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Eofina
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.10.08 00:55:00 -
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Master smaller ships first, don't fly what you can't lose, and don't expect Warp Core Stabs to always protect you.
2007.10.08 00:16
Victim: ****** Alliance: NONE Corp: Aliastra Destroyed: Hurricane System: Bantish Security: 0.3
Involved parties:
Name: Eofina (laid the final blow) Security: -9.5 Alliance: Dark Nebula Galactic Empire Corp: DEATH'S LEGION Ship: Rifter Weapon: 150mm Light AutoCannon II
Name: Blood Visionary / Blood Raiders
Destroyed items:
Phased Plasma M, Qty: 11 (Cargo) Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I 720mm Carbine Howitzer I 425mm Medium Carbine Repeating Cannon I 650mm Medium Carbine Howitzer I Heat Dissipation Amplifier I EMP M, Qty: 2000 (Cargo) Energized Basic Reactive Plating Internal Force Field Array I Titanium Sabot M, Qty: 2000 (Cargo) Fried Interface Circuit, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Faint Phase Inversion ECM I (Cargo) 50mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I (Cargo) Asymmetric Energy Succor I (Cargo) Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 8 (Cargo) Miner I (Cargo) Murky Energy Transmitter I (Cargo) Cap Booster 50, Qty: 10 (Cargo) Multifrequency S (Cargo) Microwave S (Cargo) Explosion Dampening Field I (Cargo) 50mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I (Cargo) Medium Pulse Laser I (Cargo) Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 4 (Cargo) Explosion Dampening Amplifier I (Cargo) 50mm Reinforced Steel Plates I (Cargo) Small EMP Smartbomb I (Cargo) Ultraviolet S (Cargo) Phased Plasma M, Qty: 10 Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 11 Phased Plasma M, Qty: 70 Phased Plasma M, Qty: 23 Phased Plasma M, Qty: 22
"Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." ~ Dark Helmet
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Hank Soral
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Posted - 2007.10.08 01:06:00 -
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Wow, awesome!
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IKEELYOU
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Posted - 2007.10.08 01:08:00 -
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I was going to answer "who cares" until I looked at what ship you used.
Lulz.
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an internet
Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.08 01:10:00 -
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720mm Carbine Howitzer I 425mm Medium Carbine Repeating Cannon I 650mm Medium Carbine Howitzer I
Wow.
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Eofina
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.10.08 01:14:00 -
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He asked me how much would it cost to stop shooting. I asked for 20 Mil, but he said he only had 7.2 Mil. So after I destroyed him I tried again for 5 Mil on his pod. His exact words were "get bent". Soon after he was in a clone vat far far away.
"Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." ~ Dark Helmet
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Hozac
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Posted - 2007.10.08 01:22:00 -
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Yep, small ships are great way to learn. Also, webs ftw :)
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Kessiaan
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Posted - 2007.10.08 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: IKEELYOU I was going to answer "who cares" until I looked at what ship you used.
Lulz.
Rifters are like bulldogs. As long as you're halfway prepared they're just annoying little ****ants. The moment you say "Whatever it's just a frigate" they'll **** you up though.
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Doppler Shift
Red 42 Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.10.08 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Eofina [b]... Destroyed items: (cargo removed for clarity) ... Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I 720mm Carbine Howitzer I 425mm Medium Carbine Repeating Cannon I 650mm Medium Carbine Howitzer I Heat Dissipation Amplifier I ... Energized Basic Reactive Plating Internal Force Field Array I ...
That fitting makes my eyes hurt.
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This is what's left of my signatu...[siggienerf][/siggienerf] |
Karrade Krise
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Posted - 2007.10.08 05:07:00 -
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hurricane to a rifter..........priceless
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 11:46:00 -
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Yep. Sounds like an idiotic fitting. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |
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DarthMopp
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.08 12:28:00 -
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A lesson to the older players:
We fly what we want. If we loose em due to our noobness, well its our fault, lesson learned then (hopefully). You know what: this is just a f....ing game. Anyone who really cares about this virtual isk thing should consult a psycho-doc !
And to those who always say "Thiz fitting is making my eyez bleed" ..sounds like you arrived at EvE with already 20Million Skillpoints and you always knew what to fit dont you ? Or did even you "Gods of EvE" did some mistakes ? Unthinkable.
So you killed an unexperienced nub ! With an extremely lousy fitting...while transporting his loot and salvage. Geez...guess he learned his lesson. Oh..and how glad you must be that there are still unexperienced noobs who make such mistakes....otherwise you wouldnt be able to rack up your killboard, eh ?
"Alea iacta est"
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Dotard
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Posted - 2007.10.08 12:30:00 -
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LOL?
Nerf You! Buff Me!
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Dotard
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Posted - 2007.10.08 12:35:00 -
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Actually the lesson is not about WCS or small ships, it's about fittings. Look at the Hurricanes fittings, make a list of what is wrong with it and don't do that.
Heat Dissipation Amplifier I ?!?
Nerf You! Buff Me!
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Frodon
O'Carebears
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Posted - 2007.10.08 12:38:00 -
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Noob shooting only, date of birth september 2007...
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DarthMopp
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.08 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Frodon Noob shooting only, date of birth september 2007...
Ok..thats what i call "Balls of Steel" !!
"Alea iacta est"
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Kranisos
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Posted - 2007.10.08 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kranisos on 08/10/2007 12:45:02
Originally by: DarthMopp
Originally by: Frodon Noob shooting only, date of birth september 2007...
Ok..thats what i call "Balls of Steel" !!
As U say.
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Corwain
Gallente Down In Flames
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Posted - 2007.10.08 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: DarthMopp And to those who always say "Thiz fitting is making my eyez bleed" ..sounds like you arrived at EvE with already 20Million Skillpoints and you always knew what to fit dont you ? Or did even you "Gods of EvE" did some mistakes ?
No, we weren't stupid enough to try to shield tank a ship that's obviously an armor tanker. Ever. I mean cmon, look at its slots! Look at it's bonuses! While it works when ratting NPC frigates it's horrible inefficient. If he wanted to fit his ship that way he could have just bought a Cyclone that is CHEAPER and is actually designed to be fitted that way.
This may be a shock, but there are many many resources to pilots to prevent this right here. You are making very noob mistakes all through your post. SP doesn't make or break you in EVE because of how much tactics matter and because you can only specialize so much on each ship, you won't be able to fly as many ships as a vet well, but in 2-3 months of specializing you should be almost as good in any sub BS t1 ship. I've taken down twin -10 sec status Wolf pilots with a week old Vexor pilot. Not bragging here, it happens all the time, most rookies don't seem to get this though. It's honestly the beauty of EVE compared to other MMOs.
This pilot in the killmail makes the mistake of thinking the more ISK he spends the better the ship will be. For what he was doing a cruiser would have been fine, maybe even a frigate.
There are many websites as well as the forums, if you can look past the flaming and trolling that you can learn how to properly fit ships. If that fails join a player corp that has a clue. I shudder to think how your real life goes if you never research anything but just buy the most expensive stuff you can. How does your automobile shopping go for instance? You just go to the store and tell the clerk, "Hey mate, give me the biggest, most expensive auto you've got! Drivers license? Screw that! Insurance? Nope! Do I want to fit seat belts? Nah, I'll use velcro to hold me in! Doors and windows aren't needed." -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain |
Frodon
O'Carebears
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Posted - 2007.10.08 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
No, we weren't stupid enough to try to shield tank a ship that's obviously an armor tanker.......
..... Doors and windows aren't needed."[/quote
Making error teach us what not to do again. I see U're video and juste after i try the same thing. The results was that i lost my ships faster than i bought and fit it. Why? Because i don't check my transversal and i was aligned direct to my target. Arbitrator goes boom
But still a nice video i like to watch and to try.
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Corwain
Gallente Down In Flames
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Posted - 2007.10.08 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Frodon Making error teach us what not to do again. I see U're video and juste after i try the same thing. The results was that i lost my ships faster than i bought and fit it. Why? Because i don't check my transversal and i was aligned direct to my target. Arbitrator goes boom
But still a nice video i like to watch and to try.
Hehe, yup. I'm not saying you don't learn by trial and error, I just believe that as much thought should go into your ship and setup before the fact as after it goes south. And transversal is the single most important thing to remember when flying an Arby! -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain |
Frodon
O'Carebears
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Posted - 2007.10.08 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
Originally by: Frodon Making error teach us what not to do again. I see U're video and juste after i try the same thing. The results was that i lost my ships faster than i bought and fit it. Why? Because i don't check my transversal and i was aligned direct to my target. Arbitrator goes boom
But still a nice video i like to watch and to try.
Hehe, yup. I'm not saying you don't learn by trial and error, I just believe that as much thought should go into your ship and setup before the fact as after it goes south. And transversal is the single most important thing to remember when flying an Arby!
Lollll, you're right, i'm still a noob in pvp action but i still learning.
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DarthMopp
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.08 14:02:00 -
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Quote: There are many websites as well as the forums, if you can look past the flaming and trolling that you can learn how to properly fit ships. If that fails join a player corp that has a clue. I shudder to think how your real life goes if you never research anything but just buy the most expensive stuff you can. How does your automobile shopping go for instance? You just go to the store and tell the clerk, "Hey mate, give me the biggest, most expensive auto you've got! Drivers license? Screw that! Insurance? Nope! Do I want to fit seat belts? Nah, I'll use velcro to hold me in! Doors and windows aren't needed."
Driving-License ? For my car ? Do i look like a noob that i need a license for what has been given to me by god himself ? :-)
Ok...perhaps i was somehow misunderstood...didnt meant to flame or troll. All i was saying is that this is just a game and everybody can play it the way he wants to. Want some examples for my faults i made in EvE ? Here we go:
1. Fitted a Laser to my Gallente Frig () without knowing that i needed a crystal for that. Hope you can imagine my face when i realised that my assumed Death-Star-Laser was nothing more then a cheap MagLite Imitate....while jumping into "Worlds Collide"
2. "haha...you will never warpscramble me again you darn gallente-mission-generic-ships-fuzzies - i now have 3 Warpsstabilizers..hahaaa...hngg? WFT...me cannot lock on anymore at normal range...." ...realized the locking range penalty only seconds before my ship died... (Enemys Abound LvL 4)
As you can see "reading the manual" is never first on my list when testing new things :D Guess that has already cost me some isk yet...
"Alea iacta est"
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Frodon
O'Carebears
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Posted - 2007.10.08 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: DarthMopp
Quote: There are many websites as well as the forums, if you can look past the flaming and trolling that you can learn how to properly fit ships. If that fails join a player corp that has a clue. I shudder to think how your real life goes if you never research anything but just buy the most expensive stuff you can. How does your automobile shopping go for instance? You just go to the store and tell the clerk, "Hey mate, give me the biggest, most expensive auto you've got! Drivers license? Screw that! Insurance? Nope! Do I want to fit seat belts? Nah, I'll use velcro to hold me in! Doors and windows aren't needed."
Driving-License ? For my car ? Do i look like a noob that i need a license for what has been given to me by god himself ? :-)
Ok...perhaps i was somehow misunderstood...didnt meant to flame or troll. All i was saying is that this is just a game and everybody can play it the way he wants to. Want some examples for my faults i made in EvE ? Here we go:
1. Fitted a Laser to my Gallente Frig () without knowing that i needed a crystal for that. Hope you can imagine my face when i realised that my assumed Death-Star-Laser was nothing more then a cheap MagLite Imitate....while jumping into "Worlds Collide"
2. "haha...you will never warpscramble me again you darn gallente-mission-generic-ships-fuzzies - i now have 3 Warpsstabilizers..hahaaa...hngg? WFT...me cannot lock on anymore at normal range...." ...realized the locking range penalty only seconds before my ship died... (Enemys Abound LvL 4)
As you can see "reading the manual" is never first on my list when testing new things :D Guess that has already cost me some isk yet...
Those mistake should be frapsed.
Last lost was this week when i saw a hobgobelin alone in a belt. Engaging my enyo right on him (why? i still don't know what for, perhaps show to myself my overpowered dps) , blow fast this enormous target, and popped by concord. Was in 0.5, just forget to check this little detail.
FRAPS
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DarthMopp
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.08 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Frodon
Those mistake should be frapsed.
Last lost was this week when i saw a hobgobelin alone in a belt. Engaging my enyo right on him (why? i still don't know what for, perhaps show to myself my overpowered dps) , blow fast this enormous target, and popped by concord. Was in 0.5, just forget to check this little detail.
FRAPS
Not only those mistakes...but also the faces of the guys behind the screen....faces going from triumphant looks to pale grey..... :-) Hilarious...
"Alea iacta est"
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Lagerstars
Caldari Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 16:16:00 -
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I upset a couple of people recently with awful setups, im at work so cant post the kill, but Harpy Vs Raven and Harpy winning was amusing to say the least and then refusing the ransom whilst waiting for a corp mate to come along to help him.... In his Hulk LOL.... so i relieved him of his ship for his troubles too.
The smacktalk that followed for well over an hour after was funny tho, so much so it warranted me ensuring i caused the maximum misery for the 2 weeks after -----------------------------------------
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Major Stormer
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.08 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Major Stormer on 08/10/2007 16:59:22 Better lession for new players: Do not underestimate the one day old char flying a much smaller ship then you.
2007.10.07 17:10
Victim:* Alliance: NONE Corp: Imperial Academy Destroyed: Harbinger System: Orkashu Security: 0.8
Involved parties:
Name: ****** (laid the final blow) Security: 0.0 Alliance: NONE Corp: Federal Navy Academy Ship: Incursus Weapon: Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
Destroyed items:
Expanded Cargohold I Co-Processor I Co-Processor I Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Pyroxeres, Qty: 1610 (Cargo)
Originally by: SirMolle Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.10.08 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
No, we weren't stupid enough to try to shield tank a ship that's obviously an armor tanker. Ever. I mean cmon, look at its slots! Look at it's bonuses! While it works when ratting NPC frigates it's horrible inefficient. If he wanted to fit his ship that way he could have just bought a Cyclone that is CHEAPER and is actually designed to be fitted that way.
and he should have known all of this because of... what exactly? ever thought that he might not even speak english properly, thus not able to figure out totally what the description of the ship is telling him? at least he was using AC/arties and not lasers, like in another post. he was not using a webber as he tried to shield tank it seems. maybe he was lacking skills for armor tank? who knows. and for a webless ship, a mix of arti/ac is probably the best option to take out both cruiser/frigattes at long/short range, specially if he is only a few weeks old and lacks skills.
so, you "OMG I WAS BORN GODLY" can all go to hell, i bet you didn't achieve anything on your own anyways, just copied what forum sais (nice that you can speak english, some ppl. can't or can't properly) or did what a older corpmate told u.
it's all like this OMG IMBA WOW GUILDS who kill a boss for first time, copying to the smallest detail a strategy they've read on forums and still thinking they are godly.
to all that kind of ppl, i'll say what ford fairlane used to say to zuzu petals: shut up... just... shut the **** up.
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Dotard
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:28:00 -
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Funny, funny shtuff here! I'm laughing my *** off!
(Jeez... I'm so easily entertained.)
Nerf You! Buff Me!
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DarthMopp
Gallente I.D.I.O.T.
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:30:00 -
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Quote: at least he was using AC/arties and not lasers, like in another post.
HEY ! That was on my second day
"Alea iacta est"
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Eofina
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.10.08 22:19:00 -
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Yes he was only a 20 day character. Half the reason I even attempted such an undertaking. What pirate here wouldn't jump at the sight of a noob in a ship they shouldn't be flying? I'm only a 6 month character and I still love my Rifter, even though I could easily take out my cruiser or battlecruiser.
Simply put this player shouldn't have been alone in a belt, ratting frigate NPC's, with such a horrible fitting in a battlecruiser.
My advice to any new player reading this is: Do your homework. Check the forums, ask people questions in game, and consult the various ship fitting websites. The biggest ship isn't always the best ship.
"Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." ~ Dark Helmet
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Vrabac
Amarr BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2007.10.08 23:28:00 -
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Happens all the time tbh. Got geddon with omen, brutix with omen, drake with punisher and tristan, raven with 3 t1 frigs, rokh with arbitrator, probably bunch of stuff I forgot... Than you see the killmail and loot and say "so THATS why he didnt kill me in first 2 seconds".
Basically if you survive the very beginning in such a fight, it means opponent has no clue. If you dont... it's just a frig.
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