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Asegeir
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kara Zane Well the answer is simple dont use the trial when your main is logged on.
well that's tho whole point of this debate.. i want to be able to use them both
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Kara Zane
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:13:00 -
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Well I doubt they will change it even if all the farmers and spammers vanished as its a good way to sell more subs, if people could use trials at will they would be used as market alts and scouts and possibly even suicide gank chars totally free and this way anybody who wants to train 2 chars at once or needs to have 2 chars online at the same time and wants it bad enough will pay.
If they didn't restrict it server traffic would sky rocket with little extra revenue.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:31:00 -
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It is simple.
Using two accounts together, like training so many restricted skills, is something you cannot do on a trial account.
You can whine and moan "But I want to try out Industrials!" but it says clear as day "Cannot be trained on trial accounts" likewise you can say you want to try out having two accounts logged in. Same story. Cannot be done with trial accounts.
My suggestion is to skill the trial account until you're ready then splash out a whopping $15, bite the hybrid charge and try it properly. ----- I'll be in my pod |
Jessickah
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:46:00 -
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You can use two (or more) paid accounts simultaneously.
If you have a trial account on then this is the only instance of the EVE Client that may be running.
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Raynes Orbis
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.08 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Asegeir
well that's tho whole point of this debate.. i want to be able to use them both
Debate? This isnt a debate, its a whine thread about you not having your way for all too obvious reasons.
Pay up or simply log one at the time. Your own comments contradict each other. IF you really just want to test skills, you need NOT be dual logged.
You just want to walk way with a free account. Now shush. -----
Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you lest other people spend it for you. |
Asegeir
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.08 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Raynes Orbis
Originally by: Asegeir
well that's tho whole point of this debate.. i want to be able to use them both
Debate? This isnt a debate, its a whine thread about you not having your way for all too obvious reasons.
Pay up or simply log one at the time. Your own comments contradict each other. IF you really just want to test skills, you need NOT be dual logged.
You just want to walk way with a free account. Now shush.
you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how puny they might be, just as am i. once we start talking about them we enter a debate. but nevermind your shortsight in this matter, for the sake of argument, i'm not trying to walk away with a free account, nor i need to be dual logged for testing the trial account, i just want to oportunity to do so. ofc i can log in and out, keeping 1 acc online, but that's just bad game mech i'm complaining about. in this case, i'm allready accused of beeing a spammer or a macrominer, cause there's no other use of the trial been able to work with another payed account at the same time?! that's just wrong..
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:10:00 -
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Very well, Asegeir, let's start from basics.
What do you want to do with your new account? ----- I'll be in my pod |
Falbala
Gallente Les Enfants de Gaia
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:11:00 -
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Trial is for trying. If you have a paid account you have tried already, no?
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Kejsar Brutus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Asegeir
look, i'm not exploiting or abusing anything. i'm a paying customer that wants to further explore the posibilities of the game, thus the trial account.. why not any of the alts on my main acc? cause with a trial i can create a character that allready has those set of skills i'm looking for, and yes all my alt slots are allready taken, scouts ftw..
i'm not saying that mechanisms for preventing spammers and other sad ppl should not exists, i'm saying that some kind of modification should be done to it. i've two paying accounts and i'm playing and paying them for 2 years now, never abused or exploited any part of the game or game mech, and not planing to..
besides, should all ppl that can use emails be called spammers and be locked in jails cause they CAN send spam across the net??
So let me get this straight... Basically you want to be able to bring firearms on an airplane EVEN THOUGH it's forbidden... Just because you never hijacked a plane? See my point?
It's not that you're an abusive macrominer or this and that. It's because if they let you play both your trial and your paying account at the same time, they can NEVER exclude the POSSIBILITY of you abusing the mechanics of it. See now? And if they allowed it JUST FOR YOU, now how would that look?
It's like... You're not allowed to have a knife in your pocket out in the public in sweden. This isn't because everyone that has a knife in their pocket is going to stab someone. But how can they discern who is going to, and who is not? How can CCP know you're not going to abuse the trial mechanics? Take you up on your word? Puhleez...
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Asegeir
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kejsar Brutus
Originally by: Asegeir
look, i'm not exploiting or abusing anything. i'm a paying customer that wants to further explore the posibilities of the game, thus the trial account.. why not any of the alts on my main acc? cause with a trial i can create a character that allready has those set of skills i'm looking for, and yes all my alt slots are allready taken, scouts ftw..
i'm not saying that mechanisms for preventing spammers and other sad ppl should not exists, i'm saying that some kind of modification should be done to it. i've two paying accounts and i'm playing and paying them for 2 years now, never abused or exploited any part of the game or game mech, and not planing to..
besides, should all ppl that can use emails be called spammers and be locked in jails cause they CAN send spam across the net??
So let me get this straight... Basically you want to be able to bring firearms on an airplane EVEN THOUGH it's forbidden... Just because you never hijacked a plane? See my point?
It's not that you're an abusive macrominer or this and that. It's because if they let you play both your trial and your paying account at the same time, they can NEVER exclude the POSSIBILITY of you abusing the mechanics of it. See now? And if they allowed it JUST FOR YOU, now how would that look?
It's like... You're not allowed to have a knife in your pocket out in the public in sweden. This isn't because everyone that has a knife in their pocket is going to stab someone. But how can they discern who is going to, and who is not? How can CCP know you're not going to abuse the trial mechanics? Take you up on your word? Puhleez...
i agree and understand completly.. but when i say this needs to be changed somehow i ment for a bit pruner techinique then 'take up on my word'.
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Raynes Orbis
Gallente Winged Gladius
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Raynes Orbis on 08/09/2007 18:43:51
Originally by: Asegeir
i agree and understand completly.. but when i say this needs to be changed somehow i ment for a bit pruner techinique then 'take up on my word'.
My 'puny shortsightedness' makes me say that you want a change just so it can suit you. It doesnt 'need' to be changed, you 'need' to understand why it doesnt work your way.
But I think that will probably take you another 2-3 pages of 'debate' before you realise it.
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Detrol
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.09 12:35:00 -
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It's quite simple: when a trial account is logged in, it will be the only account up and running. You can moan and whine about it as much as you like, it will not change. Playing with words to get your point across to the forum inhabitants will not mean a thing to CCP.
They have their reasons to do this, you get a free account to try with, only restriction is that you cannot run anything else. If you don't accept that, don't use one.
Imho, you should not even be able to use a trial account as you have a full account available. CCP gives in a little bit so you can still try with free accounts yet you whine about the limitations they put on it.
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.09 12:40:00 -
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"Paid and Confused" is one of my fave Zep tunes. Rawk.
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Wild Xenria
Gallente Space Locusts
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Posted - 2007.09.09 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kejsar Brutus
It's like... You're not allowed to have a knife in your pocket out in the public in sweden. This isn't because everyone that has a knife in their pocket is going to stab someone. But how can they discern who is going to, and who is not? How can CCP know you're not going to abuse the trial mechanics? Take you up on your word? Puhleez...
Now I'm freeked out cos thats the exact example I was gonna use when I finished reading the thread, except for I'd say UK.
But this is spot on. If everyone in the world was nice there'd be a lot of laws/rules/restraints that weren't needed.
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Greenwing
SuX ltd.
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Posted - 2007.09.09 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Greenwing on 09/09/2007 21:25:05 Trial accounts were(and still are) used too much as disposable alts. To prevent this trial accounts have been nerfed so you can not log any other account when your trial-account is active. It's just the way it is, so either pay for your second account, or just use 1 account at a time.
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Ebodhisatva
Gallente hunter killers
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Posted - 2007.09.09 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Ebodhisatva on 09/09/2007 21:28:56
Originally by: Tamia Clant
Originally by: Asegeir
oh? and why aren't trials for me?
Because trials are meant only for a person that never had any contact to the game to experiment and see if they like the game. You already have a paid account, so you know how the game is, and therefore aren't entitled to the 14-day trial period.
You can either do the right thing and pay for a second account right away, which you claim you'll end up buying anyway, or you can skill up the character in the trial account while not playing with your main, but having your main and trial online at the same time is pushing it.
Well the situation is simple, I don't know if I am able to play 2 accounts at the same time,
like 1 support and one ganker on my PC,
like 1 hauler and one miner
like 1 intel and 1 warrior
That is why someone would like to TRY the game with 2 accounts...
And THAT is ONE reason.
I tried that with a Trial, and didn't like it... but at least I tried...
btw, you still can, but run it on separate IP's (or separate PC's)
Originally by: CCP Prism X You wont have any LPs. You need LPs with said Corp and like I said I just nuked your LPs.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.09.09 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ebodhisatva btw, you still can, but run it on separate IP's (or separate PC's)
confirming this. This is how I (used to, second account is inactive) run through lvl4's with a barely-tanked Raven with a support shield repper ship nearby. -
Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online |
Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Asegeir
Originally by: Kara Zane Well the answer is simple dont use the trial when your main is logged on.
well that's tho whole point of this debate.. i want to be able to use them both
Then you need to pay for both accounts. How is that a difficult concept to understand or accept?
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Bishman82
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:12:00 -
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If people could just sign up for a free trial and run it the same time as their main account, they could just create a new trial every 14 days and have a permanent scout on, in fact you would be stupid not to. Hell you might as well make 6 trials so you have a scout in all surrounding regions or systems to check the market or just watch the gates.
You sound like a spoilt child who can't get their own way, even though everyone else has explained in detail why it is not allowed.
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Das Lol
Gallente Internet Space Fighters
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Posted - 2007.09.09 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Das Lol on 09/09/2007 23:31:10 edited wrong thread hurr
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