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eagletalon
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:11:00 -
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I do a lot of missions with my two accounts lvl 1,II,III and I must say some of what the agents give you as reward are crap . How about giving you points or something and then you would redeem them against something you really wanted . the points have an equivilient value in isks that you redeem on the market . I konw it will never happen but the more people I talk too the more agree with me .
Now all I have to do is sell my 75 shuttles
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Astrid Tron on 18/02/2004 11:16:55 Goodwill-points is no bad idea. 'I really want that Thorax, Mr Agent, can u help me out? U kinda owe me - we go way back, man...'
'Well Mr. Agentrunner, let me see if we can work out something. We do make them Thorax's, and I think I can get you a special price. You being a loyal support, and all.'
PS: I'll buy your Shuttles - evemail me ingame with an offer, and we can work out a price. --------------------------------------------- When you have to kill a man, it takes nothing to be polite |
Mina
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:19:00 -
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Agents have ruiner the Shuttle market... that is all i will say :P
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:12:00 -
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Quote: I do a lot of missions with my two accounts lvl 1,II,III and I must say some of what the agents give you as reward are crap . How about giving you points or something and then you would redeem them against something you really wanted . the points have an equivilient value in isks that you redeem on the market . I konw it will never happen but the more people I talk too the more agree with me .
A token given to you by the agent in recompense for the effort you have undertaken on their behalf? Commonly known as Isk in the EVE universe, I think, unless you have in mind 'special' items which are not available anywhere else.
Cirle
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Viduus
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:02:00 -
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I do like this idea though. It would be a good starting point for other things. f.ex. item, cash equivalent, or "points" towards non-market items... there of course are problems --> how would you select the item you want? A drop-down? How much load would that put on the servers? What about exploitability? How do you determine point value for items, or point-plus-isk values?
But like I said, definitely worth exploring. It gets my vote.
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:23:00 -
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A token given to you by the agent in recompense for the effort you have undertaken on their behalf? Commonly known as Isk in the EVE universe, I think, unless you have in mind 'special' items which are not available anywhere else.
Cirle
What was meant, was an alternative timebonus, not an alternative reward - at least that is what I made of it... --------------------------------------------- When you have to kill a man, it takes nothing to be polite |
Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Wraeththu on 18/02/2004 22:20:41 I think what you're talking about is the black market system, especially in regards to the agent's standing applying to whether or not you can talk to him and what he sells.
Think of it like certain hidden merchants in old RPGs who wouldn't talk to you till some point in the game.
As for 'redeption points', we already have a script system. it's ISK
A bunch of us have suggested a few times though, of having a "cash out in ISK" option though, like most US prizes. Where they give you a portion of the market value (like 60%) in cash. That would at least help those people who work for corps that only sell shuttles and 2 other trade goods. -- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2004.02.19 03:48:00 -
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well, its true we have ISK, but if you were able to buy implants/components with it no-one would bother doing missions anymore beyond what they needed for standing.
if they gave out for example 1 point per agent level per mission (perhaps a bit more for very hard ones) and then set a price in points on components, implants etc it would simultaneously remove the problem of useless rewards, give people greater satisfaction because you could choose the items you need and leave the things you dont and if I'm not mistaken help keep down the server/database load a bit since someone with a 300 points would probably take less space/time than someone with up to thousands of up to hundreds of items sat about in hangers (plus wouldn't need to work up a random reward for every single mission .. just give a generic point) It would also as a by-product remove the reason to turn down every mission that doesn't give a nice item .. since every mission helps you get nice items . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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NoNamium
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Posted - 2004.02.19 07:19:00 -
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I'm all for this too if it means a "black-market system" or otherwise non-market items.
sure hope that someone from CCP sees this :)
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2004.02.19 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Chai N'Dorr on 19/02/2004 08:42:39
You get points, it's called isk and it buys anything you want.
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ERGONOMIC
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Posted - 2004.02.19 12:59:00 -
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Where are the girls ? i have the isk
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2004.02.19 14:58:00 -
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Supposedly they are in here. Can't confirm that, but I am sure that you'll be let in with a fat wallet
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Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.02.19 16:13:00 -
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Quote: Supposedly they are in here. Can't confirm that, but I am sure that you'll be let in with a fat wallet
Oh.. they are.. and me too -- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
Naal Morno
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Posted - 2004.02.19 18:10:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Chai N'Dorr on 19/02/2004 08:42:39
You get points, it's called isk and it buys anything you want.
Please read the thread again... Gripe is not with not getting ISKs but about 'rewards', eg. useless krap. If I could elect to get points instead of these and then get say implant with 100 points, I would be more than thrilled for this feature to be in.
Anyhow, I guess we will not see that in ever, so it is nice to dream. Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 660.4 damage.
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2004.02.20 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Chai N'Dorr on 20/02/2004 10:37:46
I'll read again...
Quote: How about giving you points or something and then you would redeem them against something you really wanted
Gosh... it's still there, didn't change at all. I get points (isk) from my Agent which I can redeem against something I really want.
Quote: the points have an equivilient value in isks that you redeem on the market
See, more reference to points as isk. I fail to understand what you think I missed.
[ed. ps I know what is meant, but that is just plain idiocy. You might as well start playing Freelancer if you don't want any player interaction, as with those points you'll never have to deal with another person again...]
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Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2004.02.20 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Papa Smurf on 20/02/2004 09:51:31
Quote: I do a lot of missions with my two accounts lvl 1,II,III and I must say some of what the agents give you as reward are crap . How about giving you points or something and then you would redeem them against something you really wanted . the points have an equivilient value in isks that you redeem on the market . I konw it will never happen but the more people I talk too the more agree with me .
Now all I have to do is sell my 75 shuttles
One idea would be to have multiple currencies, one per faction and/or corp. When you finish a mission for Quafe, you get rewarded with "Quafe ISK" (QISK). Quafe will accept QISK in it's "stores" allowing you to buy various cool stuff from them (basically anything you could get as a mission reward). QISK would have to have some limitations in transferrability, otherwise we might as well just pay out in ISK. Those limitations would probably be easy to set up through exchange rates. Probably the ISK->QISK rate would be exceedingly poor, while f.ex. QISK->GallenteISK would be somewhat OK.
Special missions could still have a cool reward at the end of them, but the daily grind of missions would be paid in branded cash rather than using the barter model that items-as-rewards really represents.
Our accounting service is actually quite capable of handling multiple currencies, so it's not entirely unreasonable to expect that this could be implemented, although there are plenty of issues that would have to be worked out.
But alas, this is nothing we're likely to see in the near future. Just talkin' outta my tail here.
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Ralimenua
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Posted - 2004.02.20 20:51:00 -
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Quote: But alas, this is nothing we're likely to see in the near future. Just talkin' outta my tail here.
Shame. But having a corporate scrip system and Empire currencies would be cool. (Especially since the word 'scrip' has Icelandic roots!).
I love the idea of having ISK <-> [ Gallente FranK | Amarr Bloodgeld | Caldari Lucre | Minmatar Bits ] <- Corporation scrip conversion - but with punishing exchange rates away from ISK, so it would cost you way, way more in ISK to buy Lai Dai scrip than it would in Caldari Lucre.
/me drools at the thought of dynamic exchange rates, currency speculation, ForEx brokerage and share trading. |
Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.02.20 21:00:00 -
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Quote: /me drools at the thought of dynamic exchange rates, currency speculation, ForEx brokerage and share trading.
What about tech II and mineral futures? Heh.
Realistically though, I bet 75% of the eve world can't even master the majority of the current market capabilities. Especially given how difficult 'escrow' seems to be for some people. -- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.02.22 13:14:00 -
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/me hugs PapaDiddySmurf's multiple faction/corp ISK idea
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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