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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ironass on 12/10/2007 13:30:36 Hello folks, after some really boring hauling in tenal i started thinking about an important thing.
Sol don't even have Sov 1! I started discussing this in corpchat. Anyways, here are my points.
Earth space agencies (mainly NASA, ESA & RKA) will have to NAP each other pretty damn soon. Sov 4 will take quite some time to get within SOL. And at the current time we have no Sov in either SOL or Cassiopeia do we? The only thing i've ever read about are Survey Probes probing SOL planet IV. ISS beeing the latest probe after mir was taken down.
Now, why do we need Sov 4 in SOL? Well, the answer is quite easy really. Do the NASA/ESA/RKA (henceforth known as <EARTH>) have any chance to defend against a full scale siege from an enemy even slightly better equipped? I think the answer is no, we don't. I have yet to hear of any capital production. The only thing i ever hear on the news are shuttles. And they are even worse then minmatarr slavebuild shuttles since they seem to crash ever so often.
In corpchat someone brought up the Aircraft carriers, however i feel they are a bit too weak. The fighters one of these carries are also a bit to weak and needs the t2 variants to be implemented for them to be useful for planetary defense. There are work in progress for fighters able to breach the atmosphere into orbit.
Honeslty, <EARTH> needs to start deploying sov pos's in SOL and eliminate any possible hostile PoS's that is most likely deployed on planet 7 or 8 most likely.
Your thoughts please!
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Xander Bastalle
Gallente Bastalle Holdings
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:21:00 -
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What are you smoking, and can I please have some?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 12/10/2007 13:24:04 I can understand... but maybe you should make separate topics?
one topic for the carrier tech 2 fighter idea, and a topic for the sov thing?
you kinda jump ship in the middle of your post.
the person above me doesn't know 0.0 space does he. good luck with SoV 4. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
Triath Lon
Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xander Bastalle What are you smoking, and can I please have some?
Get in line!
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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 12/10/2007 13:24:04 I can understand... but maybe you should make separate topics?
one topic for the carrier tech 2 fighter idea, and a topic for the sov thing?
you kinda jump ship in the middle of your post.
the person above me doesn't know 0.0 space does he. good luck with SoV 4.
Now that you mention it... Yeppers, should have been 2 topics.
But this way CCP will understand that some alliances are still too young to reach Sov-4 AND that we need to get T2 fighters asap. As far as i know <EARTH> hasn't gotten a capital shipyard yet. We have got some capital ships though (aircraft carrier)
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.12 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ironass
Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 12/10/2007 13:24:04 I can understand... but maybe you should make separate topics?
one topic for the carrier tech 2 fighter idea, and a topic for the sov thing?
you kinda jump ship in the middle of your post.
the person above me doesn't know 0.0 space does he. good luck with SoV 4.
Now that you mention it... Yeppers, should have been 2 topics.
But this way CCP will understand that some alliances are still too young to reach Sov-4 AND that we need to get T2 fighters asap. As far as i know <EARTH> hasn't gotten a capital shipyard yet. We have got some capital ships though (aircraft carrier)
well... if you got tech 2 fighters you'd have to fight them too. hopefully with the new changes in rev 3, your life will be easier. the black ops ships and the such.
bt yes it's tough for a new allaince to get into the game of sov 4 when poses take longer to take down than it takes to kill the tower... who ever though of that bad idea... ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:42:00 -
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Even worse, shuttles don't tank especially well. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare |
THCS
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.10.12 14:51:00 -
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Lucky enough jupiter and saturn will keep any invaders busy for a while pos spamming while we get Bruce willis equipped and ready.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:02:00 -
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Bruce Willis???
Nah, it will ofc be Chuck Norris ---
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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: THCS Lucky enough jupiter and saturn will keep any invaders busy for a while pos spamming while we get Bruce willis equipped and ready.
Yes, i was considering these 2 planets beeing usful for PoS spamming, put up a couple of deathstars. However we've got to find some other fuel then gasoline for PoS's if we are to have any reasonable price to run them. But then <EARTH> will have to deploy fast. You can't really wait another few downtimes.
And as someone was saying, shuttles in a fleetbattle wont do no good. And considering <EARTH> lacks both shields (caldari) as well as repairbots(gallente) we need to somehow get the <EARTH> CEO to train ethnic relations, atm <EARTH> only consist of either Amarr or Minmatarr. And judging by aircraft / shuttle speeds i would say the CEO is amarr. Now, Amarr BS's aren't too good now are they?
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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:10:00 -
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Ok, i think i might be wrong. According to chat, <EARTH> has to be either Khanid specced Amarr or armortanking mimnatarr. I don't know what's worst to be honest.
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Hooch Flux
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Bruce Willis???
Nah, it will ofc be Chuck Norris
Problem is, nobody would ever try to invade simply because they know we have Chuck!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ironass
Originally by: THCS Lucky enough jupiter and saturn will keep any invaders busy for a while pos spamming while we get Bruce willis equipped and ready.
Yes, i was considering these 2 planets beeing usful for PoS spamming, put up a couple of deathstars. However we've got to find some other fuel then gasoline for PoS's if we are to have any reasonable price to run them. But then <EARTH> will have to deploy fast. You can't really wait another few downtimes.
And as someone was saying, shuttles in a fleetbattle wont do no good. And considering <EARTH> lacks both shields (caldari) as well as repairbots(gallente) we need to somehow get the <EARTH> CEO to train ethnic relations, atm <EARTH> only consist of either Amarr or Minmatarr. And judging by aircraft / shuttle speeds i would say the CEO is amarr. Now, Amarr BS's aren't too good now are they?
wait...a..minuate... ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
Hooch Flux
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ironass
Originally by: THCS Lucky enough jupiter and saturn will keep any invaders busy for a while pos spamming while we get Bruce willis equipped and ready.
Yes, i was considering these 2 planets beeing usful for PoS spamming, put up a couple of deathstars. However we've got to find some other fuel then gasoline for PoS's if we are to have any reasonable price to run them. But then <EARTH> will have to deploy fast. You can't really wait another few downtimes.
And as someone was saying, shuttles in a fleetbattle wont do no good. And considering <EARTH> lacks both shields (caldari) as well as repairbots(gallente) we need to somehow get the <EARTH> CEO to train ethnic relations, atm <EARTH> only consist of either Amarr or Minmatarr. And judging by aircraft / shuttle speeds i would say the CEO is amarr. Now, Amarr BS's aren't too good now are they?
Problem is, Dev's keep nerfing <EARTH>! Like when those guys did the research for Cold Fusion and the Dev's came along and Nerf'd it.
Prime Example!
And that was one of the Tech 2 fighter projects! Nerfed!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
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Nicoli Voldkif
Caelli-Merced INC. Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:35:00 -
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the real question is should <EARTH> even try and get SOV4? I mean Sol is not the best system it only has one asteroid belt and no stations or outposts either. -----------------------------------------------
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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nicoli Voldkif the real question is should <EARTH> even try and get SOV4? I mean Sol is not the best system it only has one asteroid belt and no stations or outposts either.
Another very fine question. I guess it is good, depending on how the moons on the outter planets look. Keep in mind that's actually quite a decent sized roidbelt though. And a huge gascloud (jupiter) that might be worth it.
But keep in mind, we do need to put up outposts in 2 other systems within the cassiopeia constellation...
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:50:00 -
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Tech 1 Carrier Tech 1 Fighters
Tech 2 Carrier Tech 2 Fighters
Tech 3 Carrier with Tech 3 fighters
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Nicoli Voldkif
Caelli-Merced INC. Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:52:00 -
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Key to remember that <earth> has some very stiff Booster legality concerns so the gas cloud may not be as profitable as you think. Has anyone did a swing through the Belt to see what ore types are in there because even though it is massive if its mostly Veld won't be worth it. -----------------------------------------------
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Snake Doctor
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.12 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Doctor on 12/10/2007 16:03:49 I think you need a break from EVE for a bit.
I don't think real life includes Sov 4...
Edit: Oh, if you feel like making a trip out to Sol 7 or 8, please do take pictures.
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Nexus Kinnon
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2007.10.12 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Doctor Edited by: Snake Doctor on 12/10/2007 16:03:49 I think you need a break from EVE for a bit.
I don't think real life includes Sov 4...
Edit: Oh, if you feel like making a trip out to Sol 7 or 8, please do take pictures.
hay guises, whut iz dis? some kind fo joke thread? i dun get it?????111
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zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.12 17:55:00 -
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All this EARTH talk is confusing me.
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Orivanna
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Posted - 2007.10.12 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Even worse, shuttles don't tank especially well.
I hear that if you assign Templars, Amarr fighter drones used by Carriers, to the shuttle it works well
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Snake Doctor
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.12 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Snake Doctor Edited by: Snake Doctor on 12/10/2007 16:03:49 I think you need a break from EVE for a bit.
I don't think real life includes Sov 4...
Edit: Oh, if you feel like making a trip out to Sol 7 or 8, please do take pictures.
hay guises, whut iz dis? some kind fo joke thread? i dun get it?????111
He's talking about real life Sov 4 of our solar system.
Sol 7 and 8 = Uranus/Neptune. Two bodies that are notorious for not having enough pictures.
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.12 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Doctor
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Snake Doctor Edited by: Snake Doctor on 12/10/2007 16:03:49 I think you need a break from EVE for a bit.
I don't think real life includes Sov 4...
Edit: Oh, if you feel like making a trip out to Sol 7 or 8, please do take pictures.
hay guises, whut iz dis? some kind fo joke thread? i dun get it?????111
He's talking about real life Sov 4 of our solar system.
Sol 7 and 8 = Uranus/Neptune. Two bodies that are notorious for not having enough pictures.
Joke threads 4tw tbh
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Snake Doctor
Paradox v2.0
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Posted - 2007.10.12 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Castillo
Originally by: Snake Doctor
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Snake Doctor Edited by: Snake Doctor on 12/10/2007 16:03:49 I think you need a break from EVE for a bit.
I don't think real life includes Sov 4...
Edit: Oh, if you feel like making a trip out to Sol 7 or 8, please do take pictures.
hay guises, whut iz dis? some kind fo joke thread? i dun get it?????111
He's talking about real life Sov 4 of our solar system.
Sol 7 and 8 = Uranus/Neptune. Two bodies that are notorious for not having enough pictures.
Joke threads 4tw tbh
They are so much better than the ones where people DEMAND new things/nerfs/whathaveyou.
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