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Alain Kinsella
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:07:00 -
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So far, the only 'annoying' thing about the chat is that they do not minimize inside the actual chat icon, but instead ends up in extra 'Info' icons. At least *use* extra 'chat' icons when you do that please - using an Info icon seems really confusing.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Alex Sinai
Constantly Causing Problems Everyone Enjoys
87
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Posted - 2012.02.04 08:38:00 -
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How the heck do i remove that chat button? Its extremely annoying and all the workarounds not work anymore.
Customizeable CCP? THAT is NOT customizeable but customized to YOUR liking, not ours. Make that button removable and kick that idiot who had the idea of making it permanent. This button annoys more then legion of bugs in your game. |
Rutilus
The Condemned and Convicted
0
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Posted - 2012.02.04 15:47:00 -
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Holy wow. I just logged into EVE after nearly a month away and this forced blinking BS had me logging out after less than 5 minutes.
Even with the chat window hidden by adding a metric kazillion buttons, the "hidden button" fricking flashes.
Fail, CCP; FAIL. Bad! No Biscuit!!
I'll be back if they fix it - if not, I'm cancelling my multiple accounts. UGH. |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.02.08 23:37:00 -
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I just reupped one of my alt accounts to discover that this workaround was patched out (I did it successfully on my other accounts but not this one). I cannot fathom a reason for patching out a great workaround to something that annoys the entire population other than to say, "**** you guys, how dare you point out our mistakes and then fix them. IT IS WORKING AS INTENDED DEAL WITH IT." It made me glad that I didn't sub it more than 1 month at a time, because I'm transferring the assets and closing the account, just because of that. Petty maybe, but this is getting rediculous. You can't tout your shiny new hammer as a swiss army knife without looking like a great bit arse, which is essentially what they have done. Calling something that is in no way more functional than the old neocom as 'better' and 'customizable' when one or both of those claims are patently false is just a fraudulent claim, pure and simple. |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
908
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Posted - 2012.02.09 04:48:00 -
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Korinne wrote:I just reupped one of my alt accounts to discover that this workaround was patched out (I did it successfully on my other accounts but not this one). I cannot fathom a reason for patching out a great workaround to something that annoys the entire population other than to say, "**** you guys, how dare you point out our mistakes and then fix them. IT IS WORKING AS INTENDED DEAL WITH IT." It made me glad that I didn't sub it more than 1 month at a time, because I'm transferring the assets and closing the account, just because of that. Petty maybe, but this is getting rediculous. You can't tout your shiny new hammer as a swiss army knife without looking like a great bit arse, which is essentially what they have done. Calling something that is in no way more functional than the old neocom as 'better' and 'customizable' when one or both of those claims are patently false is just a fraudulent claim, pure and simple.
Don't worry. They won't fix it. Only thing these r-tards care about is their monthly pay which they will apparently get as long they manage to get themselves to work in the morning and get something half finished and half working out once in a while.
In most companies it requires serious skills to upgrade stuff to worse and get away with the feedback. In CCP this is not a problem - for some it is a tradition and way of life. As long these kind of clowns work under that roof, this s*it keeps happening over and over again.
I am starting to realize that people involved are just in too high positions and too good friends with each other. It would be horrible to demote or fire a good friend even he is doing crappiest work in the company. H*ll it would be like nightmare to even mention about it to him. It is better that everyone just calm down and sink with the fail boat.
History keeps repeating itself over and over and over again and people wonder why eve subscription base isn't growing faster. Maybe it is because during updates you take 2 steps forward on some front and then someone else takes 2 step backwards on another. Very efficient and this is not even a joke.
"Break what is not broken and fix not what is" has been CCP's trademark for ages and it still is, but year 2012 has brought new twist to that. Now you have added "bling" to equation and ride with that like a boss. Functionality was too big for the bus and apparently got left home.
Yes and I'm really cool guy with all the constant whining, b*tching and insults. I am aware of that. You guys at CCP are allowed to hate me as much you want. Truth however is, that I know people who are already way past the point where I am today. I still care enough to come here and yell always when stupidity or ignorance takes place, but this will not continue much longer either. If you enjoy they day when I too shut my loud mouth (which you probably will) and think you have won - you have. The price however may be bit questionable on long term. Have fun with it.
Having said that - must add, that even I can be real a-hole I also know when to say thank you. For that people need to at least try to do their best and learn from the mistakes they make. Slouching around with half lights on praising stuff what is going to be released while still delivering half finished and half working crap won't get much fan mail. Specially if you really have balls to go even step further and (constantly) leave the junk to the tranq and just carry on like nothing happened.
End of another rant which lovely and kind forum mods hopefully manage ignore again.
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
612
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Posted - 2012.02.09 06:43:00 -
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I like that it looks cool. The UI has needed freshening up and streamlining for ever - but seriously the way chat blinks and minimises into separate windows if just plain daft. Daft I tell you. |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
224
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Posted - 2012.02.09 08:02:00 -
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And they wonder why nobody's working on game content.........
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
J3nny 8anks
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.02.09 10:16:00 -
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I think you guys need a life, it's just a bloody button!
OH NOES TAHT BOTTUN INFRINGAS MAI CIVIL RIGHTS AND BREAKS TEH GENEVA CONVENTION!!!1!
deal with it and htfu for crying out loud.. |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
910
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Posted - 2012.02.09 12:41:00 -
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J3nny 8anks wrote:I think you guys need a life, it's just a bloody button!
OH NOES TAHT BOTTUN INFRINGAS MAI CIVIL RIGHTS AND BREAKS TEH GENEVA CONVENTION!!!1!
deal with it and htfu for crying out loud.. I wish it was. The new neocom has many severe features missing/bugged which were working fine in old one. I don't wanna start listing them here as have made totally dedicated thread for that already.
Learn you case before starting to troll.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
951
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Posted - 2012.02.09 18:50:00 -
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Quote:Calling something that is in no way more functional than the old neocom as 'better' and 'customizable' when one or both of those claims are patently false is just a fraudulent claim, pure and simple.
Again, customizable does not mean "able to reconfigure every aspect".
The new Neo Com is much better in most respects, and is very costomizable. There is nothing "fraudulent" about this fact. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
910
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Posted - 2012.02.09 19:51:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Calling something that is in no way more functional than the old neocom as 'better' and 'customizable' when one or both of those claims are patently false is just a fraudulent claim, pure and simple. Again, customizable does not mean "able to reconfigure every aspect". The new Neo Com is much better in most respects, and is very costomizable. There is nothing "fraudulent" about this fact. Ok... as you wish... let's start listing crap in here also then...
New neocom offers:
- Forced reconfiguration of every character after deployment to get icons to the places they were in (many key icons are missing from the bar and are in wrong order). - Forced window location / size reset to several windows during deployment and apparently during neocom updates also. - Having a minimise button that makes thinks completely vanish killed window labels and ability to quickly and easily follow local count and blinking chat names. - Opening minimized chat windows takes 2 clicks and some menu browsing instead of 1 simple click. - You can not tell which chat is blinking by just looking the minimized window label. - In old neocom blink activated on event, blinked couple times and left icon highlighted for each new event. In new neocom 1st event activates permanent blink. No way to know about additional events than the 1st one. - Contract button doesn't light up at all. - Journal button doesn't light up at all. - There is very commonly used icons right next to the undock button. - Ships and items icons are in opposite order related to old neocom and they can not be switched around. - Random useless junk appearing to neocom bar when doing invention, opening cargo containers and so on. - Character name was removed making it harder to multibox and quickly tell which client you're using. - Increased memory usage (dunno if this got fixed already or not)
This list is probably not complete but most junk should be listed.
If someone honestly has guts to say that "The new Neo Com is much better in most respects", I would really want to know what those most respects are.
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Haemus Frigidus
10
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:03:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Calling something that is in no way more functional than the old neocom as 'better' and 'customizable' when one or both of those claims are patently false is just a fraudulent claim, pure and simple. Again, customizable does not mean "able to reconfigure every aspect". The new Neo Com is much better in most respects, and is very costomizable. There is nothing "fraudulent" about this fact.
The Dev Blog that stated "You will now be able to fully customize the Neocom according to your own play style; If you never use, say, the Corporation window, you can simply remove it from the Neocom." means what then? Just slang? ('fully sick!')
I never use the chat button..
Also, "The new neocom has many severe features missing/bugged which were working fine in old one." -v- |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
882
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:37:00 -
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My only gripe is that they didn't it as a beta like they had planned for the original implementation back in Jan 2011.
Woulda saved them everything in this thread.
Aside from that I'd be hard pressed to care less, I only have one other chat window that's minimized and i only minimize it cause it's the one of chat channels I don't use often but should still keep open so flashing button is minimal.
My only other problem is a personal one...in what order do I want my buttons xD The Drake is a Lie |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
971
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Posted - 2012.02.29 19:28:00 -
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Bump as the new neocom still needs update
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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
450
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Posted - 2012.02.29 19:36:00 -
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I don't want to remove the chat icon but:
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS HOLY, HOW THE FARK DO I MAKE IT STOP FLASHING!!!!!
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1044
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Posted - 2012.03.13 20:49:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:CCP Optimal wrote:We added the button to blink you all to oblivion, but you all outsmarted us once again ...
But, no, the button was not supposed to be removable. The blinking you all seem to love on the other hand was a mistake, and we're fixing that in the next patch; only minimized chat windows will make the button blink. We also recognize that the current design of how chat windows and the neocom play together is not as good as it should be, and we'll be looking into a better solution that takes chat grouping into account as well soon. And I mean soon, as in the actual meaning of that word. We're also making the chat channel entries much more compact which should make people with a high number of channels slightly happier.
I do not recommend removing the chat button as it may require you to reset your Neocom buttons at some point. It will, anyway, not be possible after next patch. Already did and I will am willing to remove my credit card details from this site also if you make this neocom crap cause me even single minute of reconfiguration on any of my clients again. I'm so fed up with entire thing already. Your team needs to get a grip and rethink about functionality over eye candy! -> Roll the god damn thing back as it was or fix all the annoyances. -> Put the default buttons as they were configured before the patch. -> Let me minimize my windows to bottom of screen so I can see their labels, -> I've gotten rid of the chat button. Make sure that the chat button will stay out. -> Fix the contract button as it doesn't blink anymore when there is new contract. -> Give me option to disable entire "windows menu" as I don't need it. All my all buttons will fit to one neocom row. -> I don't want any new objects like cargo containers or scanners appearing to neocom - fix it! The entire neocom was mistake. It does plenty of unimportant stuff with more clicks than before taking more memory than before and being harder to use and configure. It also doesn't offer all the features than the old one did and button placement is simply awful. Default stuff is hidden behind menus (like fleet and contracts) and user configured options from previous neocom were simply ignored and erased AGAIN. I am pissed because this entire neocom together with ninja name changes to missiles pretty much ruined this patch, which had plenty of good things also. OTHER TEAMS DID THEIR JOB VERY WELL BUT YOU GUYS SCREWED UP! NOW DEAL WITH IT.
WHAT PART OF -> I've gotten rid of the chat button. Make sure that the chat button will stay out. DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ???
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Soon Shin
Caucasian Culture Club Narwhals Ate My Duck
70
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Posted - 2012.03.13 21:24:00 -
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Do the Impossible
Unsee the Visible
ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA.
Touch the Untouchable
Break the Unbreakable |
James J Hill
Great Northern Sales
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:47:00 -
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Disdaine wrote: So we've gone from having minimised chat windows along the bottom of the screen with easily identifiable labels and channel count
I can see some desperate dev coming up with an 'improved' chat GUI, I mean they gotta get paid for some work some time. What puzzles me is that the management let this crap (i.e. the current system) be allowed into the game. How out of touch are they?
I want the old system back, it worked fine and I never remember seeing a post complaining about it.
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1045
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Posted - 2012.03.14 00:50:00 -
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Has someone found the bytes from the conf .dat file which control the chat button existence?
Obviously it would be against the eula to use hex editor to change em, so I am only asking to gain some higher wisdom and knowledge. Wouldn't even think about fixing the issues myself because I know that CCP will provide final solution to neocom very soonTM before year 3000.
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Barakkus
1520
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Posted - 2012.03.19 11:36:00 -
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doh, too early, reading fail. http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |
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Sol Asmodai
Tetraviri Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:42:00 -
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Ok... So 3 years since my last post... Why am I posting now? To say that I absolutely hate the chat button being WTForced onto the neocom. Absolutely hate it...
As a side note, I also absolutely hate that wrecks open as a subtree to ship inventory. I mean its a good idea, but having to maximize and then minimize that God-awful "My Filters***" tab for NO reason is VERY annoying... SERIOUSLY, right click > Settings PLEASE...
That is all... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2008
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:45:00 -
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Sol Asmodai wrote:Ok... So 3 years since my last post... Why am I posting now? To say that I absolutely hate the chat button being WTForced onto the neocom. Absolutely hate it... As a side note, I also absolutely hate that wrecks open as a subtree to ship inventory. I mean its a good idea, but having to maximize and then minimize that God-awful "My Settings" tab for NO reason is VERY annoying... SERIOUSLY, right click > Settings PLEASE... That is all...
It must drive you up a wall when a month has 31 days instead of 30. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Sol Asmodai
Tetraviri Initiative
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 21:51:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Sol Asmodai wrote:Ok... So 3 years since my last post... Why am I posting now? To say that I absolutely hate the chat button being WTForced onto the neocom. Absolutely hate it... As a side note, I also absolutely hate that wrecks open as a subtree to ship inventory. I mean its a good idea, but having to maximize and then minimize that God-awful "My Settings" tab for NO reason is VERY annoying... SERIOUSLY, right click > Settings PLEASE... That is all... It must drive you up a wall when a month has 31 days instead of 30.
No, I welcome useful additions to any given scenario such as an extra day in the month... However completely useless additions that offer absolutely nothing whatsoever to an otherwise decent thread does, indeed, annoy me to some degree. Why dont you try exerting a tiny bit of brain power at least, on something a little more constructive next time, eh? |
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