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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.09.12 03:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Icome4u}
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seriously , is your corp and alliance filled with stupid, ignorant, cussing noob kids like you ? ( if not then why they let u in them ? )
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LemonHamster
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Posted - 2007.09.12 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u
*Yawn* every part of my argument got demolished and I was made to look like an idiot, so I'll be cool and pretend I don't care, which is EXACTLY why I was flaming so hard for the last bajillion walls of text
But yeah, keep attempting reasoned debate, I'll ignore it and call you all wow noobs, because I have no connection whatsoever to reality or EVE
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Yowin
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.12 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u
blablabla
Its nearly impossible kill a ms in low sec.
Yes, in your stupid and theorical mind, you can stop him with a army of speed bs with neutralizers. In the real world, when the ms pilot see the local upping, just jump out by cyno or warp to a ss and cloak.
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Ms DaisyMae
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.12 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u
Edited by: Icome4u on 11/09/2007 22:26:45
Ah finaly vet's are starting to post. Read what they wrote noobs.
Also stop ******* whining because you heard from someone that MS are invincible. Trust me they are not. Sureeeee they are annoying in low sec, but guess what... gtfo of the system or take the appropriate measures to take him out.
**** you dumbasses aren't smart enough to bring in 2 or 3 BS with smartbombs to kill all his fighters/drones. Ever seen a Mothership w/o any Fighters or Drones?
Carriers and Motherships look impressive and all, but 99% of your tards keep forgetting something. They are ONLY dangerous if you don't know what to do. Take their fighters/drones out... and they are useless.
Edit: Nos the MS quickly and he can't cyno out. Combine with those damn neut/nos bombs and their goes his cyno out cap. Bump him with MWD/Tank ships, he won't go anywhere. Then let your smartbomb ships take his dps out.
So after a couple minutes of teamwork (yes you need teamwork your ******* ignorant noobs), you have: 50 billion isk of mothership with no were to run + no dps. Have fun!
Bombs can't be used in lowsec...
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Ms DaisyMae
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.12 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u
Edited by: Icome4u on 11/09/2007 22:40:59
Originally by: Jovoich
NO one here has bin screaming about nerfin the MS, 1 person asked how they work and ask (from how i read it) how to get rid/kill a MS. All you have done is shout your mouth off and use offensive language at people.
Cant we get ISD to lock this? i think this guys had his question answered
Feel free to browse around the forum (and re-read this thread). You will see why me/MS pilots are **** off at noobs.
And yes can a ISD lock this crap, and the other 'whaaaaaaaaa nerf ms now' threads.
Edit: Oh and yes i'm using offensive language since being nice for 3ish years doesn't work with those people. So i'm trying a new approach. Next step is in-game greifing with one or more Motherships :)
Greif me pls. Kthnkxby
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GandolftheWhite
Gallente
The Hull Miners Union
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Posted - 2007.09.12 03:41:00 -
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*Drum Rolll.....* Just make it so that stopping people from warping isnt ECM!? !!! Since ecm boats dont get a bonus to Warp disruption it only makes sense. Put them in as some kind of propulsion jamming unit! We can call them... *Drumm rolll!1.* Warp scramblers!
Either ban Super capitals from low sec or allow them to be scrambled, noone should have an I win button like the mom in low sec with a cloak combo.
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Tryptic Photon
Gallente
Asgard Protectorate
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.09.12 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u
Oh and this kid is old enough to drive, drink, smoke, and rent a car (hint).
wow ur mom is super nice!
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Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.09.12 04:43:00 -
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Lowsec motherships suck
Isk should not remove risk
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Smacktalking Alt
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Posted - 2007.09.12 05:14:00 -
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Edited by: Smacktalking Alt on 12/09/2007 05:14:32
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iiOs
Evil Things
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Posted - 2007.09.12 05:52:00 -
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this is teh funney
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.12 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u
*Yawn* I'v become bored once again. You guys fail at entertaining me. Well not all, some where pretty good.
But yeah, keep whining, i'll just keep killing you noobs. It's nothing personal, but my way to show my love to everyone :D
 who are you?
I wasn't aware that our job was to entertain you btw.
Many times have we tried to kill camping MS in low sec, but they run away so fast. As soon as they see local jump..they gone. NO MS has ever been killed in low sec.
I have fraps of about 25 cap ships dropping in on a gate camping MS..and guess what,
it just warped away
Something is wrong with that...
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2007.09.12 07:23:00 -
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It is possible to tank a Nyx with full fighter deployment.
A have seen several ship types tank the damg for over 5 minutes.
Included were Vultures, Nighthawks and a rattlesnake.
"Men are going to die..
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2007.09.12 08:40:00 -
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Icome4u - I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about this topic... I believe that Rells' posts pretty much debunk all of your theories for killing a MS (in low sec, not 0.0)
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
NO MS has ever been killed in low sec.
What he said
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.09.12 09:04:00 -
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Soo...am I the only one who wants to see what happens when a president gets a boner? :/
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isometricantaliac
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Posted - 2007.09.12 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Icome4u
Edited by: Icome4u on 11/09/2007 20:40:29
Yes. Stop arguing in favor of your purchased unbalanced game mechanic. All the low-sec MoM pilots are transparent as hell.
And stop with the shift key, please.
-Karl
I might be mistaken but I think that character was for sale a while ago which might explain the posters lack of knowledge on how/what MS's do at gate camps in Low-Sec..
Seriously though why would anyone want to spend 25 + billion ISK on an MS to use as a gate camping noob ship killer? especially when you can do the very same thing with a ship that costs a lot less than what a MS costs.
I agree with a lot of the people in here that either super caps need to be restricted to 0.0 don't nerf them (cause I want to get on hopefully one day) just keep them where they were meant to be used....
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari
International Multi-Player Consortium
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.12 09:48:00 -
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either restrict super caps to 0.0 (ones in empire/low-sec stay there, but once they leave a system, they cant get back).
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make warp scram/web it's own module type and not classed under ecm, but give the MS a warp core strength of like +4 or something.
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shamai
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Posted - 2007.09.12 10:39:00 -
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I was wondering why I had a really bad 80s song running around in my head while reading this thread...
Tiffany - I think were alone now
The first line from that song SO applies to this thread...
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lyrenna
Caldari
The Renaissance
The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.09.12 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: port22
In regards to locking supercaps to 0.0, im on the fence. Part of me thinks GTFO of the kitchen if you cant stand the heat. The other part of me says they guy has spent so many billion on his/her ship, why shouldnt they be king of the system and do as they please.
being a king/queen is another issue but being invulnerable like a loladin in a bubble is th real issue, i think.
some kind of capital warp distrupt, cynojammer probly solve the whole problem.
risk vs reward can apply with this kind of solution, in current state a mom in low sec is totaly risk free and rewardy.
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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.09.12 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: isometricantaliac
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I might be mistaken but I think that character was for sale a while ago which might explain the posters lack of knowledge on how/what MS's do at gate camps in Low-Sec..
This is the link to the character sale:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=480457
so in reality , our potty pen , highly experienced supercap pilot who has been playing eve since 10 years before eve went online turns out to be an evayed character with 21/22 million skill points ( which face it is pretty noob in cap ship terms ). Now why am I not suprised ?.
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Fafnir Drake
Gallente
Boob Heads
Haud Terminus
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Fafnir Drake on 12/09/2007 13:07:24
K, first of all. Icome4u, you are an arrogant and ignorant prig. I mean, seriously. Ok, noobs whine. But I see a lot of "vets" whine about noobs whining more then noobs.
Now personally, I see low sec mom as a bit of a pain, but not to big a deal for a corp unless the mom is going after your corp to muck with your logistics. And even then, if ya have a carrier for runs down to 0.0, it's not something ya can't work around. However, moms are a real pain for smaller corps and groups. As for killing moms in low sec, yah it's damn near impossible, but most moms get hauled into 0.0 for some reason or other, even dedicated low sec gate camp ones. Look at the Hera (R.I.P., fine ship, lost to sneaky backstabbing).
To OP, unless ya have a large 0.0 worthy fleet, chances of killings the mom are low. Best bet is to sneak around em via another system. And if you're not in the mood to be popped or just enter a fricken FFA fall all intents and purposes, avoid rancer. If ya have to go through, bring a good sized gang and prep for some pew pew.
My hand is tired. Time for me to shut up and hit "post reply".
o/
And damn, just realized the first part of my post is ironic given my sig. Damn. >.<
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:16:00 -
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Mothership DPS with drones:
Nyx:
6x Templar, 6x Dragonfly, 6x Einherji, 7x Firbolg
total: 3125 UNTAKED DPS with maxed skills
Wyvern (one other random mommy):
Same amount of drones and same type
total 2500 UNTAKED DPS
untaked means with 0% damn resistance
take your conclusions
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Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:19:00 -
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Epic thread.
I guess what you can tank also depends on damage types and sig radius. Most popular fitting tools give the tanked DPS on lowest resist, not highest. You can reduce fighter damage by keeping moving, especially with a propulsion mod, however my understanding is many or all MS pilots use a Domination or Officer web to snag a target for the fighter swarm. Feel free to flame me if I'm wrong. I know this is a polite and gentlemanly thread but you don't need to feel guilty about it, you really don't.
Originally by: RedFall
How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
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Baherroth
Gallente
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:49:00 -
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I do agree with some of you, A Mothership wihout a fleet is very vulnerable and can only instapop weak nontanked ships using smarties, they are easy to kill by dropping cans near it and bumping it to hell and back
webbing, neuting and nossing will kill it easily, a Mothership needs a fleet to kill, like any other capital ship, ofcourse it isnt as easy as interdictor-bubble-spam BUT if you time it right and get the right force, you can easilly kill a lowsec Mothership
BTW
One idea for lowering the advantage a Mothership has, would be to make the Supercapital ships UNALLOWED to fit any Large Smartbomb, Officer OR Faction,t2 etc...and create new Supercapital Smartbombs, that CAN only be fitted on a MS and Titan, BUT use a HELLISH amount of cap, that will remove this "invulnerability" people like to put, just an idea
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2007.09.12 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Amael Galenus on 12/09/2007 14:34:55
Originally by: Baherroth
they are easy to kill by dropping cans near it and bumping it to hell and back
webbing, neuting and nossing will kill it easily, a Mothership needs a fleet to kill
Have you been keeping up with recent patches? Cans, bodies & wrecks are no longer bumpable and nos has been nerfed.
The fleet option is fine in theory but it's going to be nigh on impossible to pull off in low sec as the MS pilot will just cyno out as soon as they see local jump (if they're careful/paranoid... which I would be if I were flying a ship worth that much).
What most people are irked about (I think) is that you have no way of pinning them down in low sec
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Jkrog
Minmatar
Xtreme Fighters
Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2007.09.12 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Icome4u
Edited by: Icome4u on 11/09/2007 20:56:06
Originally by: LemonHamster
Originally by: Icome4u
Edited by: Icome4u on 11/09/2007 20:40:29
GTFO OF THE SYSTEM OR LEAVE THE ******* GAME..
Please, please do, you uninformed ******
Show me ONE goddamn hyperion/abaddon/rokh/maelstrom fit that can tank between 2k-3.1k dps (20 fighters on a maxed out wyvern v 25 fighters on a maxed out nyx respectively). One.
******* idiot.
If you don't know then you deserve to die. I have NEVER lost my Rokh to fighters spam from a Mothership. NEVER. Go play with your third party tools and figure it out yourself, i'm not going to do it for you.
Heck i'v had my Dominix tank 2 Thanatos EASILY. With a good 20+ fighters on me. Only dumbasses and noobs die in big ship vs carriers/motherships.
Edit: Not to mention the drake tanking capabilities. Even after the big nerf (thanks to you noobs) i can still tank hordes of fighters.
Oh and it's not the Mothership you noobs should be afraid of, it's the huge support/guard fleet near it.
First of all, its spelled Newbie, not N00b or whatever you want too call it, its N e w b i e, and secound of all, if you think there are too many Newbies in Lowsec, what on earth are you doing there? Seems like you have been around too much, having too much overpowerness, and on top of that it seems like your arrogance have gone wild. If you need to harash anyone or even call them names, please type it correct instead.
I for one know how annoying Newbies can be, and how they react when they get killed or overrun - they whine, and keep on whining untill they get what they want, it will and have always been like that. And somehow the Devs listen more too the continuesly whiners than the people who have been in the game long and are willing too give out the knowledge they have about the game - and you my dear sir, you indeed do nok look like on of those people who are willing too do so, so why on earth should we even want too listen too you? Stop your blabbering, and accept that the whiners always will win in the whining competition and get the nerfs they want. Sad but true.
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Draug Luin
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:04:00 -
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Barra Cheveyo
Gallente
Stratos Styx
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:04:00 -
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These guys terrorize solitude with three motherships. I've seen them warp in two motherships just to kill a lousy battleship.
Corp: Bermuda Syndrome
Mother Ships: Nyx, Nyx, Wyvern
Wish I had their ISK.
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GoldSnake
omen.
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:09:00 -
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I find it incredibly funny that icome4u seems to be talking like a 'pro' when he/she is in one of the worst alliances in eve, their killboard is abismal. The only reason Omen were ever their is so we could get you to build cap ships for us and screw you over tbh :)
Anyway, motherships in lowsec are a pain i'm sure but its part of eve life, there will always be pirates in any variety of ships, and as far as im aware, there really isnt any tech2 fitted ship (unless its a capital) that can tank the dps of a mothership which has fighters lvl5 and carrier lvl5, yes icome4u, not even your carebeary caldari passive sheild tanks.
So meh, get a scout and get on with it, and if your new to the game, avoid lowsec in the first place?
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Kermis
Caldari
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:28:00 -
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Just buff the gate guns tbh... But let cap ships be able to enter lowsec, I want my safe transport, and that's not hurting anyone...
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Haegr Bjolf
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Adrian Steel
Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Originally by: Icome4u
Edited by: Icome4u on 11/09/2007 20:40:29
I CAN TYPE UTILIZING A CLEVER BLEND OF CAPITAL LETTERS AND ACRONYMS. THE ADDITIONAL EMPHASIS THIS PROVIDES CLEARLY DESIGNATES MY OPINION TO BE FAR MORE ACCURATE THAN YOURS COULD EVER BE, DESPITE MY LACK OF CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE SUPPORTING ANY OF MY INCREASINGLY OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS. THIS ALREADY STUNNING MARVEL OF DEDUCTIVE REASONING IS ONLY FURTHER STRENGTHENED BY MY USE OF DEROGATORY SLANG, WHICH INDICATES THAT YOU ARE CLEARLY WRONG AND THAT IT'S INTELLECTUALLY DOWNHILL, METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, FOR ME TO COMMUNICATE ON YOUR LEVEL.
GTFO NOOB, ROFL, STFU. MOTHERSHIPS ARE ******* FINE, TBH, LOL! NERF WHINERS PLX CCP, KTHX!
Simply gold. I believe that concludes this thread.
Seconded.
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