading or buy some underpriced T2 BPO and produce your own items.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari I'd go "meh" because I still wouldn't be over 100 billion
Really? I always assumed you had a bit more than that based on the way people seem to worship you here, heh. I would have guessed 150-200 bil or more.
To answer the OP though I'd try to remember back when I got my first 10 billion and what I was going back then. Then I'd just let it sit in my wallet to keep the rest of my money company.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Dark Shikari I'd go "meh" because I still wouldn't be over 100 billion
Really? I always assumed you had a bit more than that based on the way people seem to worship you here, heh. I would have guessed 150-200 bil or more.
Nope, just about 60-70b in assets. I'm too lazy to leverage it these days.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Robacz if you are a bit less lazy, buy some expensive BPO(s) and make nice ME on it(them) (*cough*ORE*cough),
Hehe I would strongly recommend against this. Not only does 1 level of research take 80 days, but every man and his dog had the same thing in mind when the patch came about.
45% will be building and attempting to sell at inflated costs
45% will be researching and attempting to sell first bpo's at inflated costs 10% will buy 2 weeks after patch day and try to research before realising that he has to sell at 200m below buy cost just to dump the capital due to the market flood and price flooring.
So I strongly recommend against this bpo
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Taikun
Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.04 20:00:00 -
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^^ I concur.
I am lookig forward to picking up my Industrial Capital BPO for 10-20% below NPC price in a few months.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.09.04 21:12:00 -
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buy 10 bn worth of stuff, and then blow that stuff up :D
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2007.09.04 21:26:00 -
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invest it all into long running ipo's with decent returns be amused at getting free isk every month and move to 0.0 space
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altforaday
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Posted - 2007.09.04 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Friendly Explorer Edited by: Friendly Explorer on 04/09/2007 17:40:56 Hey Guys and Girls,
My only question is - as the subject says also - what would you do with 10.000.000.000 ISK (10 Billion).
Waiting for the good ideas!
BR.
my main HAS 10 billion isk
Blueprints are the win button in this game
Friendly Explorer
PS: Please try to keep the thread clean, and concentrate on the question... Thx
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.09.04 22:29:00 -
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Caldari Navy fitted Caldari Navy Raven :) Full Crystal set, stash the rest in other peoples investments.
Improve Market Competition!
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.04 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Dark Shikari I'd go "meh" because I still wouldn't be over 100 billion
Really? I always assumed you had a bit more than that based on the way people seem to worship you here, heh. I would have guessed 150-200 bil or more.
Nope, just about 60-70b in assets. I'm too lazy to leverage it these days.
Very interesting. I've been curious how much you've had for a while now
I think it will make a lot of people's jaws hit the floor to see that you have 60-70b. But as you said, you aren't really leveraging your money. You could likely have a ton more if you tried. I know it can get quite tiring to keep up the effort when every transaction makes such a tiny blip in your overall money supply.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2007.09.04 22:29:00 -
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Read the last thread that asked this?
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.04 22:43:00 -
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Another 10 billion in bonds/shares would be good... be another billion + return monthly to finance my fancy ships.
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Gallavantum
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Posted - 2007.09.04 23:12:00 -
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Find a low maintenance, decent margin market to invest your ISK in (some kind of production). Use your income from that market to buy PVP crap.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.09.04 23:24:00 -
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Falbala
Gallente Les Enfants de Gaia
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Posted - 2007.09.04 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Falbala on 04/09/2007 23:29:21 Supposing your trade skills are maxed, so you can buy and sell region wide, if you are not afraid of travelling a lot, then you can take over an entire product or product category. I experimented this 2 years ago at a smaller scale with only 10 million but it works well.
For example, lets target a product worth actually 100k. Preferrably something not available through mining because it can backfire. Your target price will be 150k so with 10 billions you expect to make 15 billions which is reasonable.
For example, the datacore gallente starship engineering is worth 50k-100k because the market is flooded, every gallente who does research have it. You will find an average 10,000 on market per region. So 100M/region. With 10 billion you can cover 10 times that amount on 10 regions, which should be enough to create a real penury.
So wake up one day and buy every datacore gallente starship engineering. Of course every gallente researcher will go cash in their research point and the day after there will be 5 times what you bought. Buy all a second time. Maybe there will be another wave of income but now the prices will sky rocket by themselves you just need to sell them small quantities at a time to keep the prioes up.
If you fail to create a penury, it backfires and you lose your money. I wouldn't do this on anything mineral based, the risks are too great.
You asked in public so I answer in public, but generally this kind of plans work only if you keep it secret...
I experimented this strategy with 10 millions isk on Iron M two years ago, it was fun, but I lost because 2 producers near Yulai introduced about 1 million Iron M on market, it's why I say don't play with anything mineral based unless you really know the market because it really backfires very easily.
Of course before doing this you'd need a more serious study than this post, ie know exactly what is on market today at what price, and a good estimation of what could be raised tommorrow if many researchers were going to see their agent to get more datacores.
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Ionia
Advanced Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.09.05 00:31:00 -
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Buy 10k units of FRPB for a passive 700m/month income. Contact me in game if youre interested.
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.05 05:19:00 -
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.05 07:44:00 -
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I would buy an army(Or hire the MC), and seek to kill all capital ships in eve, for the good of eve.
Theres too many capital ships
(Shh, im not biased )
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.05 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Falbala Edited by: Falbala on 04/09/2007 23:50:18 Edited by: Falbala on 04/09/2007 23:29:21 Supposing your trade skills are maxed, so you can buy and sell region wide, if you are not afraid of travelling a lot, then you can take over an entire product or product category. I experimented this 2 years ago at a smaller scale with only 10 million but it works well.
For example, lets target a product worth actually 100k. Preferrably something not available through mining because it can backfire. Your target price will be 150k so with 10 billions you expect to make 15 billions which is reasonable.
For example, the datacore gallente starship engineering is worth 50k-100k because the market is flooded, every gallente who does research have it. You will find an average 10,000 on market per region. So 100M/region. With 10 billion you can cover 10 times that amount on 10 regions, which should be enough to create a real penury.
So wake up one day and buy every datacore gallente starship engineering. Of course every gallente researcher will go cash in their research point and the day after there will be 5 times what you bought. Buy all a second time. Maybe there will be another wave of income but now the prices will sky rocket by themselves you just need to sell them small quantities at a time to keep the prioes up.
If you fail to create a penury, it backfires and you lose your money. I wouldn't do this on anything mineral based, the risks are too great.
You asked in public so I answer in public, but generally this kind of plans work only if you keep it secret...
I experimented this strategy with 10 millions isk on Iron M two years ago, it was fun, but I lost because 2 producers near Yulai introduced about 1 million Iron M on market, it's why I say don't play with anything mineral based unless you really know the market because it really backfires very easily.
Of course before doing this you'd need a more serious study than this post, ie know exactly what is on market today at what price, and a good estimation of what could be raised tommorrow if many researchers were going to see their agent to get more datacores.
Edit: sorry I forgot the point, your target price is 150k so you buy everything under 150k, of course the price can go much higher but you stick to that rules, let the other traders make it go higher if they want: the stock is yours.
He didn't ask how to lose 10 billion ISK in record time
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.05 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ionia Buy 10k units of FRPB for a passive 700m/month income. Contact me in game if youre interested.
You still have more shares available eh? *checks my wallet*
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Annerinas
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Posted - 2007.09.05 08:02:00 -
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T2 BPO.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.05 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Annerinas T2 BPO.
Worst suggestion... EVER.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.05 08:56:00 -
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I'd buy some estamel cruise missile launchers for my raven and then go to lowsec and punish some pirates with it
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.05 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba I'd buy some estamel cruise missile launchers for my raven and then go to lowsec and punish some pirates with it
Id love to see that.
Maybe kill some carriers aswell? Ill give you 2 beers per carrier you kill!
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