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Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:28:00 -
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The upcoming Revelations patch III will have about what? 30 new ships?
Are any of these going to be based on any new hull designs or is it going to be just new skins on existing hulls?
We really liked the completely new ships that were introduced previously (Abaddon) and wondered if we were going to be seeing more of them.
Some of the old "legacy" ships are looking a bit worn and tired and have that 1970's thing going on and I would really like to retire the black lights and lava lamps for some new bling bling. --------------
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Thrawnfl
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:29:00 -
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ccp loves to reuse its OLD models for new T2 ship types... one of these days they need to make the T2 ships alittle more unique look wise, a simple skin change just seems... cheap and unprofessional.
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Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:29:00 -
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This was what supposed to in the 'real' post. --------------
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:30:00 -
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Sixteen new ships, and as you can tell, they'll be the same as all the other T2 ships. I imagine the reason is to save time and money. ------------ Whiners - Unite! | Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist. |
Vyyrus
An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Vyyrus on 04/10/2007 18:55:36 ya we want new skins hehe
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Thrawnfl ccp loves to reuse its OLD models for new T2 ship types... one of these days they need to make the T2 ships alittle more unique look wise, a simple skin change just seems... cheap and unprofessional.
It actually makes sense. If you buy a Ford Escort and make some custom modifications, it will still look like a Ford Escort. I would love new models, but still keep the resemblence between T1 and T2
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Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Thrawnfl ccp loves to reuse its OLD models for new T2 ship types... one of these days they need to make the T2 ships alittle more unique look wise, a simple skin change just seems... cheap and unprofessional.
It actually makes sense. If you buy a Ford Escort and make some custom modifications, it will still look like a Ford Escort. I would love new models, but still keep the resemblence between T1 and T2
Sure it makes sense in that you can justify anything at all if you want to.
I'll bet if each race only had ONE hull design and we were all *****ing about it, some asshat would say ...
"Gee, the new ships are only modifications of the existing design so yeah, they look similar" or some other nonsense.
Bottom line is that CCP cheaped out. Case closed. --------------
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Thrawnfl ccp loves to reuse its OLD models for new T2 ship types... one of these days they need to make the T2 ships alittle more unique look wise, a simple skin change just seems... cheap and unprofessional.
It actually makes sense. If you buy a Ford Escort and make some custom modifications, it will still look like a Ford Escort. I would love new models, but still keep the resemblence between T1 and T2
Sure it makes sense in that you can justify anything at all if you want to.
I'll bet if each race only had ONE hull design and we were all *****ing about it, some asshat would say ...
"Gee, the new ships are only modifications of the existing design so yeah, they look similar" or some other nonsense.
Bottom line is that CCP cheaped out. Case closed.
In that case, shouldn't you have been complaining when the first T2 ships came out? ------------ Whiners - Unite! | Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist. |
Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Megadon
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Thrawnfl ccp loves to reuse its OLD models for new T2 ship types... one of these days they need to make the T2 ships alittle more unique look wise, a simple skin change just seems... cheap and unprofessional.
It actually makes sense. If you buy a Ford Escort and make some custom modifications, it will still look like a Ford Escort. I would love new models, but still keep the resemblence between T1 and T2
Sure it makes sense in that you can justify anything at all if you want to.
I'll bet if each race only had ONE hull design and we were all *****ing about it, some asshat would say ...
"Gee, the new ships are only modifications of the existing design so yeah, they look similar" or some other nonsense.
Bottom line is that CCP cheaped out. Case closed.
In that case, shouldn't you have been complaining when the first T2 ships came out?
Well you figure recycling designs once or twice is okay... but 3 times... come on. :\ --------------
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:35:00 -
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Tech II ships are advanced versions of Tech I ships, so they get a modified hull, new ship classes get new hulls though.
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Cpt Fina
Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Megadon
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Thrawnfl ccp loves to reuse its OLD models for new T2 ship types... one of these days they need to make the T2 ships alittle more unique look wise, a simple skin change just seems... cheap and unprofessional.
It actually makes sense. If you buy a Ford Escort and make some custom modifications, it will still look like a Ford Escort. I would love new models, but still keep the resemblence between T1 and T2
Sure it makes sense in that you can justify anything at all if you want to.
I'll bet if each race only had ONE hull design and we were all *****ing about it, some asshat would say ...
"Gee, the new ships are only modifications of the existing design so yeah, they look similar" or some other nonsense.
Bottom line is that CCP cheaped out. Case closed.
In that case, shouldn't you have been complaining when the first T2 ships came out?
Well you figure recycling designs once or twice is okay... but 3 times... come on. :\
It fits in the RP-perspective too. The military usually don't design a whole new tank-model when they upgrade the electonics. Many of the tanks, airplanes and boats are pretty old but with upgraded hulls, weaponsystems ect.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.04 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon Well you figure recycling designs once or twice is okay... but 3 times... come on. :\
Interceptors, Assault Ships, Interdictors, Heavy Assault Ships, Covert Ops, Recons, Command Ships, Logistics Ships, Exhumers, Transports. So ten times really. In all honesty it makes sense, it helps keep loading times down and frees up more resources to do modeling for other ships/the new graphics engine. ------------ Whiners - Unite! | Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist. |
Cailais
Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:29:00 -
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More importantly the Devoter hull needs to be changed from the Maller to ANYTHING else. Preferably a curse hull, or an augoror. Just not the Maller, it looks naf.
Ta.
C.
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Asestorian
Minmatar Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:32:00 -
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I like the shiny Maller look tbh.
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Nito Musashi
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:34:00 -
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wth would anyone take the ugliest gal bs and make it into a t2 covert ops, domi is one of the dumbest looking ships in game. hyperion already kinda looks like a stealth ship, mega even but a domi?
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon
Bottom line is that CCP cheaped out. Case closed.
Actually all the hulls are not only skinned. They have extra details not on the T1 version.
And the actuall build proces makes it very clear that you take the T1 ships and mod it out to be a T2 ship. Its not cheap in my view, its what makes sense under the circumstances.
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Max Hardcase
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:45:00 -
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Do keep in mind that while they were dreaming up the stats for the new stuff the art department was rather busy updating everything with new high res versions of the models and presumably textures.
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian I like the shiny Maller look tbh.
CCP ignore this one, he's clearly deranged
SAY NO to MALLER HULL ON TEH DEVOTER
C.
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Asestorian
Minmatar Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: Asestorian I like the shiny Maller look tbh.
CCP ignore this one, he's clearly deranged
I don't think that comes as much of a surprise to most people
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Schina3
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:24:00 -
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/signed for new hulls. (keeps the game interesting)
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nito Musashi wth would anyone take the ugliest gal bs and make it into a t2 covert ops, domi is one of the dumbest looking ships in game. hyperion already kinda looks like a stealth ship, mega even but a domi?
/signed
I really hope they beautify it for the new graphics. Right now, it looks like a constipated whale. - Stop the Feature Glut: Take the API to the Next Level
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Tech II ships are advanced versions of Tech I ships, so they get a modified hull, new ship classes get new hulls though.
Im not entirely sure a paint job classifies as a 'modified hull' - from what I can see from the abomination that is the Devoter (which REALLY doesn't want to be a Maller hull) is that it looks identical to the Maller, but with some gold spray applied.
A few adjustments to these models would be cool, so that they resemble but don't match their T1 heritage.
C.
Did I mention the Devoter could do with a different hull??
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Elodie Belanger
Moonlight Sonata
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Elodie Belanger on 05/10/2007 00:22:15
Originally by: Cailais Im not entirely sure a paint job classifies as a 'modified hull' - from what I can see from the abomination that is the Devoter (which REALLY doesn't want to be a Maller hull) is that it looks identical to the Maller, but with some gold spray applied.
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Did I mention the Devoter could do with a different hull??
This may well be a stupid question, but what is a Devoter?
Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever when I move. Tennyson, Ulysses |
Cailais
Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Elodie Belanger Edited by: Elodie Belanger on 05/10/2007 00:22:15
Originally by: Cailais Im not entirely sure a paint job classifies as a 'modified hull' - from what I can see from the abomination that is the Devoter (which REALLY doesn't want to be a Maller hull) is that it looks identical to the Maller, but with some gold spray applied.
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Did I mention the Devoter could do with a different hull??
This may well be a stupid question, but what is a Devoter?
At the risk of starting a meme, its an Amarr Heavy Interdictor.
C.
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Elodie Belanger
Moonlight Sonata
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:29:00 -
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When were they anounced?
Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever when I move. Tennyson, Ulysses |
Sarah McTeef
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon The upcoming Revelations patch III will have about what? 30 new ships?
Are any of these going to be based on any new hull designs or is it going to be just new skins on existing hulls?
We really liked the completely new ships that were introduced previously (Abaddon) and wondered if we were going to be seeing more of them.
Some of the old "legacy" ships are looking a bit worn and tired and have that 1970's thing going on and I would really like to retire the black lights and lava lamps for some new bling bling.
Bah!! All ships should be rendered by a single wire frame polygon, an isosceles triangle preferably, of varying colour and size depending on faction and class. |
Phoenix Lord
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Tech II ships are advanced versions of Tech I ships, so they get a modified hull, new ship classes get new hulls though.
Im not entirely sure a paint job classifies as a 'modified hull' - from what I can see from the abomination that is the Devoter (which REALLY doesn't want to be a Maller hull) is that it looks identical to the Maller, but with some gold spray applied.
A few adjustments to these models would be cool, so that they resemble but don't match their T1 heritage.
C.
Did I mention the Devoter could do with a different hull??
Actually, some ships DO have a modified hull.
I know the gallente AFs and CSs do.
I believe the camera men during the previous alliance tourny had a thing for the Eos' mechanical wavy arrow thing.
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StabThigh
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Megadon
Bah!! All ships should be rendered by a single wire frame polygon, an isosceles triangle preferably, of varying colour and size depending on faction and class.
Agreed. I would like some dx10 glowy-hexagons with dif post-processing effects reflecting the action they are doing.
the vaga hexagon gets motion blur also
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Elodie Belanger When were they anounced?
Their partial stats appeared on the sisi test server on the 4th I believe. Thing is they show slot layout, and attributes but no description so what the ships role bonuses will be is wide open to speculation.
The Devoter is identical to the Sacri, except it is 5m/s faster and has a touch more frid and a touch less cpu. Its slot layout is (working from memory here) 7/3/6 with 4 turret hard points and no launcher hard points.
C.
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Elodie Belanger
Moonlight Sonata
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:49:00 -
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Ah ha, I just spotted the giant thread.
I've been waiting for the Keres since it turned up on one of the databases about a million years ago. It's the most stylish looking ship around in my opinion.
Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever when I move. Tennyson, Ulysses |
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