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r0b0to
NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:10:00 -
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Currently I have 2.7 mil SP, 1 mil in drones and 700k in gunnery. I can use T2 Small/Medium Drones by this weekend, 20 days after that, T2 Ogres. LARII's in a week (Mech 5). Large Hybrid Turret to level 3 in about a day. Large T2 turrets would take a while (lol)
Right now I use a Blaster Myrm with 5 Anode Ions and dual reppers for 0.0 ratting and the occasional pewpewing intruders in alliance space...
I solo most of the time and occasionally go in PvP gangs..
My question is, should I start training for battleships and battleship sized modules now? Or should I keep training BC related skills, like T2 med guns and BC to 5 and stuff. I read something about the Myrmidon getting nerfed and stuff, so I thought of training for a Dominix.. But if I get a Dominix right now, DPS wouldn't be too different, might actually be a bit less on the Domi..
thanks ----------- Myrmipwn |
NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:12:00 -
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Uhm, how can it be less on the domi? I can only see more? =(
It's a matter of taste tbh, Ishtar or domi, but if you want to stay solo droneboat - thats probably the way.
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r0b0to
NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:17:00 -
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I just did EFT stuff.. this is before T2 Drones 400 DPS on the Blaster Myrm 377 DPS on a dual rep Domi (or am i doing it wrong?)
Ishtar looks really nice too.. But does it have enough DPS and tank to rat triple BS spawns?
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EvilSpork
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: EvilSpork on 11/09/2007 23:20:51
Originally by: NoNah Uhm, how can it be less on the domi? I can only see more? =(
It's a matter of taste tbh, Ishtar or domi, but if you want to stay solo droneboat - thats probably the way.
domi will possibly lack guns.. nos/neut?
i would stick with the myrmi 100%. you need support skills. before you go for a BS youll probably want 1million SP in: electronigs, engeneering, nav, and spaceship command.
just work on getting your gunnery and drone support skills up, along with your tanking skills way up. mechanic 5, hull upgrades 5, repair systems 5, armor comp 3 all around.
get your cap skills up, electronics 5 electronics upgrades 5, energy managment 4, energy systems operation 4, etc etc
support skills will make a HUGE differance in how well you do. personally im at 9m SP and im using frigates. i am using T2 frigates, and doing it pretty well now. my next move is toward dictors or cruisers or recons.. in your situation, get your support skills up before you move bigger. maybe even consider moving smaller! like.. start using assault frigs? then move to a HAC, THEN to a BS.
edit: ishtar is a hell of a ship. it will out DPS your myrmi for sure and have a better tank(T2 resists)
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:21:00 -
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You do seem to be doing it wrong, you realize that the myrm have no bonus to weaponry what so ever? The domi does - but only to large. Thus with the same level of battleship and battlecruiser - you'd have the same offensive power before guns.
And using medium guns you'd have the same, using large guns the domi would have a lot more.
Care to share the setups?
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r0b0to
NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:30:00 -
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To-be-Domi setup: 2x LARII kin/therm/exp hardeners DCUII RCU
100MN MWD Heavy Electrochemical Injector X5 Web 2x Cap recharger II
3x Modal Mega Electron
Myrmi 2x MARII exp/kin/therm harderers DCUII
10MN MWD Med Cap booster (electrochemical i think) 2x cap recharger II 1x web
5x med modal ion
both would have 5x Ogre I's fielded at a time
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aUTOKILL
Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:45:00 -
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that domi setup is made of fail, get AWU IV then try to fit all electrons :S ~~~~~~
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adilaNNN
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: adilaNNN on 11/09/2007 23:47:18 i recommend you learn t2 reppers and hardeners then t2 drones then t2 small blasters and t2 med blasters all before you move onto a battleship, since your still a newbie to eve you probably want to save wasting isk on buying battleships as you will only loose them with your amount of SP and knowledge. best bet is get good with myrmidons, they are awesome BC and are no way going to be weaker than other BC! trust me they do pack a punch and always will! just need the right fit and smart gameplay :) maybe after you gain some experience you can move onto battleships.. and isthars can tank bs rat spawns better than a domi :) but ishtars are expensive and very skill intensive
argh just read sporks reply.. thats exactly what you should be doing.. go by sporks reply and you will be more successful :)
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: r0b0to Edited by: r0b0to on 11/09/2007 23:19:42 I just did EFT stuff.. this is before T2 Drones 400 DPS on the Blaster Myrm 377 DPS on a dual rep Domi (or am i doing it wrong?)
Ishtar looks really nice too.. But does it have enough DPS and tank to rat triple BS spawns? and do some gang/gate pvp?
I would guess the guns fell off the domi?
Try putting those back on. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not. |
Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.11 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: adilaNNN Edited by: adilaNNN on 11/09/2007 23:47:18 i recommend you learn t2 reppers and hardeners then t2 drones then t2 small blasters and t2 med blasters all before you move onto a battleship, since your still a newbie to eve you probably want to save wasting isk on buying battleships as you will only loose them with your amount of SP and knowledge. best bet is get good with myrmidons, they are awesome BC and are no way going to be weaker than other BC! trust me they do pack a punch and always will! just need the right fit and smart gameplay :) maybe after you gain some experience you can move onto battleships.. and isthars can tank bs rat spawns better than a domi :) but ishtars are expensive and very skill intensive
argh just read sporks reply.. thats exactly what you should be doing.. go by sporks reply and you will be more successful :)
Assuming the upcoming (in November) change to add drone bandwidth doesn't reduce them to Medium drones. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not. |
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r0b0to
NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.12 04:35:00 -
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I'm aware of the fact that I'm nowhere near "good" yet, two and a half months into the game... I'm also aware of how much Myrmidons own... What I'm worried about is the upcoming nerf on the Myrmidon... the most probable would be to make them just field 4 heavy drones at a time, or make them just have a bonus to medium and light drones..
T2 mediums and scouts I can use by this weekend, then about 20 more days for t2 heavies... Then I plan to start training for an Ishtar.. it's a really attractive ship.. I would set my goals for an Eos, but that would take too long :p... I think around a month and a half or two of training after heavy drones would let me use an Ishtar.. so far I only need: Mechanic 5 (It's already at 4, I need Mech 5 for LARII's anyway) Cruiser 5 (Shouldn't take more than two weeks, it's at 3.5 atm) Engineering 5 (again it's already at 4, it should take around 5-6 days to train) Spaceship Command (again at 4) Weapon Upgrades 5 (between 3 and 4) Assault ships Heavy Assault Ships
So I'll have the skills for an Ishtar in about two months; that's plenty of time to rat and get some iskies.. and that would be just in time for the Myrmidon nerf..
I can already use T2 small hybrids.. I guess around three weeks of training I can use T2 Mediums... I think I'll prioritize getting T2 heavies and and Ishtar first though, so I'll have it before the Myrm gets nerfed. ----------- Myrmipwn |
Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:13:00 -
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I've decided not to train for an Ishtar until I know for sure what the November expansion is going to do do it.
I recommend you assume for now that it's going to be nerfed into uselessness and work on t2 armor tanking for now.
Just plan for the worst and hope for the best. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not. |
r0b0to
NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.12 23:00:00 -
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ok... after scout drone 5 finishes this weekend, should i train mechanic to 5 (6d) first, or heavy drones to 5 (22d), or train for t2 blasters(30?d), or hull upgrades 5(12d)? ----------- Myrmipwn |
Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.09.13 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/09/2007 01:11:20
Originally by: Xaen I've decided not to train for an Ishtar until I know for sure what the November expansion is going to do do it.
I recommend you assume for now that it's going to be nerfed into uselessness and work on t2 armor tanking for now.
Just plan for the worst and hope for the best.
But, Gallente Cruiser V also enables you to fly Lachersis/Arazu with some support skills, and they are really great. Plus, the Ishtar can do very well even with mediums. It deals a ton of damage, and there's no chance of it really running out of drones. WU V you need anyway, for whatever you're flying.
Plus, you get to use the Deimos. And your T1 thorax is going to rule even more ;)
Oh, by the way, the Ishtar can definitely kill 0.0 BS. A max-damage setup Wolf does it slowly but surely with it's meager 200 DPS (using T1 ammo).
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Heartcarver
X Bane X
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Posted - 2007.09.13 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: r0b0to ok... after scout drone 5 finishes this weekend, should i train mechanic to 5 (6d) first, or heavy drones to 5 (22d), or train for t2 blasters(30?d), or hull upgrades 5(12d)?
Personally I think Id finish those learning skills and get +3-+4 implants ^^
"The point of war isn't to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his" |
r0b0to
NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.13 05:22:00 -
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yeah I had a full set of +3 implants from grinding lvl 3's podded.
now i only have a +3 in memory i think.. i can't really grind missions atm because of md-k wardeccing us :\ ----------- Myrmipwn |
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