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Icarus Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 For background, see this thread.
Shortly after that thread, my character was renamed and I was issued a formal warning under this section of the EULA:
'No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity.'
How strange, considering. I've had to deal with one character who chose a name amazingly similar to mine about the time I won the BIG lottery, hoping to get my winnings. Now every time someone sets an escrow to me they have to make sure to select the correct name.
Guess I aught to petition and get the bloke's name forcefully changed? I doubt he's logged in since he was created all those years ago. -
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: MITSUK0
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Zy Nox Edited by: Zy Nox on 17/10/2007 15:00:49 Shame tbh sounds like a pretty good scam alt name.
Also it dosent mater if he was in the right or not, CCP employees should ALL be towing the same line, none of this hearing that its ok from one CCP guy one day and then getting wtf warned and name changed the next.
Edit: the petition system is like this too, its a coin toss as to wether you get someone who knows wtf he is talking about, someone who dosent care or someone who copy n pastes his replays.
probly an alt ^^
no **** sherlock - im not HIS alt though.
maby you are but you jsut dont know it 0_o --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING |
Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:06:00 -
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Dear Lawyer,
I dont understand why you dont think I have a case against McDonalds. As I stated in my previous memo, the warning on the coffee cup said "Caution, contents are HOT" It did not say that if I drank the coffee that I would burn my tongue. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 Wrong.
Why else would you have named your character practically identically, along with his corp to a well known source of ISK? Coincidence? I don't think so.
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 Insert step : CCP Wrangler said it was fine.
Wrangler didn't write the EULA. It's been stated on more than one occasion that the GM Team, not the Development team make descisions on people's complaints and petitions. Your point is irrelevant.
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 More like 'CCP did a 180...'
Wrong, the GM Team acted on the information they were given. They decide what is and isn't a breach of the EULA, not the Development team.
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 Correct, but it's also within the EULA, and Wrangler had no problem with it.
Again, the GM Team not the Development team make descisions on people's complaints and petitions. Your point is irrelevant.
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 Every scam in Eve depends on services people put time and effort into and fund out of their own pocket. Wrangler understands that, you don't seem to.
Again you twist words, like you're trying with the EULA. The services and costs INSIDE Eve when scammed INSIDE the game don't relate to any third party software that is being used outside of Eve's client that has to be developed and hosted.
Ripping off someone in game for a service that isn't scamming, it's impersonating that individual's character and has a detrimental effect on that person's out of game service.
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 Coming from someone who freely admits abusing cats, I'm not surprised.
Wtf? lol... I've been flamed a lot in the past by people who've disagreed with perfectly valid points I've made, but that's the most creative thing anyone's attempted to accuse me of yet
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:07:00 -
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This is very much like a shoplifter who gets caught, gets let off with a caution, and then tries to appeal the caution because the policeman stuttered slightly whilst reading his rights....
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:08:00 -
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This is my house.
House= owned by me.
If i say "Don't break things, don't pour booze on floor and don't hump my wife.", it does not mean you can **** on my floor, eat my cheese and make love to my cat!
Now...
This is EVE.
EVE=owned by CCP.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Deacon Ix
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak Dear Lawyer,
I dont understand why you dont think I have a case against McDonalds. As I stated in my previous memo, the warning on the coffee cup said "Caution, contents are HOT" It did not say that if I drank the coffee that I would burn my tongue.
win
Originally by: Steini OFSI The most efficient way to get a dev response is to have the word beer somewhere in your thread.
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Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Eve Corporation 20070532
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak Dear Lawyer,
I dont understand why you dont think I have a case against McDonalds. As I stated in my previous memo, the warning on the coffee cup said "Caution, contents are HOT" It did not say that if I drank the coffee that I would burn my tongue.
A bad analogy is like an overinflated rock.
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones If i say "Don't break things, don't pour booze on floor and don't hump my wife.", it does not mean you can **** on my floor, eat my cheese and make love to my cat! Sad
Awwww :(
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak Dear Lawyer,
I dont understand why you dont think I have a case against McDonalds. As I stated in my previous memo, the warning on the coffee cup said "Caution, contents are HOT" It did not say that if I drank the coffee that I would burn my tongue.
winrar \/ --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING |
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Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Eve Corporation 20070532
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Verone Wtf? lol... I've been flamed a lot in the past by people who've disagreed with perfectly valid points I've made, but that's the most creative thing anyone's attempted to accuse me of yet
Apologies, it must have been a different Verone who boasted of booting his neighbour's cat clean through the air.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:11:00 -
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awww... Poor Amarr Citizen. *sniff* Upset much? Maybe you should quit. Honestly EVE would be a much much better place without rules lawyering exploiters such as yourself.
Taxman III: Attack of the Blob
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Dominious
Gallente New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones This is my house.
House= owned by me.
If i say "Don't break things, don't pour booze on floor and don't hump my wife.", it does not mean you can **** on my floor, eat my cheese and make love to my cat!
Now...
This is EVE.
EVE=owned by CCP.
Very well put.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:11:00 -
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Sherif Jones:
you are my new hero
I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear
Someone found Jesus, please buff cloaking! |
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:13:00 -
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You can't impersonate any other character, corporation, alliance or organization. It's not limited to impersonating a character with another character and allowing a character to impersonate a corporation.
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler You can't impersonate any other character, corporation, alliance or organization. It's not limited to impersonating a character with another character and allowing a character to impersonate a corporation.
right from the horse's mouth --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING |
Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:15:00 -
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Hey Ammarr citizen!
Can I have your stuff?
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:15:00 -
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1. You tried to scam somebody. To achieve this one has to misrepresent a situation, that is, lie about something. CCP are fine with this as long as you do not impersonate CCP. 2. You got outed. 3. Sometime later, much later in fact, you got shafted.
At some point, CCP, or somebody acting on their behalf, changed or invented a CCP policy that you are not allowed to impersonate certain favourable people or organisations.
It took them seemingly two weeks to achieve this.
CCP do not have any good track to fall back on when it comes to truthfulness and honesty. Frankly, you are never going to know what happened.
SO!
Let's make some stuff up! One of us is bound to be correct.
I propose the following scenario.
Griefwatch is big and popular. Nobody likes scammers. A CCP / Greifwatch fanboi with his GM account decided to get involved and stiff you proper. To do this, he had to subtely manipulate himself into your petition or risk being exposed and getting slaughtered in a threadnought (you could be a goon alt for all he knows) or being savaged by the wet sponge that is Internal Affairs. (or Impotent Affairs, depends how you look at it)
Whether griefwatch paid the GM in real life dollars, since Griefwatch is a Real Life dollars entity or not can be added to this scenario as you see fit. Personally I think to suggest it is very offensive, so sure, why not
Anyone else care to suggest something?
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:15:00 -
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I take it back, Wrangler is the hero!
Jones just has mroe style
I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear
Someone found Jesus, please buff cloaking! |
Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Originally by: Sharupak Dear Lawyer,
I dont understand why you dont think I have a case against McDonalds. As I stated in my previous memo, the warning on the coffee cup said "Caution, contents are HOT" It did not say that if I drank the coffee that I would burn my tongue.
A bad analogy is like an overinflated rock.
cmon man, I have used this type of logic...with my sister when I was 7.
"I am not touching you!" "I am not touching you!" "I am not touching you!" "I am still not touching you!"
Its probably not in the Eula because CCP assumes a bit of deductive reasoning on your part. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You can't impersonate any other character, corporation, alliance or organization. It's not limited to impersonating a character with another character and allowing a character to impersonate a corporation.
Might want to fix your EULA then champ.
no he dosent, because im prety shure the community manager has no power over that --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING |
Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You can't impersonate any other character, corporation, alliance or organization. It's not limited to impersonating a character with another character and allowing a character to impersonate a corporation.
Might want to fix your EULA then champ.
The EULA and TOS are fine. Please train the following skills :
Reading Comprehension Lv I Common Sense I
i second this suggestion --------------------------- ALL HAIL TO THE TECHNOVIKING |
Dominious
Gallente New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You can't impersonate any other character, corporation, alliance or organization. It's not limited to impersonating a character with another character and allowing a character to impersonate a corporation.
Might want to fix your EULA then champ.
The only thing broken here is your logic. Fix that and everything else will make sense.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:21:00 -
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also consider Forum Troll 2 Message Board Rigging 1 and Small Flames Specialization 1
just so that its more sporting next time
I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear
Someone found Jesus, please buff cloaking! |
Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You can't impersonate any other character, corporation, alliance or organization. It's not limited to impersonating a character with another character and allowing a character to impersonate a corporation.
Might want to fix your EULA then champ.
The EULA and TOS are fine. Please train the following skills :
Reading Comprehension Lv I Common Sense I
i second this suggestion
I third it.
And would also suggest training:-
Interpretation of Rules L3
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Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Eve Corporation 20070532
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Verone The EULA and TOS are fine.
No, they aren't. See, I can make sweeping and unsupported statements too.
Quote: Common Sense I
Since I can actually read and comprehend that "character name" does not actually mean "corporation, alliance, or cat" (try to restrain the urge to swing your foot), I'm just going to ask what kind of "sense" (common or not) can MAKE "character" mean anything but character.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Originally by: Verone Perhaps the faceless alt will shut his face and go back to COAD now.
I've read COAD probably twice in 2 years, never posted there at all.
Just keep placating yourself with ill-formed stereotypes Kittykicker.
I think you're confusing me with someone else, or you read this thread a while back and have your wires crossed.
Were you also aware that pirates in Eve are bad people, who in real life beat up old people and eat small children?
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Originally by: Verone The EULA and TOS are fine.
No, they aren't. See, I can make sweeping and unsupported statements too.
If there were issues with CCP's EULA, I think their legal advisors would probably be on top of it pretty quickly.
The EULA has been in place since before release, with no issues.
It's fine. You're wrong. Your scam didn't work.
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Amarr Citizen 2007091000
Eve Corporation 20070532
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Verone I think you're confusing me with someone else
No, I'm certain it was your voice that uttered the words.
Either you kicked your neighbour's cat or you lied about kicking your neighbour's cat to appear "cool".
Neither option improves my opinion of you.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.17 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 2007091000 Neither option improves my opinion of you.
Oh no... however will I sleep tonight knowing that... [/sarcasm]
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