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Skkarto
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Posted - 2008.04.01 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ebusitanus Bump for a worthy cause!
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Cloora
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Posted - 2008.04.01 23:07:00 -
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As a Crane owner myself I was shocked to find out that other Blockade Runners CAN fit one!!
I have a 10MN AB II on mine. If it is a single HIC I can get back to the gate but most anythnig else its not any use.
I do use the tanking bonus on a Medium Shield Booster II and it is also only of use if there is a single HIC and maybe a BC camping a gate. I have Transport trained to lvl 4.
but I totally agree on +4 PG for the Crane and a more useful bonus.
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Karash Amerius
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.13 20:49:00 -
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To be honest, HIC's really broke the whole concept of the blockade runner. The entire class of ships needs a redesign.
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Stickler inc
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Posted - 2008.05.13 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jmanis Catharg on 13/05/2008 23:35:45
Originally by: Karash Amerius To be honest, HIC's really broke the whole concept of the blockade runner. The entire class of ships needs a redesign.
If they ever removed the cloak/warp trick I'd agree with that. It's enough for lowsec tbh, but even then that's hard to achieve without a 10mn MWD.
However, you're right. As far as transport ships go, it's worth balls in lowsec. The blockade runner is a lot more suited to it, but in light of HICs the +2 WCS bonus on all ships of this class is just daft.
EDIT: But still, /signed coz its silly the other races can comfortably fit a 10mn MWD and the crane cant
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.14 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jmanis Catharg Edited by: Jmanis Catharg on 13/05/2008 23:35:45
Originally by: Karash Amerius To be honest, HIC's really broke the whole concept of the blockade runner. The entire class of ships needs a redesign.
If they ever removed the cloak/warp trick I'd agree with that. It's enough for lowsec tbh, but even then that's hard to achieve without a 10mn MWD.
However, you're right. As far as transport ships go, it's worth balls in lowsec. The blockade runner is a lot more suited to it, but in light of HICs the +2 WCS bonus on all ships of this class is just daft.
EDIT: But still, /signed coz its silly the other races can comfortably fit a 10mn MWD and the crane cant
Well, blockade runners are still fast and agile. That's probably worth more than the WCS bonus always was. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Harlequ1n
FireTech Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.05.16 12:33:00 -
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Once more for the bump. Please make this ship useful again...
Originally by: Gaven Blands
Some of this may be true. Some might be a complete fabrication. Other parts may be interprative. But whatever the case it's all badly written in a hurry.
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Dsnakes
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Posted - 2008.05.16 13:59:00 -
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yes just a few PG more plz !!
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ZERG RUSHKEKE
Gallente Twilight Angels
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Posted - 2008.05.16 14:11:00 -
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/signed ----------------
"O Maker, help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded." |
Mervent
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 00:38:00 -
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/signed
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MrRookie
Interstellar Planetary KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 08:48:00 -
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They should rework them all. The +2 warp stab bonus is completely wothless with HICs now and they should replace the bous with an infinity warp strength.. The biggest treath to the ship is gategankers after HICs anyway THe PG is the least of my concernes :p Sig removed. Please email us at [email protected] if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow
May I have pink next time plz? |
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.17 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: MrRookie They should rework them all. The +2 warp stab bonus is completely wothless with HICs now and they should replace the bous with an infinity warp strength.. The biggest treath to the ship is gategankers after HICs anyway THe PG is the least of my concernes :p
The strength of the class has always been the ability to align, warp and 'burn clear'.
2 points of stabs is enough that a 'ceptor or two', whilst they can keep up and keep a point on, they can't stop you warping.
I think that's actually pretty much fine. You should pretty much be able to outrun any hactor there, from a standing start. At least, in any of the blockade runners that come with the ability to fit a MWD (e.g. all the ones that aren't the Crane) -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 10:07:00 -
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I do a 3% pg implant, which allows me to fit at least a Y-t8 mwd
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MrRookie
Interstellar Planetary KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.17 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: MrRookie on 17/05/2008 11:38:25
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: MrRookie They should rework them all. The +2 warp stab bonus is completely wothless with HICs now and they should replace the bous with an infinity warp strength.. The biggest treath to the ship is gategankers after HICs anyway THe PG is the least of my concernes :p
The strength of the class has always been the ability to align, warp and 'burn clear'.
2 points of stabs is enough that a 'ceptor or two', whilst they can keep up and keep a point on, they can't stop you warping.
I think that's actually pretty much fine. You should pretty much be able to outrun any hactor there, from a standing start. At least, in any of the blockade runners that come with the ability to fit a MWD (e.g. all the ones that aren't the Crane)
Thats very situational. As long as there is anything such as infninite point scramblers there is nothing to prevent a small gang from webbing you. Good luck getting anywhere then. Might aswell be a Badger your flying Sig removed. Please email us at [email protected] if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.05.17 12:56:00 -
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It's 12 km back to the gate. Good luck stopping the BR MWDing back. HICs are no great threat to blockade runners.
Unless, of course, your BR is fat, slow, heavy and can't fit a MWD... that classic gimped-Caldari-PG problem (also see Nighthawk and Caracal).
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.17 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: MrRookie Edited by: MrRookie on 17/05/2008 11:38:25
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: MrRookie They should rework them all. The +2 warp stab bonus is completely wothless with HICs now and they should replace the bous with an infinity warp strength.. The biggest treath to the ship is gategankers after HICs anyway THe PG is the least of my concernes :p
The strength of the class has always been the ability to align, warp and 'burn clear'.
2 points of stabs is enough that a 'ceptor or two', whilst they can keep up and keep a point on, they can't stop you warping.
I think that's actually pretty much fine. You should pretty much be able to outrun any hactor there, from a standing start. At least, in any of the blockade runners that come with the ability to fit a MWD (e.g. all the ones that aren't the Crane)
Thats very situational. As long as there is anything such as infninite point scramblers there is nothing to prevent a small gang from webbing you. Good luck getting anywhere then. Might aswell be a Badger your flying
If it's a gang you run into, then yes, you're probably going to have a problem. But that doesn't actually change anything - a gang is likely to have more points _as well_ as webs. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:36:00 -
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This proves my point that most Caldari ships are either support ships or bait. The crane being the latter.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.18 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Raymond Sterns This proves my point that most Caldari ships are either support ships or bait. The crane being the latter.
Sadly it's just not very good at bait either. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.05.18 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Raymond Sterns This proves my point that most Caldari ships are either support ships or bait. The crane being the latter.
Sadly it's just not very good at bait either.
No one said the bait had to Survive.
It's like using salmon to catch pigeons. _
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.18 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Raymond Sterns
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Raymond Sterns This proves my point that most Caldari ships are either support ships or bait. The crane being the latter.
Sadly it's just not very good at bait either.
No one said the bait had to Survive.
It's like using salmon to catch pigeons.
No, but it does have to last long enough that the thing taking the bait can't pop it, and get clear before you can drop the hammer on them.
Fitting an injector-booster tank would allow it to do this, with it's big cargo, but not with that power grid. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Manina Boat
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.05.18 11:01:00 -
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/signed
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.28 17:28:00 -
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Well, for my sins, I felt the need to put this before the CSMs.
Not a big thing, I know, but ... sometimes it's the little stuff that's easiest to implement, that makes all the difference.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=783086 -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Elhina Novae
Sky's Edge deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.05.28 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Aldelphius /signed
And I would like to see the transport skill bonus be usefull, mabey 1-2% agility and 1-2% reduction in mass per level?
I'm not sure blockade runners need more agility and speed.
What i'd like to see is a sig reduction
or a resists bonus.
Or maybe even an ECM burst optimal.
Or hell, just a '+1 blinky lights per level' bonus. That'd at least be more use :)
That ECM burst sounds interesting /signed Somebody set up us the bomb |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.05.28 18:18:00 -
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Good stuff James. Showed up to support your idea.
I agree that it's small, concrete things like this that have the most chance to be implemented. It's pretty obvious what needs doing, what the effects would be, and why it should be done. Widesweeping changes to propulsion mods and webbers, etc, while attractive, are a whole lot harder to implement.
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Killer Kelly
Allied Tactical Unit Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:11:00 -
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Luckily I'm training for Obelisk on my alt, so a Viator for me. :D ___________ I Get Money in the Scalar Federation |
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