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Rogueweapon
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:10:00 -
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.20 09:20:00 -
[122]
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 20/10/2007 09:22:05
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 19/10/2007 10:57:42
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
And alliances that harbor such money-laundering types from time to time?
Players shouldn't have the responibility to avoid authorised (such as to harbour a corp) interaction with isk-farming characters nor should they be punished if they ever fail to detect one.
This is all rubbish anyway. I wonder how many pilots/alliances posting in this thread have bought GTC to sell for ISK to fund thier activities ingame?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Yeah...thought so. Spare me the self-righteous indignation at the "ISK farmer peril". At least they ain't directly trying to kill me by opening RL wallets to buy characters and other toys
Would CCP care to comment on THAT situation?
I'm not holding my breath.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:54:00 -
[123]
*Pin drops*
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.20 12:24:00 -
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new node character
regiment fund.
Has you180,000,001 Publication220,000,001 Sigh magnetism130,000,001 Swims across200,000,001 Makes you200,000,001 Diligently you250,000,001 Law not270,000,001 Regardless minute220,000,001 Unimpeded250,000,001 Military person330,000,001 Closed river330,000,001 Doublet smoke140,000,001 Assembly hall300,000,001 Origin you320,000,001 Scene obtains78,000,001 Zhu liya280,000,001 Vera nicard400,000,001 Bans entire200,000,001 diligently me200,000,001 Evaluation because200,000,001 Relocation of161,000,001 Geography law200,000,001 Thanks every200,000,001 Resists stubbornly228,000,001 Smallturret400,000,001 Jin jisi140,000,001 Al a'snow300,000,001 Camenozjl300,000,001 Poiew300,000,001 Registered permanent150,000,001 The motive's50,000,001 Jack eyes100,000,001 Starts spacially130,000,001 Jams many200,000,001 Shi pomfu200,000,001 Superhuman li200,000,001
total of 7,957,000,036 in single item auctions in 24 hours. ---------------------------
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.20 12:32:00 -
[125]
*tink*
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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fugimi
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Posted - 2007.10.20 12:47:00 -
[126]
Edited by: fugimi on 20/10/2007 12:47:53
Originally by: Secretary new node character
Thats what im talking about, nice work.
hmm some of the characters in this node list also been in the other node lists so it seem theres trails connecting those nodes to other nodes.
makes u wonder how big this perticular monster is....
this is a work for a special CCP crime unit which focus on isk selling and other criminal aspects of eve and not for a yeah ok i'll have a gm look at this and ban a few accounts.
is 1 dedicated GM fighting isk selling is too much to ask ? and what about letting a dev write a few lines of code designed to fight isk selling spam ? is that too much to ask too ?
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Suze'Rain
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Posted - 2007.10.20 12:59:00 -
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what we need done is to start "outing" the people who're buying the isk.
not the fences and laundering to cover the trails, but the scumbag cheating little ****s who are paying for the isk, and making it worth the farmers and sellers opening up shop.
personally, I'd say it's time they were found out, and that whol can or worms dealt with
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.20 13:30:00 -
[128]
it would be nice to know that "justice" is being done but ccp's policy is that they don't discuss matters of that nature.
Out the nodal characters. assume ccp are tracking where all that isk goes and confiscating it from the end purchasers. If they're not then we can't do anything about it anyhow.
the fact that a new node character turned up in the last 24 hours and is shifting 8 billion isk odd suggests ccp are banning the ones already named. I would hope that ccp wait for the auctions to be claimed, ban the node character account and then track the isk to end purchasers.
If the farmers can't get their isk to a purchaser, they'll stop farming. if the purchasers know they're going to lose their real money and the isk they'll stop buying.
Prices on everything will go up and more people will buy white market isk though secure ccp trades. everyone is happy! sort of. ---------------------------
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fugimi
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Posted - 2007.10.20 15:28:00 -
[129]
check this thread
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=617679
check contract history on the char "qinlv". its similar to the isk selling networks we've seen in this thread but seem to be more creative sometime in the choice and varaity of "null items" in contracts. there is a trail there u can follow which will lead to other chars involved in "somthing".
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caldaricitizin000011
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Posted - 2007.10.20 15:43:00 -
[130]
I suggest a pop-up for all trial players that shows up within 5 minutes of logging on and can not be closed within 10 seconds of its arrival.
"BUYING ISK FOR REAL MONEY IS ILLEGAL AND TRACKABLE"
Perhaps people think they cant be caught?
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.20 16:30:00 -
[131]
Originally by: fugimi
check contract history on the char "qinlv".
35 billion isk received by qinlv through these funny contracts over the course of 40 days. Not bad going for a new character. must have done a lot of mining on his 5 other accounts or something.
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Supernauta
Tropa de Elite The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.21 00:02:00 -
[132]
This has been one of the most interesting things I've seen done here in a while. Thank you! --------------------------------------- Violence is not the answer. It is the question. The answer is yes. |
F90OEX
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Posted - 2007.10.21 00:12:00 -
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CCP for the 100th time, when we going to get trial accounts removed from the trade and the other channels. REV 10 ???
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Robinete Broadhead
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.21 05:18:00 -
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Edited by: Robinete Broadhead on 21/10/2007 05:18:54
Originally by: Pooka
Now the bigger questions are Who are the Sellers and Who are the buyyers? Which Allainace is selling and/ or buying. Now that would be interesting to find out.
I checked some of the names and added them to my address book, the ones I choice had 5.0 security ratings. Guess which buyers were still online this morning. Auction won = 620,000,000.00 1 FOF missle 10 month player = 600,000,001.001 FOF missle1 yr player = 650,000,001.001 FOF missle1 yr player So which allaince just recived 1,870,000,002.00 ISK and can I get a loan? Say 1/2 a billion please? On second though, no thanks I know that this is dirty ISK and don't want it! Wonder why others can see that it is dirty.
Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.21 06:49:00 -
[135]
Set all the starting corporations to -10 standing. as you travel through the galaxy scan local for these degenerates. Check the contract activity for a random sample. If the same name pops up for an auction no sane person would accept, check contract activity for those names. Add the people involved in contracts with these folks to address book and check their contract activity every couple of days.
As node characters are banned, new ones will pop up but the farmers will remain active so it's trivial to locate the node characters.
Hours of fun. ---------------------------
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Rosa Rosette
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Posted - 2007.10.21 07:39:00 -
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dear regiment fund!
can i have your stuff please?
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bellator militaris
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Posted - 2007.10.21 07:47:00 -
[137]
Please, get in line and take a number. Your turn will come. Bellator Militaris SPQR.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.21 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 21/10/2007 08:19:21
Originally by: Rosa Rosette dear regiment fund!
can i have your stuff please?
If he gave you any of it you'd probably be banned along with him as an isk buyer...
My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.21 08:28:00 -
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Congrats to the OP!!!! CCP has now responded and removed one drop from the bucket full.
I have an idea, move all Chinese IP toons to the China server... Remove the ability for a trial toon to post in trade channels..... aggressively go after accounts that seem to be active running missions, mining for 23/7 EVERY moment the servers are up.
If we got rid of every isk spammer, farmer, transferers, you may also realize that you do not need so many RAMSAN updates.
I thought it was great when Eve hit 30k pilots online at once. I now realize that probably 1/3 of them were chinese macroers, isk sellers....
The idea that so many illegal accounts contribute about 150-200k in income to CCP per month used to make me think that CCP didn't care. But as they see the player base rise up in arms over this kind of activity, they have to realize that they are going to face a revolt sooner or later from their loyal, EULA abiding players.
I agree with other's posts that a public acknowledgment of the problem and an ongoing communication with the players as to what is being done to reduce this type of activity is sorely needed.
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Minmatar Escapee
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Posted - 2007.10.21 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: SengH if you wanna see something really suspcious
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=84993
hai guys im a 1 month old noob who suddenly has the isk to buy 20billion isk worth of skillbooks and move it in a shuttle.
There is a problem with this website's security certificate. The security certificate presented by this website was not issued by a trusted certificate authority.
Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server. ============= Damn, Pandemic Legion Ganked my web browsing. lol.
CCP, get off your asses and please start getting forensic accountants involved.
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Nanahonka
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Posted - 2007.10.21 09:53:00 -
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Here is an good example for community information about Anit-RMT activity:
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/2348/detail.html
And
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news11347.shtml
In my opinion CCP should do the same
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citizen amarr33sd3g4
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Posted - 2007.10.21 14:54:00 -
[142]
Originally by: caldaricitizin000011 I suggest a pop-up for all trial players that shows up within 5 minutes of logging on and can not be closed within 10 seconds of its arrival.
"BUYING ISK FOR REAL MONEY IS ILLEGAL AND TRACKABLE"
Perhaps people think they cant be caught?
Stop the buyers so the sellers can't sell.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.10.21 14:57:00 -
[143]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 20/10/2007 09:22:05
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 19/10/2007 10:57:42
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
And alliances that harbor such money-laundering types from time to time?
Players shouldn't have the responibility to avoid authorised (such as to harbour a corp) interaction with isk-farming characters nor should they be punished if they ever fail to detect one.
This is all rubbish anyway. I wonder how many pilots/alliances posting in this thread have bought GTC to sell for ISK to fund thier activities ingame?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Yeah...thought so. Spare me the self-righteous indignation at the "ISK farmer peril". At least they ain't directly trying to kill me by opening RL wallets to buy characters and other toys
Would CCP care to comment on THAT situation?
I'm not holding my breath.
buying isk is gain an advantage over other players is different from paying for multiple accounts.... how? ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |
Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.10.21 14:59:00 -
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This thread is absolutely insane. I guess people should start linking it to the gaming sites and digg and all that other nonsense so CCP actually does something that will make a difference.
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |
Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.10.21 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 20/10/2007 09:22:05
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 19/10/2007 10:57:42
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
And alliances that harbor such money-laundering types from time to time?
Players shouldn't have the responibility to avoid authorised (such as to harbour a corp) interaction with isk-farming characters nor should they be punished if they ever fail to detect one.
This is all rubbish anyway. I wonder how many pilots/alliances posting in this thread have bought GTC to sell for ISK to fund thier activities ingame?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Yeah...thought so. Spare me the self-righteous indignation at the "ISK farmer peril". At least they ain't directly trying to kill me by opening RL wallets to buy characters and other toys
Would CCP care to comment on THAT situation?
I'm not holding my breath.
My post wasnÆt supporting isk farmers: I was merely trying to stress the importance of not letting their existence affect the common Eve-playerÆs play style.
ThereÆs a fundamental rift among people; those who are willing to sacrifice a part of their freedom to gain a little security and those who arenÆt.
IÆm sorry if you failed to understand this.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.21 17:42:00 -
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CCP is good about being tight lipped about everything.
if it is not good PR, or cannot be spun in a positive light they usually will not put it out.
GMs withdrawing cash from players for buying isk? Minor setback. TRY BANS NEXT TIME.
Better yet, roll the damned character back like someone else suggested in another thread.. (all that will do is cause an isk buyer to transfer all assets to another account, or use other accounts to filter isk without fear of the rollback on a main.. so.. still like the idea )
There are a few of us that have been fighting isk farming in eve for a really long time... Voogru, myself, guys in UCAM... Between all of us we have spent more man-years fighting isk farmers than eve's entire existence from the time it was an idea.
And, CCP has hurt our activites... it is a ton harder to hisec gank an isk farmer...
But, check this out...
'twtnydc 12' sells a dread guristas invul field to a legit player for 310 million isk
'Danlan shaais' sells an ibis for 300 million isk to twtnydc 12 This transfers the isk back up to 'Danlan shaais'
'Danlan shaais' looks like a small hub character, quite a few high isk contracts going there for 1 cruise missle, or 1 ibis.
But, if you REALLY want to see some nice loot, check out: 'karley' He appears to get the good loot and sell it for the other farmers.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.21 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 20/10/2007 09:22:05
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 19/10/2007 10:57:42
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
And alliances that harbor such money-laundering types from time to time?
Players shouldn't have the responibility to avoid authorised (such as to harbour a corp) interaction with isk-farming characters nor should they be punished if they ever fail to detect one.
This is all rubbish anyway. I wonder how many pilots/alliances posting in this thread have bought GTC to sell for ISK to fund thier activities ingame?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Yeah...thought so. Spare me the self-righteous indignation at the "ISK farmer peril". At least they ain't directly trying to kill me by opening RL wallets to buy characters and other toys
Would CCP care to comment on THAT situation?
I'm not holding my breath.
My post wasnÆt supporting isk farmers: I was merely trying to stress the importance of not letting their existence affect the common Eve-playerÆs play style.
ThereÆs a fundamental rift among people; those who are willing to sacrifice a part of their freedom to gain a little security and those who arenÆt.
IÆm sorry if you failed to understand this.
I'll be concise (after some research and lambasting elsewhere):
It is hypocritical to scream about the "isk-farmer peril" when there is a CCP-sanctioned method for buying ISK via GTC sales. Either way some players will buy ISK for cash to give them a perceived advantage ingame...the only difference being who's real life wallet expands-CCP's or the ISK-seller.
It's great that folks care enough about the game to chase farmer/sellers..but whats the point when any idiot with a few extra bucks can buy themselves a top-line pilot/ingame toys simply by purchasing GTC's for ISK resale.
Clear enough?
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.10.21 18:52:00 -
[148]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 20/10/2007 09:22:05
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 19/10/2007 10:57:42
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
And alliances that harbor such money-laundering types from time to time?
Players shouldn't have the responibility to avoid authorised (such as to harbour a corp) interaction with isk-farming characters nor should they be punished if they ever fail to detect one.
This is all rubbish anyway. I wonder how many pilots/alliances posting in this thread have bought GTC to sell for ISK to fund thier activities ingame?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Yeah...thought so. Spare me the self-righteous indignation at the "ISK farmer peril". At least they ain't directly trying to kill me by opening RL wallets to buy characters and other toys
Would CCP care to comment on THAT situation?
I'm not holding my breath.
My post wasnÆt supporting isk farmers: I was merely trying to stress the importance of not letting their existence affect the common Eve-playerÆs play style.
ThereÆs a fundamental rift among people; those who are willing to sacrifice a part of their freedom to gain a little security and those who arenÆt.
IÆm sorry if you failed to understand this.
I'll be concise (after some research and lambasting elsewhere):
It is hypocritical to scream about the "isk-farmer peril" when there is a CCP-sanctioned method for buying ISK via GTC sales. Either way some players will buy ISK for cash to give them a perceived advantage ingame...the only difference being who's real life wallet expands-CCP's or the ISK-seller.
It's great that folks care enough about the game to chase farmer/sellers..but whats the point when any idiot with a few extra bucks can buy themselves a top-line pilot/ingame toys simply by purchasing GTC's for ISK resale.
Clear enough?
Please point out how my posts have any relevance at all to your complaint about GTC-trade?
Do I ever mention GTC-trade in my post? If so, please point that out as well.
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citizen amarr33sd3g4
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Posted - 2007.10.22 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: RuleoftheBone
I'll be concise (after some research and lambasting elsewhere):
It is hypocritical to scream about the "isk-farmer peril" when there is a CCP-sanctioned method for buying ISK via GTC sales. Either way some players will buy ISK for cash to give them a perceived advantage ingame...the only difference being who's real life wallet expands-CCP's or the ISK-seller.
It's great that folks care enough about the game to chase farmer/sellers..but whats the point when any idiot with a few extra bucks can buy themselves a top-line pilot/ingame toys simply by purchasing GTC's for ISK resale.
Clear enough?
It is an unfortunate fact of EVE.
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gojwer
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Posted - 2007.10.22 08:08:00 -
[150]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 20/10/2007 09:22:05
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 19/10/2007 10:57:42
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
And alliances that harbor such money-laundering types from time to time?
Players shouldn't have the responibility to avoid authorised (such as to harbour a corp) interaction with isk-farming characters nor should they be punished if they ever fail to detect one.
This is all rubbish anyway. I wonder how many pilots/alliances posting in this thread have bought GTC to sell for ISK to fund thier activities ingame?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Yeah...thought so. Spare me the self-righteous indignation at the "ISK farmer peril". At least they ain't directly trying to kill me by opening RL wallets to buy characters and other toys
Would CCP care to comment on THAT situation?
I'm not holding my breath.
My post wasnÆt supporting isk farmers: I was merely trying to stress the importance of not letting their existence affect the common Eve-playerÆs play style.
ThereÆs a fundamental rift among people; those who are willing to sacrifice a part of their freedom to gain a little security and those who arenÆt.
IÆm sorry if you failed to understand this.
I'll be concise (after some research and lambasting elsewhere):
It is hypocritical to scream about the "isk-farmer peril" when there is a CCP-sanctioned method for buying ISK via GTC sales. Either way some players will buy ISK for cash to give them a perceived advantage ingame...the only difference being who's real life wallet expands-CCP's or the ISK-seller.
It's great that folks care enough about the game to chase farmer/sellers..but whats the point when any idiot with a few extra bucks can buy themselves a top-line pilot/ingame toys simply by purchasing GTC's for ISK resale.
Clear enough?
30 day GTCs will get you around 170-190 million isk. that 15 dollars for that much. you can get billions for 5 dollars from a isk seller. I really dont see how you can claim thats no different.
yes, if a player cheats and tries to buy isk illegally, they are supporting metagamers and infringement of copyright and intellectual property, as well as ruining the in game economy and pushing legitimate players fun out of any possibility of existing. u = fail
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