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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2007.09.16 18:54:00 -
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First of all, I am not a happy camper. I have played eve for 20 months... and learned to live the addage "adapt and overcome", .........in fact, all I HAVE done in this game is "adapt and overcome". I am still waiting to play it... In this 20 months, practically every ship or play style that I have aimed at and trained for has been successively NERFED into oblivion and uselessness.
Now the latest is the so-called "Stealth" Bomber... They really need to rename it the NON-Stealth Bomber now, or better yet, just call it a NON-Stealth Ship, because without the ability to recloak after it fires, it can't bomb anything! Considering that the SB is paper thin to begin with and is destroyed with one hit, since it relied on it's "stealth" for defense, one has to wonder what the idiot Developer that came up with this nerf was thinking.
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.09.16 18:55:00 -
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err when hasnt it been this way? _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Tony Tagetes
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Posted - 2007.09.16 18:56:00 -
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lol quit already
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2007.09.16 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ira Theos on 16/09/2007 19:00:41 Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my undestanding that in the last patch, they changed the way the SB works... Now when you fire missiles, you can't recloak before they hit or they don't work....... no damage to target.
Before, you could fire and cloak. At least, that was my understanding.
This change completely negates what a SB is.... it's whole defense depended on cloaking... it has no shield, no armor and no hull.... so now it is a one shot wonder.
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2007.09.16 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tony Tagetes lol quit already
******* Actually, nerfo-rama has made me consider quitting.
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Sarah McTeef
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Posted - 2007.09.16 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ira Theos
Originally by: Tony Tagetes lol quit already
******* Actually, nerfo-rama has made me consider quitting.
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Asestorian
Minmatar Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.16 19:28:00 -
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I really don't see what's wrong here. They are still stealth ships, because they can cloak properly. The missiles thing is just bringing it into line with everything else. Missiles aren't supposed to hit if you lose your lock on a target.
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slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.16 19:41:00 -
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you need to work out how to fit it properly.
and did you see the recent eve tournament?
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Senator Martin'Lefouret
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Posted - 2007.09.16 19:46:00 -
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you could never fire and cloak and do damage to my knowledge, all you could do was get vlose enough so the missiles hit and deal damage before the target could do something back, they actualy made the stelthbombers better in last patches.... unfortunatly they are still useless
quote from allaince member: i had better flown a shuttle on this op then a sb
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 19:47:00 -
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I was pretty POed when the US Air Force told me that you can't cloak their Stealth Bomber AT ALL.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Thundercat Doom
Minmatar Melissa Jumpclones INC
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Posted - 2007.09.16 19:57:00 -
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I never have been able to cloak immediately after firing off some missiles from my Manticore because then the missiles wouldn't hit and do damage. I think your so called nerf was never a nerf because there wasn't a nerf to begin with. --------------------
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ira Theos First of all, I am not a happy camper. I have played eve for 20 months... and learned to live the addage "adapt and overcome", .........in fact, all I HAVE done in this game is "adapt and overcome". I am still waiting to play it... In this 20 months, practically every ship or play style that I have aimed at and trained for has been successively NERFED into oblivion and uselessness.
Now the latest is the so-called "Stealth" Bomber... They really need to rename it the NON-Stealth Bomber now, or better yet, just call it a NON-Stealth Ship, because without the ability to recloak after it fires, it can't bomb anything! Considering that the SB is paper thin to begin with and is destroyed with one hit, since it relied on it's "stealth" for defense, one has to wonder what the idiot Developer that came up with this nerf was thinking.
your just not using it right ------------------------------------------------ ya cant stop the rokh and no i have not nor will i ever contribute anything constructive to your threa |
Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ira Theos
Originally by: Tony Tagetes lol quit already
******* Actually, nerfo-rama has made me consider quitting.
an i have your stuff? especially your stealth bomber since you cant use it properly ------------------------------------------------ ya cant stop the rokh and no i have not nor will i ever contribute anything constructive to your threa |
Giatshi
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Posted - 2007.09.16 20:09:00 -
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i havent tried,havent actually seen this asked or answered
What happens if you are using FoF cruise missiles,and recloak after firing,do they also do no damage?
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Korad Konstentyn
The Genyosha Society
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Posted - 2007.09.16 20:10:00 -
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remembering I'd heard something about this mentioned in a recent dev blog... I logged into SiSi..
where some brief 'testing' (aka: going up and shooting the first Dread I run into) in my Nemesis.. seems to indicate that on the test server, you *can* cloak immediately after missile launch and still do damage.
so hold your horses, good things are a-coming. The Dev's have said on multiple times that they arent happy with the role SB's have currently. Nerfed? how is an entirely new weapons system, and *all* SB's getting 3x launcher slots, a nerf.
(though, CCP if you'd be so good as to move that 5th useless hislot on my Nemesis and make it a third lowslot... I'd be eternally grateful..)
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Tzt
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Posted - 2007.09.16 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tzt on 16/09/2007 20:25:11 you still have the ability to fire immediately after decloaking and the ability to hit frigates with battleship sized weapons, but yeah, having to remain uncloaked for a potentially long time in a ship with less HP than a t1 frigate is somewhat frisky, espeically if you can't cloak when someone has a lock on you (and they almost certainly will have by then) if i recall?
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Jotan Veer
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.09.16 20:34:00 -
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/GM Nova voice on
The Manticore is a lovely frigate!
/GM Nova voice off
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Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.16 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ira Theos Before, you could fire and cloak. At least, that was my understanding.
No you could never do that. Stealth bombers have been improved, not nerfed, they now got one more launcher slot which means more firepower. It is paper thin, but use some dampeners to not get popped.
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Radioactive Babe
Red Frost
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Posted - 2007.09.16 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sicil Fioet
Originally by: Ira Theos Before, you could fire and cloak. At least, that was my understanding.
No you could never do that. Stealth bombers have been improved, not nerfed, they now got one more launcher slot which means more firepower. It is paper thin, but use some dampeners to not get popped.
Indeed, whatever crap the OP has in his mids he needs to get rid of it and fit dampners ... and do some damn testing so you know they lock range of your target when they have two or more dampners on them....
Oh and bring all your friends in SB's as well (with a couple of them fitting warp disruptors as well as dampners)
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Dorah Hawkwing
Chosen Path FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 22:04:00 -
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My purifier has a lot moe armor than a T1 frigate... the lovely thing about a good grid.
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oodin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.16 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt I was pretty POed when the US Air Force told me that you can't cloak their Stealth Bomber AT ALL.
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Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 17/09/2007 01:05:48 The SB was never a solo "OMGWTFPWN"mobile anyway. the entire point of it is to engage targets it can one-shot instantly and painlessly, and then slip away. it's the solo assassin of EVE, appearing just long enough to hand out the pain, then vanishing again.
In other words, this nerf shouldn't be an issue for a competent SB pilot because if they're doing it right, the target will be too dead to shoot back, rendering the need to cloak irrelevant.
bear in mind, however, that the only things it can really hope to deal with that quickly are frigates and industrials. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.09.17 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: oodin
Originally by: An Anarchyyt I was pretty POed when the US Air Force told me that you can't cloak their Stealth Bomber AT ALL.
me too
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.09.17 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sarah McTeef
Originally by: Ira Theos
Originally by: Tony Tagetes lol quit already
******* Actually, nerfo-rama has made me consider quitting.
You walked right into this one... Can I have your stuff?
For that matter: can i have your char? /me is already drooling at the skills for every fotm ship that that char has trained --- Free exotic dancers for mods that mod my sig
*Snip* Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -Yipsilanti ([email protected]) <-- freebie for you |
Mad Amos
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Posted - 2007.09.17 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Korad Konstentyn remembering I'd heard something about this mentioned in a recent dev blog... I logged into SiSi..
where some brief 'testing' (aka: going up and shooting the first Dread I run into) in my Nemesis.. seems to indicate that on the test server, you *can* cloak immediately after missile launch and still do damage.
so hold your horses, good things are a-coming. The Dev's have said on multiple times that they arent happy with the role SB's have currently. Nerfed? how is an entirely new weapons system, and *all* SB's getting 3x launcher slots, a nerf.
(though, CCP if you'd be so good as to move that 5th useless hislot on my Nemesis and make it a third lowslot... I'd be eternally grateful..)
Orly? A moment while I pray. "Oh gods of CCP please make this so."
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FaintGhost
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Posted - 2007.09.17 01:44:00 -
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well i do know that orignaly, if you were within 40 ish KM of your target you could recloak straight after firing (tested and used in combat) and the missiles would still do dmg. anything more then that and they wouldn't but this was Rev1, dunno if they've changed it tho :/. But yea ppl are right, it isnt a problem for a correctly fitted ship, Damps 4tw!!
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Reven Darklight
256 FREELANCERS Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2007.09.17 02:08:00 -
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I think the bomb launcher might be rather useful too on a SB, especially if you use the lock dampining bomb, not sure what its called, but i presume its a decent thing to use if it stops people locking on with a 15km radius
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Bigeasy
Caldari Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.17 02:19:00 -
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I believe that main weapon of the stealth bomber is no longer the cruise missiles. I believe the purpose is to decloak, fire off your bombs, recloak, then use your missiles to pick off any remaining hostiles.
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spanky herman
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Posted - 2007.09.17 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt I was pretty POed when the US Air Force told me that you can't cloak their Stealth Bomber AT ALL.
Forget the OP's stuff or your I want their stuff please, can a MOAB fit into a VW micro bus?
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Tassadar Beta
Amarr BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.17 03:42:00 -
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The only thing I would like my stealth bomber to have is the ability to warp while cloaked and I'm not even that bothered by that. Aside from that they are fine as they are. |
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