Heidi Engineswat
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Posted - 2007.09.17 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Heidi Engineswat on 17/09/2007 19:21:03
 Originally by: Celeste Coeval
Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 17/09/2007 19:05:09
lmao emo? me? hahahahahhaha couldn't be further from the truth. Just because i consider things greater than myself and try to make life choices based on that knowledge doesnt make me an emo. As for moping, why mope when one can read, converse, take in the world around you. I have but one life on this earth and moping does not rank particularly high on my list of things to do  An attack on my character does not divert from the fact that you havent done anything to counter my statement, nor have you presented anything in evidence to prove me wrong.
Your suggestions about corporations designing solutions to the worlds issues border on idiocy. Corporations got us into this mess doing what corporations do, externalize. If corporate entities can first address externalizing economic choices, i believe the corporate form can bring about a survival of the oil age and beyond. Whilst the corporate form is not answerable to its externalities, the status quo will not change and beyond oil, we will run out of something else.
For those who do not know what an externality is I shall explain.
When a corporation develops and manufactures a car, they do not take certain economic factors into account. Car manufacturers are not road layers. So in order to drive a car on a road someone else has to make the economic investment to build it, ie YOU. The byproducts from the manufacture process and the fuel usage and the disposal of the eventual entropy laiden car are all externalized economic costs, as the car manufacturer lets someone else pick up the tab.
Entering a debate which I think I can contribute to, does not make me an emo. I consider myself to be a logical, balanced individual that has an active interest in the world around me. But hey lets discuss emo's instead of the serious issue, cause we all love a good ***** at some part of society we've pigeonholed intangibly.
dude creating something without externalizing is nigh on impossible. everyone knows this. that still doesnt change the fact that corporate and personal invention has changed mankind for the better. I agree that it creates about the same level of strife as it does happiness, but as a whole we are a lot better off now then we were braining each other in with our fists and eating raw meat while howling at the lightning.
In the end there is always someone who picks up the tab, something that will never change. We are currently debating about this on PCs made by chinese folks who barely get paid enough to by a house: one that their government will take away at a whim. This does not make the PC something bad or loathsome.
Also, the corps that got us in the mess, got us out of it in the first place. You see this every day in EVE itself; as a single entity you cannot maintain a starbase, in a corp you can. as a group people achieve more than as individuals.
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