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Daveydweeb Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 17:54:00 - [91] Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: Daveydweeb In much the same way that BoB helped CORM, yes. Its all getting really old. It was a good burn the first couple of times but I think everyone is starting to see through it. See: "not in NOL."
laotse The Scope	Posted - 2007.10.07 17:54:00 - [92] we all no bob needs lag to win http://80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.07 17:54:00 - [93] Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: Daveydweeb In much the same way that BoB helped CORM, yes. Quick! I can't think of an argument relevant so spew some old crap that someone else from my alliance spewed before me and that someone else spewed before them! Ahhh! Our forums smack is running out! To the DBP quotes! To the BoB pet quotes! To the enemy forum pasting quotes! Its all getting really old. It was a good burn the first couple of times but I think everyone is starting to see through it. Quoting failure.
Horobi Redwing Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.10.07 17:55:00 - [94] Originally by: Ironass Well, what can you say... RAGNAROK anyone? them damn old norse vikings were right. Ragnarok will happen, they just never predicted it'd be in an internet spaceshipgame. even ragnarok went down in fat ;)
CaptainMiller	Posted - 2007.10.07 17:55:00 - [95] Originally by: laotse we all no bob needs lag to win Are you really going there? Serious question.
Johnfromshipping Butcherbirds	Posted - 2007.10.07 17:58:00 - [96] Originally by: THCS Originally by: Zell Originally Posted by Sesfan STARTING TODAY, CONTINUING TOMORROW, ALL DAY MONDAY: MANDATORY DEPLOYMENT TO FAT! Alright everybody, we've done a great job this week. All CORM poses in reinforced, we've started on RISE. IAC/AAA/RA have done a great job defending IAC against BoB/MC/FIX/AXE/other nixxxxx's...this weekend BoB is pulling out all the stops. There are poses on Sunday and poses all day Monday we need to save. This is of utmost importance. Bring shuttles, newb ships, whatever you can get your hands on! Beat um or lag them to hell! Epic..a goon post about making sure to lag the opposition to hell. Classic stuff. Every single major alliance in the game has access to the goonswarm forums. Heck, everyone I know in eve has access to the goonswarm forums & some of them don't care about the politics of the game. So when you post internal communications from there & make obvious changes (aka Beat um or lag them to hell) it makes you look really desperate.
Maximus Maridius Gallente Navy Special Forces	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:01:00 - [97] Originally by: Straife Quote: On the other hand, we are in 9-9, XGH, QSF, 66-, R97, K-9, 2-R and PMV. RISE haven't undocked in the RIT triangle for weeks, and ISS and EXE are essentially welcoming us. What war are you thinking of? Actually if you check the boards you will see that Rise undocked this morning and killed a large bubble, only to lose a bunch of ships including 2 carriers (of which they tried to self destruct both but only succeeded with 1). Oh and they lost 2 posses last night and many more today. QFTO You're in KOS "Booo we can't hold FAT cuz of game mechanics"
Straife Hounds Of War Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:06:00 - [98] Yes I'm in KOS yet I've helped pop towers and ships in RIT for the last 2 weeks. Smacked BoB around when they came to play with a fleet that didn't lag out the system... I have no right to speak here.
Daveydweeb Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:07:00 - [99] Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: laotse we all no bob needs lag to win Are you really going there? Serious question. Are you going to provide the link between "not in NOL" and "losing the war" that I asked for? Serious question.
CaptainMiller	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:14:00 - [100] Originally by: Daveydweeb Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: laotse we all no bob needs lag to win Are you really going there? Serious question. Are you going to provide the link between "not in NOL" and "losing the war" that I asked for? Serious question. And why would I provide the link? How is that relevant to anything I have posted in this forum? Those are super serious questions my brosef. Sex Panther cologne is serious business too.

Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:14:00 - [101] Originally by: Oveur Wait, you said anti-blob!? Yes, quite right. The direction combat has been moving in the last year is a direction we don't like. It's becoming more and more important that you rack up 50+ ships to be able to do anything meaningful, preferably with 10 or more capital ships and astro-glide to get them into the solar system (what a suitable name for the space universe btw). This isn't only hard on your real-life schedule (Well, I wouldn't know, I don't have one any more) but it's also affecting your gameplay. Who wan's to wait for 3 hours while a fleet is assembled? Originally by: Oveur Sure, big fleet encounters are still in there, but there should be a more natural escalation towards the fleet encounter, it shouldn't be the only option. A large fleet encounter should also span multiple solar systems, have tactical and strategic goals, it should be worth something to flank your opponents constellation, right? Right. Food for thought. I wonder how manipulation of pos timers, so-called 'kiting' (by everyone it seems) when you have a blob in system relates to this? Or 100+ capital ship blobs.. I would like nothing better than for more tactical situations to be available, but the _game mechanics as they stand do not allow this_. For anyone.. I realise we are only small pigeons ****ing on the mighty bonnet of bob's lada, but still, I think we could cope with it. Devblog link from January this year: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=412 Just some thoughts. Idiot alts and trolls keep going at it, you guys ROCK.
Daveydweeb Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:17:00 - [102] Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: Daveydweeb Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: laotse we all no bob needs lag to win Are you really going there? Serious question. Are you going to provide the link between "not in NOL" and "losing the war" that I asked for? Serious question. And why would I provide the link? How is that relevant to anything I have posted in this forum? Those are super serious questions my brosef. Sex Panther cologne is serious business too. You made an assertion but did nothing to back it up. When asked for some kind of evidence or reasoning, you tell me it's irrelevant. Cool.
CaptainMiller	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:18:00 - [103] Originally by: Daveydweeb You made an assertion but did nothing to back it up. When asked for some kind of evidence or reasoning, you tell me it's irrelevant. Link to assertion please.
Straife Hounds Of War Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:20:00 - [104] Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: Daveydweeb You made an assertion but did nothing to back it up. When asked for some kind of evidence or reasoning, you tell me it's irrelevant. Link to assertion please. Or we could just wait until all your posts are voided because you have no corp ticker.
Daveydweeb Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:20:00 - [105] Edited by: Daveydweeb on 07/10/2007 18:20:29 Originally by: CaptainMiller Originally by: Daveydweeb You made an assertion but did nothing to back it up. When asked for some kind of evidence or reasoning, you tell me it's irrelevant. Link to assertion please. You are AmarrSecSlave, right? c/d.
EnacheV1 Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:29:00 - [106] We won today, lets see tommorow, only after tommorow we can come to a conclusion about FAT. ------ Ofc "this is my opinion and not that of my Alliance".
CaptainMiller	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:30:00 - [107] Originally by: Daveydweeb You are AmarrSecSlave, right? c/d. No.
Ramlir 0.0 Corp	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:35:00 - [108] Originally posted by SirMolle: BOB MAKE POS GO BOOM TODAY Alright guys, we've got our work cut out for us today and it's time we show those POSs who Band of Brothers are!!!! Wooo WOOO!! T20 will be giving out ships in FAT to those who lost any in the engagements near RIT where we exterminated 5 goon battleships.
RogueWing Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:36:00 - [109] So, after all day fighting, are we to assume that IAC/RAGOONs completely destroyed the BoB fleet and saved all towers after rescuing the damsels? I approve of this post 109%.
Maksiim Doom and Gloom	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:43:00 - [110] Originally by: Ramlir Originally posted by SirMolle: BOB MAKE POS GO BOOM TODAY Alright guys, we've got our work cut out for us today and it's time we show those POSs who Band of Brothers are!!!! Wooo WOOO!! T20 will be giving out ships in FAT to those who lost any in the engagements near RIT where we exterminated 5 goon battleships. YOU are... FanFest is for...

Nymysys GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 18:44:00 - [111] Originally by: RogueWing So, after all day fighting, are we to assume that IAC/RAGOONs completely destroyed the BoB fleet and saved all towers after rescuing the damsels? No, somehow, the lag dice rolled in your sides favor. Again.
True Sebiestor Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:00:00 - [112] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Nymysys Originally by: RogueWing So, after all day fighting, are we to assume that IAC/RAGOONs completely destroyed the BoB fleet and saved all towers after rescuing the damsels? No, somehow, the lag dice rolled in your sides favor. Again. Want to see how the fight looked from my carrier? Now tell me again our side didn't have any lag. --P It's so funny read in your gang chat "I had 2 min module lag" .... especialy after ours "I can't load grid 15 min" or "I'm taking damage from nowhere"
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:01:00 - [113] Originally by: Morris Falter Originally by: Oveur Wait, you said anti-blob!? Yes, quite right. The direction combat has been moving in the last year is a direction we don't like. It's becoming more and more important that you rack up 50+ ships to be able to do anything meaningful, preferably with 10 or more capital ships and astro-glide to get them into the solar system (what a suitable name for the space universe btw). This isn't only hard on your real-life schedule (Well, I wouldn't know, I don't have one any more) but it's also affecting your gameplay. Who wan's to wait for 3 hours while a fleet is assembled? Originally by: Oveur Sure, big fleet encounters are still in there, but there should be a more natural escalation towards the fleet encounter, it shouldn't be the only option. A large fleet encounter should also span multiple solar systems, have tactical and strategic goals, it should be worth something to flank your opponents constellation, right? Right. Food for thought. I wonder how manipulation of pos timers, so-called 'kiting' (by everyone it seems) when you have a blob in system relates to this? Or 100+ capital ship blobs.. I would like nothing better than for more tactical situations to be available, but the _game mechanics as they stand do not allow this_. For anyone.. I realise we are only small pigeons **ing on the mighty bonnet of bob's lada, but still, I think we could cope with it. Devblog link from January this year: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=412 Just some thoughts. Idiot alts and trolls keep going at it, you guys ROCK. QFT. They had a chance to change something, and they introduced layered sov and made systems as huge fortresses. All the lag that is present now in game is not the fault of the defender or the attacker, it is the fault of CCP for moving the game in this direction, i suspect with the intent to make the conflict in the south grow longer, because after this conflict is over it is pretty obvious that they are going to lose some subscriptions - ppl burned out and generally bored and **** off. Fracking good job CCP. I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :)
Nymysys GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:01:00 - [114] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Nymysys Originally by: RogueWing So, after all day fighting, are we to assume that IAC/RAGOONs completely destroyed the BoB fleet and saved all towers after rescuing the damsels? No, somehow, the lag dice rolled in your sides favor. Again. Want to see how the fight looked from my carrier? Now tell me again our side didn't have any lag. --P Of course there was lag all around. The Alliance got lucky, just as RSF has done in other situations. No real skill involved. If they try the same tactic again tomorrow, who knows, maybe the winds will blow the other way, and our support will rip up their caps. Lag is a capricious thing. Skillpoints and T2 fleets are irrelevent in such an environment.
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:01:00 - [115] Originally by: Ramlir Originally by: Maksiim Originally by: Ramlir Originally posted by SirMolle: BOB MAKE POS GO BOOM TODAY Alright guys, we've got our work cut out for us today and it's time we show those POSs who Band of Brothers are!!!! Wooo WOOO!! T20 will be giving out ships in FAT to those who lost any in the engagements near RIT where we exterminated 5 goon battleships. YOU are... Once more, I find myself owned by an image macro. Who would have thought a picture with some text could do so much permanent mental damage. I think you owned yourself with your stupidity.
Gay Whisper Blue Oyster Bar Regulars	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:02:00 - [116] Talentless blobs sighted in FAT all day... More manlove will be handed out this time tomorrow...
Onwyn Orbatsuu International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:14:00 - [117] Originally by: AmarrSecSlave Its all about strategy, you didn't want the 2 systems BoB took from you, as BoB must not care about feyth. Seems everyone wants FAT and you seem to be losing that battle over time granted but your still losing. BoB has not lost one station since they attacked ASCN as in there original stations. You guys are all fighting for other peoples old stations still yet. You have not even come close to NOL. firstly lets get this clear as it is most important, ACSN DOES NOT EQUAL goons/iac/aaa/tcf/etc etc. ASCN is a seperate alliance that was removed before this current war started. To say that the stations were once ASCN is lame, as I'm sure most stations were once owned by another alliance at some point (didn't fat originally belong to fix or something). The only reason bob is attacking FAT is because it is the weakest link atm compaired to the other battles bob "could" choose to fight in. FAT is somewhat strategically located, but it is on the edge of querious which is what bob wants to protect. it doesn't care about catch, all bob wants to do is insure that we don't enter querious and then towards delve or where ever it is bob resides. The only reason bob came to catch in the first place is becasue McFix and friends were unable to remove IAAAC from the area, we were to powerful for MC, although I think that aside from the ed- situation is was more or less even odds at that point. MC called in bob as they couldn't handle it themselves. BoB was more then happy to get away from the goons for a while and fight a "fair" fight for a change. Also IAC has lost 1 station so far and are about to lose two more. So what? BoB has lost two (2) titans and 3 or 4 regions so far, along with the two stations that MC has lost in the north with word that soon their other stations will soon fall under siege as well. Oh and about BoB not caring about feyth, well the residents of feyth were told by BoB that if things got hairy then BoB would help them, same for RISE. Turns out this was not the case. BoB's interests were elsewhere and the alliances that werre protected by the BoB umbrella plan were abandoned and ultimately destroyed. Even if there was no isk being sent from these "pet" alliances to BoB for space rental, there is still the trust that should have been there regarding BoB's assistance during hard times, which did not arrive. BoB may be winning the battle but they are far from winning the war. This current war did not start when ASCN was attacked, this is not the ASCN war. This is Prohibition III (because I and II failed each more horribly then the last)
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:22:00 - [118] Originally by: True Sebiestor Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Nymysys Originally by: RogueWing So, after all day fighting, are we to assume that IAC/RAGOONs completely destroyed the BoB fleet and saved all towers after rescuing the damsels? No, somehow, the lag dice rolled in your sides favor. Again. Want to see how the fight looked from my carrier? Now tell me again our side didn't have any lag. --P It's so funny read in your gang chat "I had 2 min module lag" .... especialy after ours "I can't load grid 15 min" or "I'm taking damage from nowhere" 2 min module lag on siege activation, which was at the very start of the fight. Meanwhile, I was so lagged out it took me three tries and ten minutes to log in, another ten minutes to warp, I couldn't see anything on the field for twenty minutes, and according to the scanner on that screenshot, every single friendly capital was 0m from me. So, yes, we were lagged as hell, too. But all else being equal in a lagged-out fight, the side bringing more capitals wins, because if everyone randomly pairs off with five people who they get to see and target, the capital can kill his five opponents. The T1 frigates and cruiser wrecks that littered the field after the engagement served nicely to reemphasize that other classes of ships cannot. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:30:00 - [119] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: True Sebiestor Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Nymysys Originally by: RogueWing So, after all day fighting, are we to assume that IAC/RAGOONs completely destroyed the BoB fleet and saved all towers after rescuing the damsels? No, somehow, the lag dice rolled in your sides favor. Again. Want to see how the fight looked from my carrier? Now tell me again our side didn't have any lag. --P It's so funny read in your gang chat "I had 2 min module lag" .... especialy after ours "I can't load grid 15 min" or "I'm taking damage from nowhere" 2 min module lag on siege activation, which was at the very start of the fight. Meanwhile, I was so lagged out it took me three tries and ten minutes to log in, another ten minutes to warp, I couldn't see anything on the field for twenty minutes, and according to the scanner on that screenshot, every single friendly capital was 0m from me. So, yes, we were lagged as hell, too. But all else being equal in a lagged-out fight, the side bringing more capitals wins, because if everyone randomly pairs off with five people who they get to see and target, the capital can kill his five opponents. The T1 frigates and cruiser wrecks that littered the field after the engagement served nicely to reemphasize that other classes of ships cannot. --P No, it's who loads the grids first, not who brings more capitals.
Endeva Caldari Most Wanted INC	Posted - 2007.10.07 19:37:00 - [120] Originally by: True Sebiestor Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Nymysys Originally by: RogueWing So, after all day fighting, are we to assume that IAC/RAGOONs completely destroyed the BoB fleet and saved all towers after rescuing the damsels? No, somehow, the lag dice rolled in your sides favor. Again. Want to see how the fight looked from my carrier? Now tell me again our side didn't have any lag. --P It's so funny read in your gang chat "I had 2 min module lag" .... especialy after ours "I can't load grid 15 min" or "I'm taking damage from nowhere" and reading you from local no lags...all fine

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