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General Apocalypse
Amarr The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:57:00 -
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I would not count on the fact that you can enter an alliance territory and survive . IMHO all ships that pack a serious punch shouldn't not be able to remain cloaked forever .
Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz
Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:58:00 -
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Quote: I would like to rat and mission run in 0.0 while reducing the chances of PvP.
lol ok
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Target Good idea, but I doubt a T1 frigate would allow me to do very much. I don't suppose I could even go ratting in low sec?
Well, you didn't say that you wanted to rat in low-sec.
But actually, even a few days old newbie with a tech 1 fitted tech 1 frigate can rat in 0.4. Add on a few million sp and some tech 2 equipment, and a tech 1 frigate can kill any belt rat you can run into in low-sec. Especially rats that don't use missiles.
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Contralto
Gallente Southern Tallen Labs
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse I would not count on the fact that you can enter an alliance territory and survive . IMHO all ships that pack a serious punch shouldn't not be able to remain cloaked forever .
I guess thats true of most alliance held territory but in my case RISE and Ushrakahn were not so blood thirsty and in fact were ok to chat to in local. some of the RISE exiles were a bit spammy in local however, I usually just told them I was cloaked and would stay that way till they had departed, not worth the time or ammo to hunt me down I guess. And more risky for them than me methinks.
A large typed friendly to the local alliance in my Bio worked wonders usually.
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Jack Target
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Jack Target Good idea, but I doubt a T1 frigate would allow me to do very much. I don't suppose I could even go ratting in low sec?
Well, you didn't say that you wanted to rat in low-sec.
But actually, even a few days old newbie with a tech 1 fitted tech 1 frigate can rat in 0.4. Add on a few million sp and some tech 2 equipment, and a tech 1 frigate can kill any belt rat you can run into in low-sec. Especially rats that don't use missiles.
Sounds very interesting! How about a backwater of 0.0? Could you rat in a frigate there?
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Contralto
Gallente Southern Tallen Labs
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Contralto on 07/10/2007 13:26:51 Triple BS spawns would take you forever to take down and a speedy kill is important when a threat may enter the system at any time, You need to loot as well so not much use with a frigates cargo bay. I built myself an Exequor fitted with expanders I looted from the serp rats, The cruisers drop plenty of them.
Remember being 30 jumps into a nice quiet spot wont be any use to you if you run out of ammo. Plan ahead and set up a base in an NPC station like I did then foray out from there.
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MattSB
Domination. League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: MattSB on 07/10/2007 13:32:39
Originally by: Contralto
OMG thankyou, this guy speaks the truth and i just wish more people who live in empire would have an attitude like this. Anoyes hell out of me that people whine how 0.0 is always camped and you can't do anything unless in a resident corp/alliance.
Also to the op, bs are way overkill imo for ratting in 0.0 try getting a bc in such as a myrm/drake when its quiet as they both can take any 0.0 spawn while still being competitive in the time to kill them.
Alternatively if you can use an af they are also able to take on 0.0 spawns quite easy only problem takes a fair bit longer to break bs tank with them but near impossible for a random person to catch you.
Another approach it to go faction hunting . . . basically you use a fast ship say ceptor(taranis is one with enough dps) or vaga that kinda thing af should be ok. Then just set out a route thats long and visit every belt along the way only killing faction spawns. This works for some people a corpie of mine makes a boat load doing this but i think he must be a dev alt the luck he has
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 07/10/2007 13:36:00
Originally by: Jack Target
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Jack Target Good idea, but I doubt a T1 frigate would allow me to do very much. I don't suppose I could even go ratting in low sec?
Well, you didn't say that you wanted to rat in low-sec.
But actually, even a few days old newbie with a tech 1 fitted tech 1 frigate can rat in 0.4. Add on a few million sp and some tech 2 equipment, and a tech 1 frigate can kill any belt rat you can run into in low-sec. Especially rats that don't use missiles.
Sounds very interesting! How about a backwater of 0.0? Could you rat in a frigate there?
No. I mean, it is theoretically possible to kill smaller battleship rats with a tech 2 fitted Incursus or Rifter, but it would be more time efficient to do it low-sec then.
An assault ship can do it. It helps to kill the small rats first though, cause they hit you harder than the big ones. And again, rats that don't use missiles are the easiest to tank for a small ship.
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Jack Target
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:44:00 -
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Thank you for all your replies! I'm be setting out for low sec/0.0 in a fast ship tonight!
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General Apocalypse
Amarr The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Target Thank you for all your replies! I'm be setting out for low sec/0.0 in a fast ship tonight!
Remember to update your clone . Most o.o gateways are heavily guarded aka camped
Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz
Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
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Contralto
Gallente Southern Tallen Labs
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:50:00 -
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Doing it at this time of day will be a recipe for a podding, most of the campers and roving gangs seem to log on around now and it doesnt get quiet again till just before DT.
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KKhanid Queen
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Posted - 2007.10.07 13:59:00 -
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You should join a 0.0 corp if you really want to taste 0.0.
0.0 = PVP. I doublt Black ops battleships will be invinible being able to to avoid enemy, cloak when in warp and take on 0.0 rats. If your new to 0.0 you will find it really hard not being killed so i recommend my first sentance
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar White-Noise
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 07/10/2007 14:59:51
Originally by: Jack Target
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Jack Target Ok. How about low sec (0.1 to 0.4)?
All you need is a tech 1 frigate to be nearly uncatchable in low sec (except by a smartbombing ship on a gate, but they are rare in the extreme).
Good idea, but I doubt a T1 frigate would allow me to do very much. I don't suppose I could even go ratting in low sec?
A t1 frigate with a couple weeks gunnery/missile skills should be able to kill every rat in lowsec. Possibly a new player can do it now due to the increased starting skills. Cruisers are quicker though.
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JADE DRAG0NESS
Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:02:00 -
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Considering noone knows what a Covert ops battleship can do yet this topic is a bit
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |
Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Target Thank you for all your replies! I'm be setting out for low sec/0.0 in a fast ship tonight!
Nice one! Good luck and have fun. I assume you'll be going for a scout about in a small, fast cheap ship first? A cheap frigate, or even better, a cheap inty like a Slasher should get you through most camps. Fit a cloak and speed mods, maybe even a WCS, and have a look around. Take a note of the busy systems, plan your route to avoid stations, make bookmarks - safe spots, 600Km-from-the-gate BMs, etc. I doubt you'll make much ISK today, but you'll have a lot of fun and be laying the groundwork for a profitable week...
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Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Target I would like to rat and mission run in 0.0 while reducing the chances of PvP.
How easy will this be with the new T2 black ops battleships?
Could I sneak past gatecamps? Could I use the jump drive to venture into 0.0? Would it be difficult for pirates to track me down?
I think the question is irrelevant. If you can fly a black ops BS you a) can fly a HAC and b) can fly a fleet bs and c) are at least half way to flying a cap ship. You shouldn't really have any problems finding a 0.0 alliance that will accept you.
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Allan Robertson
Gallente Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Target I would like to rat and mission run in 0.0 while reducing the chances of PvP.
How easy will this be with the new T2 black ops battleships?
Could I sneak past gatecamps? Could I use the jump drive to venture into 0.0? Would it be difficult for pirates to track me down?
Your best bet is to join an alliance, for the most part alliance areas are mostly safer than low security. Your new corp and alliance would be able to help you get your equipment out to 0.0.
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Jack Target
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:41:00 -
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Would a speed fitted stabber be ok or are T1 frigates better?
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