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6Bagheera9
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.22 23:52:00 -
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I sincerely applaud your efforts to combat isk farmers and isk sellers. We in OSNAP try out hardest to exterminate these vermin and have met with some success. If I should ever run into you in <0.5 space I pledge to at least spare your pod and possibly your ship, circumstances permitting. Should you not be using any implants, I will also upon request send you home and give your corpse a respectful cremation. God speed in your cause.
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Pango Ein
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Posted - 2007.10.23 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
Then why are the same 60+ characters buying 1 unit of ammo or water off contracts for 100-400M Isk each day since.
New bagmen since 10/19 : Regiment fund, Wealth regiment, Head paste
Banning the bagmen have no effect if they just make a new one the next day.
I guess Isk farming is ok if you just give it to an disposable alt to sell. By the way if you show contracts on Wealth regiment you can see a nice list of all the real isk farmers/couriers, like Jin Jisi, Superhuman Li, shi Pomfu, thimage, aodaman, Zhu Liya, poiew, camenozjl, smallturret, and Vera nicard.
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F90OEX
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Posted - 2007.10.23 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: F90OEX on 23/10/2007 05:57:04
Originally by: F90OEX
Originally by: ZeroMbutCannotJump Here is my contribution. I painstakingly went through all the already accepted contacts I could find and made an excel spreadsheet. Tons of contracts are up and waiting for more reverse transfers to occur. I noticed the names for the most part follow a similar convention. Two words, first is capital and second is not. Random nouns, sometimes with a strange adjective thrown in. All sound weird and very "babel fish Asian" like. I opened convo with one and pasted some romanized Chinese. He replied within 10 seconds with some complicated stuff...no idea what it means.
Sorry for the horrible formating. Anyways, who knows how much these people have actually made and sold (Only CCP, if they wanted)... this could be only one of their transaction methods...and only one of their "nodes."
Assembly hall .... 1m 3d SWA 102
^^^ thats one of the names that I saw in the lowsec system going back and fourth in a Bestower between 2 systems like the rest of them.
Well looks like Assembly hall .... is not one of them banned. I'm sitting in lowsec looking @ 68 china farmers in local and Assembly hall is in a Bestower beside me at the gate
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.10.23 05:58:00 -
[184]
I think my new sig fits this thread well.
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F90OEX
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Posted - 2007.10.23 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: F90OEX on 23/10/2007 06:27:10 Edited by: F90OEX on 23/10/2007 06:26:42 70 in local atm 67 are NPC bots running around in shuttles and bestowers. Down the list is the same kinda names in local as pictured.
Bots in local
Wanna put your carrier or Mothership in use and become a -10 overnight this is the system
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Yon89
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Posted - 2007.10.23 06:36:00 -
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LOL I swore at an idk seller and got kicked before he did
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.23 07:44:00 -
[187]
Don't swear in local then
and people petition all the dodgy contracts you can - with as much info as you can - also make sure you get the names right -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & RaTTuS Home
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.23 07:57:00 -
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new nodwe : head paste ---------------------------
The signature. Here i can type my Bio.
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Jaxxon Voers
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Posted - 2007.10.23 08:23:00 -
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played a long time now...never got to upset about the BoB thing, or so many of the other obvious rampant nasty things going on. But this one really bugs me. Because quite frankly, CCP has made such a **** poor effort to control the problem that I suspect complicity. I am starting to think that CCP gets a cut from some of these groups or something, since they sure have no interest in stopping it.
The channels are hell, no ISD can possibly keep up with the insane reproductive rate of these Chinese spam masters. The systems are hell, who can actually enjoy a plex with 30 farmers stealing every item for 23hrs a day. In the Tvink COSMOS plex there is a toon "Woman Scorned"...you can find that Jaguar there anytime the game is online. At the very least that account must be guilty of account sharing, which is a EULA violation. Unless there is actually someone out there who can play Eve on 7 hrs of sleep a week. I cant, I have tried.
Nice thread OP, good hunting. Now if there was only someway to hold CCP's balls to the fire and get them to protect the people who play the game the way it was intended.
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Major Death
Caldari Space Salvage Incorperated
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Posted - 2007.10.23 09:16:00 -
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Why are NPC corp 23/7 pharming accounts allow to exist in the game? How much time is now spend clearing up the forums because trail accounts can spam them with isk adverts? Are CCP more concerned with Fanfest than with sorting the current problem out?
My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was removed for lack of EVE content! ;) |
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Jimblob
Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.10.23 11:48:00 -
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it's perfectly possible for a player to be online 23/7 without being accused of account sharing.
Certain titan pilots are well known for their ability to play every hour the server is up. ............................... Data i post are my opinions, I am not a spokesperson for my corp or alliance. |
Loyal Servant
Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: F90OEX
70 in local atm 67 are NPC bots running around in shuttles and bestowers. Down the list is the same kinda names in local as pictured.
Bots in local
Wanna put your carrier or Mothership in use and become a -10 overnight this is the system
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well, we don't announce these things very often, but we've banned the people involved in this "Large Scale Criminal Activity".
Uh.... see why people ask for proof. Care to elaborate?
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.23 14:57:00 -
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What we really need right now is some sort of announcement by ccp of a major change to the game dynamics to create thousands of threadnaughts.
Something that will create a lot of fuss so the continuing farming of hundreds of isk selling accounts can remain a quiet background topic.
But who would we get to take the blame for such a thing?
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The signature. Here i can type my Bio.
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YunFu Yan
Yan Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.23 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: YunFu Yan on 23/10/2007 15:36:12 Edited by: YunFu Yan on 23/10/2007 15:34:08 I don't understand why active subscribers here are doing the work of CCP staff...
It takes less than a hand full of queries during maintenance time to 'tag' supsicious accounts.
Another query and you'd have the node characters.
Then just automaticly ban all chars that transferred isk to the node and you're done.
It's not rocket science... it's simple SQL. It can be done automagically. The only reason CCP would have to not do it would be that they benefit from the isk sales.
Give me create-statements for the tables holding contracts and market data and I'd write you those queries in a matter of minutes!
Yan Enterprises - We mean business. |
Arnold Duncan
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Posted - 2007.10.23 15:39:00 -
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Is it legal to try to scam them? Like putting similar contracts or so?
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.23 19:43:00 -
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i don't see why not. Scamming people is permitted and encouraged. It's what makes Eve the game it is.
So yeah, if you can scam them go for it.
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The signature. Here i can type my Bio.
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Pango Ein
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Posted - 2007.10.24 03:54:00 -
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Todays Isk Farmer Bagman/node is "with milk". If you hurry you can buy 2 Iridium Charge S for 400M Isk in the Jovainnon system. As usual all the usual suspects have already made their purchases.
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ZeroMbutCannotJump
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: ZeroMbutCannotJump on 24/10/2007 13:06:22 Wowzers! Do this! Open up contracts and search for any high-end faction item. Look at the list of names of people selling them. Some/many of them will be "weird" sounding like many of the names listed in this thread. Look at the corp histories and contract histories of said characters. If you dig around, many of them link to SOME OF THE PEOPLE LISTED ON THIS THREAD, like Jin Jisi (who is still not banned, and seems to be a major node for both ISK and faction items). You will also find a very disproportionately high amount of "weirdly spelled names that look like they originate from a certain oriental country."
In short, many of the same people doing these highly suspicious reverse ISK transfers also have ties with major faction item sellers.
Start looking at who is selling high end faction/officer gear and you will find tons of names like these there.
Here are some interesting faction related farmer looking people to get you started: Some may be innocent, but some look extremely suspicious.
Mucica Caldari Woman Ailaiweiyou CJMS xiao520 <--- big Fasarina dede o <---- links with Jin Jisi
Also, unrelated to the above, but still related to suspicious looking people:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=620660 This guy looks a bit (but not as much as the others, TBH) suspicious. Looking at his posting history, he buys GTCs for several other silly named people (silly name does not instantly equal guilty), many of them the exact same age as himself and from SWA. Standings-wise, they also look like the courier mission running people listed way earlier in this thread. Also, one or two of them link into massive faction item trade...and by going through who has sold what to who, I linked back to Jin Jisi, who links into everything. So I guess this paragraph may be related to the rest.
aliner ada yama greender yuancongxin01 <--- looked at his forum posts to get these names yuancongxin02 InoueOrihime Achurakoenig Rihannah
So.... have at it people. What do you think?
Oh, and *bump*
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Lillith Rajani
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:25:00 -
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*bump* Back to page 1 with this thread and I hope they uncover and ban 'm all
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fugimi
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:33:00 -
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I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. All public channel's are in complete chaos, or scared of losing control. The Isk buys a nickel's work, trade hubs are going bust, highsec traders keep a gun under their freighter. Punks are running
wild in the regions and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know space is unfit to live in and the system is unfit to ban, and we sit watching our corp channel while some local newsletter tells us that today we had fifteen suicides and sixty-three isk selling crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like
everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't undock anymore. We sit on the station, and slowly the space we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our channels. Let me have my peace and my daily chat and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I
want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your GM because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the isk sellers and the crime in space. All I know is that first you've got to get mad.
You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My character has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get out of your pods. I want you to get out right now and go to the forum. Open it, and click your heart out, and yell,
I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!'
I want you to get up right now, login, go to your forums, open them and click your heart out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to post, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then
we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the isk selling crisis. But first get out of your pods,
go to the forum, open the thread, click your heart out, and yell, and say it:
"I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"
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Dex Treme
Amarr Pardit Lastor Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.24 21:53:00 -
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/signed OP
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:10:00 -
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How is this still unresolved?
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |
Hellspawn01
Amarr Shadow Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.10.24 22:36:00 -
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I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!
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Mecha Polcha
Colonial Merchant Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.24 23:06:00 -
[204]
At last... I can agree with Fugimi... good point made there.
It should be a top priority...
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Secretary
Bargain consumables
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:51:00 -
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happyforever receives 862 mil isk over the course of 4 days from "the whites".
Nice starter gift for a 4 day old character.
I liked Network too. ---------------------------
The signature. Here i can type my Bio.
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Ess Erbe
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.10.26 04:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ess Erbe on 26/10/2007 04:17:27 Jovainnon and other systems with high-level couriers are still full of shuttles and bestowers.
CCP seriously.
We love you and all, but this is ridiculous.
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Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.26 04:33:00 -
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For the love of Eve, CCP, fix this damn thing already! This is pretty damn ridiculous...
Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance. |
Loyal Servant
Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.26 05:37:00 -
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IT is obvious that the characters that were 'banned' are still tossing out the usual contracts.
Just look them up. I can find 2 or 3 nodes from just 5 names on my list of isk farmers I keep in my addressbook in a 5 minute timeframe.
Sending in a petition just to try it = canned 'we are looking into it' response with an immediately closed petition.
CCP is friendly to gold farmers, that much is clear.
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Pango Ein
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Posted - 2007.10.26 15:55:00 -
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Todays Isk Farmer/Bagman/node is "Actor". All the usual suspects have already made their purchases.
If this was within the game rules why do they make a new disposable alt every other day?
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Loyal Servant
Caldari Viper Intel Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.10.26 17:44:00 -
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CCP has seen this thread, and their employees have responded to it.
They tell tales of bans, but the 'banned' group is on my address book and online.. at various times.
Bumping this to the top every day as some of you have done only reinforces the very well known fact that CCP loves their money and they are not going to ban accounts that use GTCs because then the GTCs would not be bought, which would hurt them and the companies that SELL these GTCs. (isk farmer accounts are all paid with GTCs)
The problem here is not enough community outrage, because 75% of the eve population does not care, and that CCP like money, as in 'REAL' ISK, a.k.a Icelandic kr=na :)
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