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EvE Justice
Gallente La.Cosa.Nostra
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Posted - 2007.10.16 21:33:00 -
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Username:***** Next:16. November 2007 14.95 EUR
Username:***** Next:17. October 2007 14.95 USD
Username:***** Next:23. October 2007 14.95 USD
Currently i own 3 accounts and i live in europe,2 of my accounts are from early 2003 and up to now i pay with my credit card in USD, my third account is less then a year old and i pay the same ammount in euro, and as you can see is mutch more expensive then the other 2, you may ask why would i point this to the public and not keep my mouth shut WELL i am like this and my question is WHY.?
CCP ?
GM Arkanon Those not banned today may rest assured that we will get them later.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.10.16 21:34:00 -
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Short Answer: VAT Long Answer: use forum search (or eve-search) =AFK=
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Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.10.16 21:41:00 -
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This has been publicly well known for ages.
If you can't switch your euro-account to USD, just buy GTC from shattered crystal using a pay-pal account (and USD) of course.
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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.10.16 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: EvE Justice Username:***** Next:16. November 2007 14.95 EUR
Username:***** Next:17. October 2007 14.95 USD
Username:***** Next:23. October 2007 14.95 USD
Currently i own 3 accounts and i live in europe,2 of my accounts are from early 2003 and up to now i pay with my credit card in USD, my third account is less then a year old and i pay the same ammount in euro, and as you can see is mutch more expensive then the other 2, you may ask why would i point this to the public and not keep my mouth shut WELL i am like this and my question is WHY.?
CCP ?
why does a hamburger cost different in the US and in EU? and the fuel? and the water? and and and... you think it's air you're breathing now?
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EvE Justice
Gallente La.Cosa.Nostra
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:01:00 -
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Well maybe i have not been so clear .. i do not have a problem if all my accounts where in euro or usd, i earn good money from my work to be able to pay eve in euro or usd. MY QUESTION IS why my 2 accounts charged in USD and 1 in EU, there is no logic to this..
or ?
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: EvE Justice MY QUESTION IS why my 2 accounts charged in USD and 1 in EU, there is no logic to this..
or ?
Contact Billing - I doubt they'll have a problem switching the USD accounts into EUR accounts... =AFK=
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:06:00 -
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If you live in EU you should pay in EUR, if you live outside the EU you should pay in USD
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you live in EU you should pay in EUR, if you live outside the EU you should pay in USD
maybe u could elaborate and explain how to change that? where exactly can he chose the currency?
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Elmicker on 16/10/2007 22:09:37
Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you live in EU you should pay in EUR, if you live outside the EU you should pay in USD
That's a 40% difference in price for europeans. How is that accounted for?
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Elmicker That's a 40% difference in price for europeans. How is that accounted for?
Partly European VAT, partly the dollar dropping like a rock (if prices get adjusted the dollar subscriptions will cost more, not the euro subs less) =AFK=
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EvE Justice
Gallente La.Cosa.Nostra
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador Contact Billing - I doubt they'll have a problem switching the USD accounts into EUR accounts...
Do you really beleive this ? Have you see lately what is going on with all this people and the problems they have with re activacion of there accounts, or what happens when they try to change Credit Card details ?
CCP ?
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EvE Justice
Gallente La.Cosa.Nostra
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you live in EU you should pay in EUR, if you live outside the EU you should pay in USD
thanks
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: EvE Justice Do you really beleive this ? Have you see lately what is going on with all this people and the problems they have with re activacion of there accounts, or what happens when they try to change Credit Card details ? CCP ?
Yes I really believe that. They had great service when I had a billing problem a few weeks ago. Changing the currency shouldn't be a problem at all for them. =AFK=
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KhaniKirai
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:15:00 -
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So why do we have to pay different prices then ccp?
And dont come up with the vat, because the vat is WAY lower then the exchange rate difference.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: KhaniKirai So why do we have to pay different prices then ccp?
And dont come up with the vat, because the vat is WAY lower then the exchange rate difference.
Post 10, this thread =AFK=
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:17:00 -
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The billing currency is decided somehow when you sign up, and we can esily change the currency as well.
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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EvE Justice
Gallente La.Cosa.Nostra
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: EvE Justice on 16/10/2007 22:20:30
Originally by: Estel Arador Yes I really believe that. They had great service when I had a billing problem a few weeks ago. Changing the currency shouldn't be a problem at all for them.
thanks you .. It is nice to know this cause i was a bit worried, now my trust to the well oiled CCP accounts department is restored.
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: Elmicker on 16/10/2007 22:25:39
Originally by: Estel Arador Partly European VAT, partly the dollar dropping like a rock (if prices get adjusted the dollar subscriptions will cost more, not the euro subs less)
So we're paying 15% over the maximum allowed rate of VAT (25%, actually more than that in almost all cases) because CCP can't be arsed to adjust their prices for a currency that has been at approximately 1.3-4:1 usd:eur for several months now?
(Or non-europeans are getting the equivalent discount, whichever way you look at it. But it shouldn't be this way - the taxed rate should not be the base)
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Elmicker So we're paying 15% over the maximum allowed rate of VAT (25%, actually more than that in almost all cases) because CCP can't be arsed to adjust their prices for a currency that has been at approximately 1.3-4:1 usd:eur for several months now?
(Or non-europeans are getting the equivalent discount, whichever way you look at it. But it shouldn't be this way - the taxed rate should not be the base)
No, part of the difference can be explained by VAT (making the EUR prices a little higher) and part of the difference can be explained by the dollar dropping (making the USD prices a little lower). If prices get adjusted, the USD price will rise while the EUR price stays put. =AFK=
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador If prices get adjusted, the USD price will rise while the EUR price stays put.
And? ATM we're paying through the teeth (well, we're not, most of us probably use american ETCs) in comparison to non-europeans who are getting a huge discount because of ccp's crappy practices with regards to currency.
If i buy something via paypal, i'm charged the correct rate of VAT, and am given a very fair currency exchange. All the while CCP are charging a rate of VAT that's 7.5% over my country's, and then putting another 15% on top and saying "Weak dollar", which is utter *******s because the dollar's been that weak for months on end. The recent crises are a matter of mere cents, if that.
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Slayton Ford
Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:38:00 -
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You know, as a American, there I times I appreciate the devalued dollar. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer... |
Mad Axe
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:43:00 -
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USD=EUR, for example you pay the same number of curency for 1 gallon of fuel as you do for 1L of fuel
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:55:00 -
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While lots of new signups are european.. can us affiliate sites please get paid in euro instead of the sucky USD?
Two years ago affiliates would make much more than we do today but the payouts havent been adjusted at all.
EVE PIRATE
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:56:00 -
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I was paying in the not so mighty dollar using my credit card. I wanted to change the period but if I did I would have had to use euros. So I left well alone.
But then one day I couldn't log in. Someone at CCP had decided that as peon of Betty 2 I had to pay in euros.
Of course, I bought a timecard, in dollars.
So, CCP, your devious plan to make me pay in euros backfired. Even worse for you, I feel less tied in to you now. I can take a break without worrying that I will have to pay more when I return.
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Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mad Axe USD=EUR, for example you pay the same number of curency for 1 gallon of fuel as you do for 1L of fuel
That was mean :D
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Gabba
The Three Hundred
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Posted - 2007.10.16 22:59:00 -
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Yeah but we arent creating a huge deficit keeping it that way, your kids will be paying for the gallons those nice 1.5 ton trucks are using
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.16 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
Originally by: Mad Axe USD=EUR, for example you pay the same number of curency for 1 gallon of fuel as you do for 1L of fuel
That was mean :D
Mean and innaccurate. The price difference there is entirely the cost of importation and taxation. There isn't a magical 15% discount/tariff that's been slipped in and passed off as a weak currency.
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.10.17 05:43:00 -
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I'd be quiet about things like this :p
See, originally the dollar was only slightly lower than the Euro, and in the EU you have to pay VAT, so the EU price took this into account.
Now the Dollar is dropping like a rock, what is likely to happen is the USD price would increase rather than the EU price decrease, but my bet is CCP are trying to treat their customers nicely and not passing on that cost.
If you are in the EU, and are paying with USD, it's you that are avoiding the VAT, and subject to whatever legal repercussions that entails. If CCP were not to pay the VAT on your behalf on subscriptions, it would be they who would be in legal hot water.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.10.17 05:57:00 -
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Hey, don't get all ****y because you've got a strong economy run by intelligent, forward-thinking politicians. If you don't want to pay so much, elect morons like we do.
I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
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Kayna Eelai
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Posted - 2007.10.17 06:30:00 -
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actually, if u can buy timecodes in dollars (aka: for LESS money) then all this stupid thing of having different currency is nonsense.
CCP, aren't u islandinc? what currency do you use there? go, charge in that currency and let paypal or VISA handle the exchange rate.
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