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Gingerlo
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:27:00 -
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but still you love to STEAL peoples ISK :), that means your a THIEF. Well I dont care I didnt lose 1 bil but I only lost 500 mil, so dont lie to peoples.
After that if stealing makes you happy, go steal your boss, one day youll pay for everything :) I dont care what you write now. Its a game
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:46:00 -
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Playing the "bad guy" in a game and not letting it leave the game = Good
Playing the "victim" when you're buying ingame money for RL cash = Bad.
Good going man, keep it up -
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Zerolaws
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:13:00 -
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All the things DECKERX says is false. He is simply lying, accusing because he know he is brutally guilty and not right. One more case for him.
Every word about this was logged and currently provided to game masters. I will be supplying all the details including my state to the public after the petition.
Setting aside my hurt pride or any egos, I am putting all this here just because of my intentions of preventing such things like happening to other people and to act as a real life example when you dont read forums, try to learn, talk with people, then **** happens :))
It is not sufficient to put your trust blindly. It is your responsibilty to clealrly assess and then give your trust to someone who is worthy of it. I know :))
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1Evildude
Gallente Kingdom of Kador
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zerolaws All the things DECKERX says is false. He is simply lying, accusing because he know he is brutally guilty and not right. One more case for him.
Every word about this was logged and currently provided to game masters. I will be supplying all the details including my state to the public after the petition.
Setting aside my hurt pride or any egos, I am putting all this here just because of my intentions of preventing such things like happening to other people and to act as a real life example when you dont read forums, try to learn, talk with people, then **** happens :))
It is not sufficient to put your trust blindly. It is your responsibilty to clealrly assess and then give your trust to someone who is worthy of it. I know :))
I'm completly on your side! Don't you just hate people that scam, or kill people without a reason. Or people running around with low sececurity status.......
I will help you as much as I can, send me the money for the snake implants and the Nyx and I'll go buy them for you......
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Syndicus
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Syndicus on 23/09/2007 12:10:54 HhahAHha DeckerX, you win Eve.
I take back those bad things I thought of you. I totally bought into everything the scammer said about you.
You are right about reputation, now you have to repair it.
Awesome job screwing the scammer. Way to go.
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Disasemble
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:28:00 -
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Best thread I've read on many a game forum.
Just been browsing and came across 2 threads accusing DeckerX of being a liar and a thief and in both cases his only defense is "Yes I am!"... fantastic, bless you for making me giggle and try to remember to keep breathing.
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Zerolaws
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: 1Evildude
Originally by: Zerolaws All the things DECKERX says is false. He is simply lying, accusing because he know he is brutally guilty and not right. One more case for him.
Every word about this was logged and currently provided to game masters. I will be supplying all the details including my state to the public after the petition.
Setting aside my hurt pride or any egos, I am putting all this here just because of my intentions of preventing such things like happening to other people and to act as a real life example when you dont read forums, try to learn, talk with people, then **** happens :))
It is not sufficient to put your trust blindly. It is your responsibilty to clealrly assess and then give your trust to someone who is worthy of it. I know :))
I'm completly on your side! Don't you just hate people that scam, or kill people without a reason. Or people running around with low sececurity status.......
I will help you as much as I can, send me the money for the snake implants and the Nyx and I'll go buy them for you......
Man, this Nyx thing is just another one of his lies. see part of the log script below; It was he trying to get my attraction into something like that I have told him "no, not in my dreams", how does this makes me a buyer of Nyx ? hahahahaha :))) poor sick guy that Deckerx is ... no hate on my side, buy justice has and will prevail ...
thanks for taking notice ... fly safe you all
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Zerolaws
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:42:00 -
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here is part of the log script
[ 2007.09.22 13:42:51 ] Deckerx > u know what a titan is [ 2007.09.22 13:43:06 ] Zerolaws > yeah I watched some video and yeah I know it :) [ 2007.09.22 13:43:18 ] Deckerx > you ever want to fly one [ 2007.09.22 13:43:39 ] Zerolaws > hehehe, yeah in my dreams maybe [ 2007.09.22 13:43:50 ] Deckerx > that is my ultimate goal [ 2007.09.22 13:43:55 ] Deckerx > i have the bpo to build them [ 2007.09.22 13:44:03 ] Deckerx > but kinda looking to sell it [ 2007.09.22 13:44:13 ] Deckerx > boguht it for 40b long time ago [ 2007.09.22 13:44:37 ] Zerolaws > :) in fact I like the killer shark role, more freelancer type. I dont even consider capital ships currentlşy. Maybe next year or so, I dont know ... [ 2007.09.22 13:44:39 ] Deckerx > looking to sell it (need isk badly if you want it or no someone how wants it i will sell for 10b [ 2007.09.22 13:45:09 ] Zerolaws > umm I got that, a Titan for 10b, on sale, [ 2007.09.22 13:45:12 ] Deckerx > buy it for 30b less [ 2007.09.22 13:45:42 ] Zerolaws > then why do you sell it at least under 25b [ 2007.09.22 13:45:54 ] Zerolaws > I mean over 225b [ 2007.09.22 13:46:08 ] Deckerx > no one seems to want the damn thing [ 2007.09.22 13:46:16 ] Zerolaws > ooops [ 2007.09.22 13:46:18 ] Deckerx > or more (no one has the isk to buy it) [ 2007.09.22 13:46:33 ] Deckerx > most people dont have 10b isk [ 2007.09.22 13:46:42 ] Zerolaws > yeah I can see that [ 2007.09.22 13:47:06 ] Deckerx > ****zzz id probably sell it cheaper than 10b (if i could get the isk now) [ 2007.09.22 13:47:39 ] Deckerx > end up making someone rich in the long run
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Zerolaws
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Disasemble Best thread I've read on many a game forum.
Just been browsing and came across 2 threads accusing DeckerX of being a liar and a thief and in both cases his only defense is "Yes I am!"... fantastic, bless you for making me giggle and try to remember to keep breathing.
haahahaaaaa :))) yeah, this thing really turned out to be funny. I really plan to write it down all, just waiting for approval of releasing records. Maybe it will be fixed without coming to that. Then I will be sorry because I want to realase it to puıblic and share. But not because of hate but its a bestseller story :))
I just have to transcript the log, not adding anything to the story, since it is a real sit story on its own. I liked it, very educative and supportive ... I'd recommend it when its out :))
thx for differentiating, dealing and enjoying fun.
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Deckerx
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:56:00 -
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Nice work man (those are good looking fake logs) lol anyways im not going to respond to your badgering anymore waste of time. Its like dealing with a 10 year old (grow up a little man). Anyways im pretty sure all the forums spamming you have done in all the other forums will get you kicked, if not try to take a chill pill. 1 last thing
p.s. thanks for the putting the 250m bounty on my head (had my friend pod me and give me the isk) not very smart are we ehhhh?
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx Edited by: Deckerx on 23/09/2007 10:18:20 First off his main is weaVern, which is a 20 or so day old noob i asked if this was his first account he swore it was . He bought my character for 8m sp industrial character for 3.5b isk which is way over priced, and gave me the first hint this guy was isk buyer.
Amusing how, if he tries to sell you a BPO for over what you consider a fair market value, you say he's skimming you. But the other way around, he's an isk buyer.
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waferzankko
Bears Inc FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 16:44:00 -
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i scamed Deckerx for 10isk one time.
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Ula Ofaenur
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Posted - 2007.09.23 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ula O****ur on 23/09/2007 21:15:06 oh NOES!!!! my ships on fire.... I is dying....
Please help me zerolaws!.!.!.!
besides zerolaw didnt you promise to forgive the isk & even reimburse us for our losses if we sent you kill mail which was done yesterday.... do to youre dishonesty in the matter i assume not to hold my breath waiting to be compinsated for a lost Prowler lol
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Overseer Goth
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Posted - 2007.09.24 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx this is where we differ in opinion! i feel that if a product is on market for a price you make a valid choice and the prices are regulated by competition. what he was trying to do may be valid (but morally wrong and not adventageous to the seller or buyer) or himself. As a crued business man my goal is to make both if not at least 1 of the people im serving a return customer and happy. By buying extremly low and having greed to make a killing he screwed himself and deserved it and on top of that he had carroll set the contract directly to deckerx. he literal told me he was going to make 4b off me, because he could. Its not a question of correct dynamics it a question of moral fortitude and questionable business practices. He is a scum ball and has been know to be a scammer i knew this when he contract me.
Leaving out any attempt he may have made to discredit you to the GMs regarding the time card thing.....how are you any less a scumball? This in no way is name calling, but rather a question as to what higher moral ground do you stand on by taking his isk from him as he had planned on doing?
As I see it, buying and selling is a way of life in game. While he was planning on making an exorbatant amount from the exchange, it was not overly immoral, just greedy. Your action on the other hand gained you a profit while the other party got nothing in return...it seems a bt more harsh to me then his actions were.
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Rilder
Caldari THC LTD Dogs of War.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rilder on 24/09/2007 03:27:37 Scamming is legal in EvE and as far as reputation goes, I bet Deckerx is getting even more good reputation as this thread goes...
If you want me to see your way Zerolaws you will have to send me 1 Billion isk.
My opinions are like mercs, the highest price wins \o/. --
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Danno
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.09.24 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Overseer Goth
This in no way is name calling, but rather a question as to what higher moral ground do you stand on by taking his isk from him as he had planned on doing?
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prehaps you could consider the fact his replies are generally a response, as opposed to teh OP's which were an attempt to defame.
On balancing... sure Deckerx's wasnt the straight up and honest way to have responded but i believe the case he was making was the OP is also crooked (in many ways).
all in all the OPs seems to be a rule breaker/game ruiner (in ways decker mentioned) and bitter enough to try get him banned with false accusations - despite him claiming no hate feelings, whilst deckerx did nothing "illegal" .
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Calldurha
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Posted - 2007.09.24 08:44:00 -
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I'm a newbee and learning about EVE, such posts help people like us. Scamming may be allowed in the game but it's probably because it shows intelligence and charisma
As far as I can see from the posts this Deckerx is all out primitive and bad. When he promises to do something openly and then dont do it and feel pride in doing so and saying it openly, this is not intelligence but a feeding vampire on peoples' trust. Because this is way too easy then trying to be a man. I dont think deckerx is a real man also in real life and he doesnt have any more worth then the drgseller in the next corner. Leave the psycho filth to its own, he already lives in hell and belong there.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.24 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Calldurha I'm a newbee and learning about EVE, such posts help people like us. Scamming may be allowed in the game but it's probably because it shows intelligence and charisma
As far as I can see from the posts this Deckerx is all out primitive and bad. When he promises to do something openly and then dont do it and feel pride in doing so and saying it openly, this is not intelligence but a feeding vampire on peoples' trust. Because this is way too easy then trying to be a man. I dont think deckerx is a real man also in real life and he doesnt have any more worth then the drgseller in the next corner. Leave the psycho filth to its own, he already lives in hell and belong there.
Ooooo alt post methinks :) Only idiots get scammed in eve. If someone said to you "give me lots of money and ill promise ill come back later and return it" in real life there is no way you would hand over the cash.
I think scammers in eve are doing a public service by teaching people these valuable life lessons.
Firkragg
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.09.24 09:39:00 -
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Well.. Chatlogs are teh ultimate evidence, surely you did nothing wrong..
[ 2007.09.22 13:43:06 ] Zerolaws > yeah I bought like 242 trillion isk with my fat irl wallet :) [ 2007.09.22 13:43:18 ] Strife Phoenix the chatlogeditor > OMGH4XX!
ACERBUS-VINDICTUM - Revelare Pecunia! |
Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.24 09:44:00 -
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Heh, good going.
Although I think the justification for the first one is a little weak. If I offer to sell a dominix for 30 mil, a savy trader might go "sure" and plan to resell it for its true market value. I do not think that trader is a scammer.
That said, I do tend to buy and resell with small margins and aim for volume, but that is mainly because I hate modifying orders. If they can get better margin than me through superior skills or buying power, Id like to know after a day or so of competing rather than weeks.
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Will Strafe
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Posted - 2007.09.24 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx (So he was trying to do business and you stole from him?)
No sir you must understand that eve is a community of honor and respect. Rep is more important in this game than anything else some might say. I have always believed in keeping my honor solid and not to do under handed shady things. For a person to try to buy a item for 8b and sell it directly to me for 12b is wrong on alot of different levels, as a business person (right on the level with used car sales man). So since he showed me ZERO respect and have not a decent bone yea i took advantage of him before he could take advantage of me or another person (maybe i thought him a little leason)... If he had wanted to sell me the bpo for 9b or maybe even 10b ..... it would have still be a good deal for me and him. And i would have told him he convoed my other character, but becuase he was trying to screw me out of isk, by charging a giant imflated price. He deserved any and everything he got. The End
If that was the end and this was IRL you would be put in jail...
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Xeronn
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Posted - 2007.09.24 12:19:00 -
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yay DekerX you just made my day , sweet move!!!
you didn`t even scam the poor fool , it was a legit game mechanic operation , that`s it...he handed you the isk and you chosed to keep it
why oh why does EvE have such a complex market and trade system , unseen in any other MMO , designed and refined to make trading a real job and insure that you can NOT use game mechanics to scam people IF the people just spend 10 minutes of there lives to actually READ the messages on the screen , go to the ingame tutorials or hell ask someone if in any doubt about what`s going on , if he should/should not accept a deal...
so if you decided to had someone the isk just like that ... and TRUST he`ll actually keep his word...oh well i`ll avoid rough words and i`ll just say both of you are rolplayers , you RP a really dumb mindless amarr slave and DeckerX RP`s a ruthless caldari businessman
to end this , great job there DeckerX , hopefully an isk buyer less in the galaxy , a small step but it`s a start...someone haul this guy`s stuff to WoW for free please
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Calldurha
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Posted - 2007.09.24 13:36:00 -
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on second thought, maybe this Deckerx is putting up all this
he sold that character to someone else and then he scams back this character ? am i right ? then someone is putting a bounty on him but a friend of Deckerx podkills him and hands over the bounty to him ? what a story
and all the pity and blame goes to the poor dumb character but deckerx has an increased reputation and a free advertisement ride through the channels even the ops are feeling obliged to stop any spamming and post messages on other forums regarding deckerx scamming issues
i dont know but this looks more and more like a photoop by deckerx to me .. this guy looks like he has such an opportunistic and twisted mind
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Splash Whale
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.24 14:29:00 -
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Hahahaha, Deckerx, you're awesome man!
Props to the isk buyers for getting it to the forums, you guy's either just didnt think about it or have gut's.
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Saint Luka
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 14:57:00 -
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With the threads that already exist about this person (which i have not read) it would not surprise me if this was created by an alt of his for epeen fame -
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Deckerx
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.24 16:25:00 -
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you guys give me way to much credit. I know it hard to believe that there are actually nubs out there this stupid. Well im here to confirm that there are. The person who bought my account zerolaws is just such a person.
Btw someone else brought something else to my attention, if his story is that he has many old eve playing friends to gave him this isk and he didnt buy it. Then why didnt he ask them how to use the market, or just have them buy it from him. Why did he have to convo me, I ask???????? becuase he is a nub and has no idea about what eve is.
Zerolaws / weavern PLEASE GO BACK TO WOW.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Deckerx you guys give me way to much credit. I know it hard to believe that there are actually nubs out there this stupid. Well im here to confirm that there are. The person who bought my account zerolaws is just such a person.
Btw someone else brought something else to my attention, if his story is that he has many old eve playing friends to gave him this isk and he didnt buy it. Then why didnt he ask them how to use the market, or just have them buy it from him. Why did he have to convo me, I ask???????? becuase he is a nub and has no idea about what eve is.
Zerolaws / weavern PLEASE GO BACK TO WOW.
You might end up going to WoW if that was not just a figure of speach. :)
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Dinwiddy Snurdle
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.09.24 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dinwiddy Snurdle on 24/09/2007 18:41:06
Originally by: Deckerx At this point there is no challenge this kid is buying isk and we all know it. So what do i do i tell him buying isk is unfair to the rest of the community and that im gonna take his isk and donate it to my corp mates and such. He got angry and very upset.
So you're convinced all the isk he sent you was bought?
You tell him its "unfair to the rest of the community" to buy isk and then proceed to spend that illegal isk and also give it to your friends?
If you knew it was bought isk like you claim, and feel its unfair to the "community" for people to do that kind of thing you should of...
A. petioned him, or B. donated every last isk of it to an NPC corp to remove it from the game
So expect to lose it if the GM's investigate (as the OP claims they're doing).
oh and...
Originally by: Deckerx you guys give me way to much credit. I know it hard to believe that there are actually nubs out there this stupid. Well im here to confirm that there are. The person who bought my account zerolaws is just such a person.
Originally by: Deckerx Edited by: Deckerx on 24/09/2007 18:28:29 Edited by: Deckerx on 24/09/2007 18:27:29 you guys give me way to much credit. I know it hard to believe that there are actually nubs out there this stupid. Well im here to confirm that there are. The person who Traded me isk for my account zerolaws is just such a person.
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2007.09.24 20:22:00 -
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Neither of you have any concept of "ethics" at all.
Scamming a scammer before he scams you is called circumstantial evidence, and wouldn't hold up in any court of law, so you are as guilty of scamming as he is of selling isk.
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Zerolaws
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Posted - 2007.09.24 20:24:00 -
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--- Bottomline : -----------------------------------------
Game masters have responded to my petition request as;
- scamming is allowed in game mechanics and not prevented unless there is illegal isk involved - a reinbursement does not seem to be an option in this case
So this makes me only stupid enough to trust people and left Deckerx with his own admittance of his being a scammer, a thief, an opportunist, an unbrave trader with no rules. You can also clearly see it from the name of this character that he had sold me before
And for the records and for all the people who took notice in this issue, as you know, usually noobs does not have billions to throw around
I was doing business with a fellow and I also wanted to prosper more and skill&powerup in order to be able to play with them and I was trying to find some items that maybe found on 0.0. They found me worthy and trusted me enough so supplied the credits for the items. So I thought to hire a hand from those places instead of going there myself (it was just a thought that seemed clever then :) not anymore ...
and then what happened ?
I will be releasing some log records that interested souls may see how this clown gets one or two of his friends into a chat session and them playing a scenario such that suddenly they were attacked and one by one they have been podkilled and ohmigod please please guys ! save zerolaws items ! oh no ! we are all killed .... hahahahahahaha Quite a show for a few billions, I have to admit they earn it with this show. so they have lost my items and their ships etc etc etc.
Then he talks for all day, now that he is pennyless and no ship, all whatchamigonnado stuff, please dont hate me ... That is, until my friend whose ISKs was lost, talked to him. I am very lucky and grateful to my friends that they did not accuse me of stealing their ISKS with such a scenario from them. At least the scammer is well known right now. And his whereabouts and the deals that he does. He tells me that he is doing this item transporting deals all the time and very adept at that and carry very valuable stuff always around. Someone'll see, I guess ..
But interestingly, I had told Deckerx all about this, he knews the source of this isk that I have transferred to him regarding the deal, from the beginning, all thoroughly logged. Here, he tries to accuse me as an ISK buyer and just trying his chance with OPs about this since he knews well that his scam will not go unpunished, IMHO. And the only reason why he does it is that he doesnt want me to share it with people here on the forums. He had already threatened me more than once not to do it. So he tries to shut me up or ban or block my posts about him which I had taken the liberty to do so since I wanted people to know and take caution about this cheap scammer.
So, some of you may find me and call me this or that, I care or I dont care, I will choose which but this is the story
beware of Deckerx the Scammer, guys
yours Zerolaws the Stupid
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