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Theo Samaritan
Gallente Pheonix Reborn
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Posted - 2007.10.14 11:43:00 -
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Ok so doing my usual downtime forum rounds on the sunday I came across this:
Originally by: snakedoctor
Every day, all day long, people complain about the game. No one ever praises it. They just complain about how something's broken, something isn't right (in their opinnion), make demands, or insult the rest of the playerbase.
And to be entirely honest, its both true and sickening. All alot of you ******* seem to do is complain about eve, how this is broken, that is broken,this is laggy, that is laggy, its all CCP's fault, CCP arn't doing anything to help us blah blah blah bull****.
CCP have spent at LEAST 4 years RUNNING EVE. They have the fastest damn gaming server on this planet and you STILL complain about it struggling to run large fleet battles, or Jita, or the Motsu triangle.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING!? If you want to complain about lag, fair enough, but CCP can't control it anymore than you can, unless you can find a way of re-wiring the entire internet with fibre optic cable to get as fast as possible connections. Don't blame CCP for lag when they work there asses off for it. CCP can't control latency once it leaves the cluster - hell its a miracle they have some control INSIDE the cluster with todays tech.
Also don't complain about constant lag if you live in the USA or in Austailia or somewhere equally as far away from the Server (which is in London). If you're on the other side the planet, expect some at least.
I like eve. I like CCP. They do more work on a yearly basis to help us the playerbase than I have actually worked in the last 10. CCP gets all the flak for tranquility, and quite unfairly in my honest opinion.
Who organises Fanfest and many of the community functions? CCP
Who bought a hundred grands worth + of server EQ to help smoothen TQ? CCP
Who has released every expansion patch (many of which including more stuff than the average WoW expansion) for completely free? CCP
Who's written a brand new engine designed to handle the (somewhat recent) heavy userloads? CCP!
Comon, don't give CPP flak due to things they are trying their damn best to fix. If a mods broken? Bug report it. Whining won't fix it. Didn't get a ship reimbursed because you lost it in lag? Tough ****, the policy does state lag isn't an excuse.
Basically what this mild rant post comes down to is this. On the whole CCP don't get enough credit for the things they do, and by god they do one hell of alot. they can't control the lag, only improve on it, which they have done.
Imagine the 2005 server holding todays loads!
I like CCP for everything they do for us the players. You should to.
Oh and people saying about Ambulation being a waste of CCP dev's time best spent in server improvements? Thats being developed by White Wolf, so how it effects CCP other than the brief server integration I have no idea.
And now you guys can flame all you want. I have said my $0.02.
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Gavriel Black
Amarr Pandaemonium's Children
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Posted - 2007.10.14 11:46:00 -
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calling people ****s etc... isn't a good way to get a positive response
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.14 11:47:00 -
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I'll say, CCP cares about us and CCP is 4TW. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |
Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.10.14 11:48:00 -
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I like CCP. ----- Visible Implants - good for so many occasions |
Laura Steel
The Chaotic Order Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.10.14 11:49:00 -
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Hey Im paying for the damn thing arent I, what more do you want! ----
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.10.14 11:50:00 -
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Kvetching about kvetching is still kvetching.
*click*
Owait, wrong character. BRB w/ ISD. (j/k mods pleasedon'tbanme)
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Theo Samaritan
Gallente Pheonix Reborn
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Posted - 2007.10.14 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gavriel Black calling people ****s etc... isn't a good way to get a positive response
No, but it gets peoples attention! ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/ |
Drenan
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Posted - 2007.10.14 12:22:00 -
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I think most players appreciate the good things in eve and the good things about CCP as a company...but human nature being what it is we tend to complain about the things we see as 'wrong' and to keep quiet about the good parts.
"Good news does not sell newspapers"...as someone once said.
Also CCP have an unfortunate knack of making rods for their own back.
One example: Large fleet warfare in a single system is currently beyond the capacity of the hardware...this will change in time as the hardware/software is upgraded...however, CCP perhaps should have carried out a proper 'impact analysis' before introducing game mechanics that encouraged this type of blob warfare?
Similarly, the co-location of high quality L4 agents in certain systems in Empire could have been avoided with a little bit of impact analysis. The solution would have revealed itself...i.e. scrap the unnecessary agent quality system and spread out the agents?
So yes...there is much to praise about Eve and CCP...but both negative and positive feedback from customers is an essential part of the communications process for any company offering a service.
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General StarScream
THE DECEPTIC0NS
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Posted - 2007.10.14 12:43:00 -
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Ia agree ccp rocks. they have alot of good people working for them, and do alot of good,
they keep making this game better every patch.
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Madelchai
Gallente Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.10.14 12:46:00 -
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CCP has made a hell of a unique game here. Good luck to anyone in finding a better one.
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Wild Rho
Amarr Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.10.14 12:58:00 -
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People who are happy with the game are generally not compelled to come onto the forums and declare so, they're usually too busy enjoying themselves. People who aren't happy on the other hand often will be vocal about it, so it tends to create a lopsided view on the forums.
The fact the player count keeps increasing over each year is proof enough CCP is doing a good job and yeah they'll screw things up from time to time but that's life.
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Lothendra
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.14 12:58:00 -
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I like ccp, they may ******* things up once in a while but at least they talk about it
Now, where's my envelope stuffed full of used fivers? hello? helloooo?
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.14 13:25:00 -
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I pay them $15 a month. I feel that this is enough nice-ness, leaving me free to whine and moan.
But seriously, good job CCP, keep it up, I enjoy this forum... I mean game. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |
Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.10.14 13:27:00 -
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Err, official game forums are usually peopled by individuals who don't have issues. Or the forum *****s.
Users usually come here to complain about the game, find answers to their problems, fight with other people or just be grumpy bastards in general. Why would people make a lot of positive posts, unless it's contradicting some other poster who is talking crap?
Why are you surprised it's not a lovefest? If there were no problems, I expect the forum population would be 1/4 of what it is now...
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Thiago Aldanna
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Posted - 2007.10.14 17:55:00 -
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fan boi.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Laura Steel Hey Im paying for the damn thing arent I, what more do you want!
Whether you are paying for it or not, the fact is it wouldn't exist for you to enjoy if it weren't for CCP, and that is something to be grateful for.
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shortattenionsp
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:20:00 -
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Most of the whiners / I hate ccp people are ironically the ones that spend their entire life playing eve. The reason they whine so much is that eve is that they do almost nothing else, so small problems with the game have huge significance in their little lives. It always makes me laugh to see people ***** so much about a company, but they continue paying them and using their products. Thats not to say there not plenty of legitimate complaints about the game and improvements that could be made, just that the omg ccp is a **** company yet I still have 4 accounts people need to either stfu or play a different game.
Like all the nubbers who complain about the game not being able to handle 1500 players in the same system fighting each other. If you think you can write netcode that allows 1500 people to play together without lag, why not send it to ccp and help them out? Its almost like they think theres a "fix lag" button that one of the programmers forgot to press. Guess what, its not that f**king easy to code a complex game like eve to allow a thousand people to play together totally lag free.
Complaints are fine, aimless blanket whining about a company from iceland that employs a bunch of people that make the game you spend your life playing, just makes you look even more like a nerd living in your mums basement.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:23:00 -
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CCP is cool. Not perfect, slightly *** it seems, but cool.
Originally by: SirMolle Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:25:00 -
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I Support this posting. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare |
Bolly holly
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Theo Samaritan And to be entirely honest, its both true and sickening. All alot of you ******* seem to do is complain about eve, how this is broken, that is broken,this is laggy, that is laggy, its all CCP's fault, CCP arn't doing anything to help us blah blah blah bull****.
STFU and write again when you have been out of empire
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El'basin
Amarr The New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:36:00 -
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Good work CCP, love the game
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Kobushi
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:41:00 -
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CCP for teh win!!
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Dred Tather
Caldari Warp Riders Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:45:00 -
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Hate to say it, I have lived out in lowsec with theo for a while,
also yes CCP is good, they've been doing very well lately, and you cant criticise Rev 3.0 can you? :D
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minerdave
Gallente Ma-Ven Industries Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: minerdave on 14/10/2007 18:51:28 i can support dred there i know theo goes into low sec and zero sec. cos we used to talk about it all three of us on skype.
and on the subject of whining @ CCP. heres two options: either submit a bug report or STFU
SO SAYZ THE MAD SCOTSMAN!!! :P
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.10.14 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bolly holly STFU and write again when you have been out of empire
STFU and post with your main.
CCP does a great job, can't fault them a bit. ________ "It's a good day to die!" |
Mr McCargo
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Posted - 2007.10.14 19:03:00 -
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*Gasps* Y-you actually like CCP?
Ok ok, CCP rocks!! Give them some respect, people!
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.10.14 19:06:00 -
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I think CCP is well aware that unhappy costumers are always more vocal than the happy ones. The happy ones are busy playing the game. That is a business standard :)
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Riddick Valer
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Posted - 2007.10.14 19:17:00 -
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I fully support CCP, but I'd support them more if they'd change my name so the forum filters don't censor it.
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.10.14 19:28:00 -
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I have to say, I've always gotten better service from ccp than any from any other mmo... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
Theo Samaritan
Gallente Pheonix Reborn
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Posted - 2007.10.14 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bolly holly
STFU and write again when you have been out of empire
Lets see... fought against goon with LV during the start of EW1, got ousted from the drone regions with AoD... ______________________________ A Request About Lag Discussion -- Yet another "Edit my sig devs!" request \o/ |
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