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Cikulisuy
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:13:00 -
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well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:15:00 -
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fitted right, amarr ships are stronger ________________ Kali 3.0 Patchnotes: Amarr Oompf!
-Armageddon: +1 Missile Slot -Omen: Autocannon RoF Bonus -Apocalypse: 5% Mining Bonus
-Zealot: +10% more golden hull |
General Apocalypse
Amarr Ship Research
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:16:00 -
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Our ships can't even suck anymore cuz nos got nerfed so our ships are USELESS .
Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz
Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
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Vitaki
Rens 911
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:19:00 -
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Abaddon is one of the best ships in the game. It's big limiter is cap, so it sucks big for mission running. Geddon is your best bet there, with Dual heavy pulse. It will do the same damage as the Abaddon because of the larger drone bay.
In pvp the best setup seems to be a gigantic passive tank and a heatsink or two.
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Heartcarver
X Bane X
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:21:00 -
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Abba is awesome for missions.
7 Mega Beams 1 Tracking comp, 1 sensor booster, 2 cap rechargers 2's
1 Lar II, couple of hardners or EAN II if ur lazy (and know missions so u dont die)
2 Heat sink 2 rest is CPR II with 3 ccc rigs
You can perma run everything
Use T2 drones for frigs
Stop whining
"The point of war isn't to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his" |
General Apocalypse
Amarr Ship Research
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Heartcarver Abba is awesome for missions.
7 Mega Beams 1 Tracking comp, 1 sensor booster, 2 cap rechargers 2's
1 Lar II, couple of hardners or EAN II if ur lazy (and know missions so u dont die)
2 Heat sink 2 rest is CPR II with 3 ccc rigs
You can perma run everything
Use T2 drones for frigs
Stop whining
/me/ slaps Heartcarver so hard tat the hood falls off . We're talking pvp here young one , go back to missions . You guns are shiny , they don't have blood on them .
Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz
Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Perry fitted right, amarr ships are stronger
Than what? Belt rats?
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Deathnail
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:30:00 -
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Really, I don't know what to do with my amarr start up character. Was going to go solo Curse/Pilgrim setup. 3 Days before I hit cruiser 5 they announced the Nos Nerf. I want to PvP with him so I am thinking Sacrilege.
But overall, I really doubt you will see anyone starting an Amarr character for PvP these days.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Vitaki Abaddon is one of the best Amarr ships in the game.
Fixed.
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.18 18:49:00 -
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I'm Gallente/Amarr specced... yet I still find myself flying Amarr ships more often.
That said, I only fly a FEW of them. Most of them do suck fat hairy balls.
However I don't see what's wrong with Abaddon. I love the ship. Pulse+plates for pvp station hugging goodness - it also blazes through lvl4s.
Curse, Sac, and Abso are also great for pvp. The others... ehhh no.
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Heartcarver
X Bane X
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse
Originally by: Heartcarver Abba is awesome for missions.
7 Mega Beams 1 Tracking comp, 1 sensor booster, 2 cap rechargers 2's
1 Lar II, couple of hardners or EAN II if ur lazy (and know missions so u dont die)
2 Heat sink 2 rest is CPR II with 3 ccc rigs
You can perma run everything
Use T2 drones for frigs
Stop whining
/me/ slaps Heartcarver so hard tat the hood falls off . We're talking pvp here young one , go back to missions . You guns are shiny , they don't have blood on them .
/me slaps you back till your char grows hair ^^
Amarr are fine in pvp too ;p
"The point of war isn't to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his" |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Heartcarver
Originally by: General Apocalypse
Originally by: Heartcarver Abba is awesome for missions.
7 Mega Beams 1 Tracking comp, 1 sensor booster, 2 cap rechargers 2's
1 Lar II, couple of hardners or EAN II if ur lazy (and know missions so u dont die)
2 Heat sink 2 rest is CPR II with 3 ccc rigs
You can perma run everything
Use T2 drones for frigs
Stop whining
/me/ slaps Heartcarver so hard tat the hood falls off . We're talking pvp here young one , go back to missions . You guns are shiny , they don't have blood on them .
/me slaps you back till your char grows hair ^^
Amarr are fine in pvp too ;p
More than 3.6 million ships active in EVE. Amount of Caldari spaceships flying in space: 1.2 million Gallente: 1 million Minmatar: 670 thousand Amarr: 635 thousand
Source: Dev blog.
Oh yeah im sure amarr is just fine...
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
More than 3.6 million ships active in EVE. Amount of Caldari Carebears flying in space: 1.2 million Gallente Nobrainers: 1 million Minmatar Vagabond Pilots: 670 thousand Amarr skilled Pros: 635 thousand
Source: Crystall Ball.
Oh yeah im sure amarr is almost just fine...
fixed ________________ Kali 3.0 Patchnotes: Amarr Oompf!
-Armageddon: +1 Missile Slot -Omen: Autocannon RoF Bonus -Apocalypse: 5% Mining Bonus
-Zealot: +10% more golden hull |
Akashyi
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:35:00 -
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stop whining, i flew amarr for like 2 years and didnt even think theyre op then theres all these posts literally probobly 100 of them about how bad amarr are. (and a solution to your thread: accept the fact dual injectors are the only way for this ship or get a geddon. kk)
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Sarah Benthwell
Dolaris Holdings
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:36:00 -
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AMARR ARE FINE FFS. STOP WHINING YOU KEEP GETTING THEM BOOSTED.
Im seriously tempted to cross train to amarr. _______ shig |
Xequecal
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Posted - 2007.10.18 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Perry
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
More than 3.6 million ships active in EVE. Amount of Caldari Carebears flying in space: 1.2 million Gallente Nobrainers: 1 million Minmatar Vagabond Pilots: 670 thousand Amarr skilled Pros: 635 thousand
Source: Crystall Ball.
Oh yeah im sure amarr is almost just fine...
fixed
Lol, no seriously ill link the source: here
but the other edits were funny
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General Apocalypse
Amarr Ship Research
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: General Apocalypse on 18/10/2007 20:20:40
Originally by: Sarah Benthwell AMARR ARE FINE FFS. STOP WHINING YOU KEEP GETTING THEM BOOSTED.
Im seriously tempted to cross train to amarr.
The idiot is strong in this one
Originally by: Heartcarver
/me slaps you back till your char grows hair ^^
Amarr are fine in pvp too ;p
Would you pls duel my mega whit your abaddon pls ?
Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz
Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
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Compendium
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:20:00 -
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That's an impressive increase in faction use for Caldari mission runners.
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
Lets run those numbers thru the omni tank (80/60/60/60) filter shall we?
Abaddon = 340 dPS Megatrh = 504 DPS
Why not include capuse in that figuring?
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
Lets run those numbers thru the omni tank (80/60/60/60) filter shall we?
Abaddon = 340 dPS Megatrh = 504 DPS
Why not include capuse in that figuring?
Exactly, lets not forget the dmg type. gg pwnd!
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joydivision
Duty.
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:53:00 -
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Your Abaddon doesn't suck, you do.
Duty. - Peace through negotiable firepower |
Proto Tron
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:55:00 -
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As this seems to be a PVP thread, here is a question about Abaddon's low slots, is it better to have: 1.a passive omi resist tank with EA (nano, therm,kin, exp), DC and topped with HS(s) or 2. same as above but with LAR instead of HS or 3. 2 1600 plates, DC, EA nano, and more HS(s)
Under what conditions would you pick either? http://eve-files.com/dl/113127 |
madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
Lets run those numbers thru the omni tank (80/60/60/60) filter shall we?
Abaddon = 340 dPS Megatrh = 504 DPS
Why not include capuse in that figuring?
Why would anyone tank EM that hard now that amarr is this rare? I personally go 3* hardener + DCU II. No point tanking EM that hard. _________________________________________________ Breetime
A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
Fenren
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Posted - 2007.10.18 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: Fenren on 18/10/2007 20:58:44
Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
Lets run those numbers thru the omni tank (80/60/60/60) filter shall we?
Abaddon = 340 dPS Megatrh = 504 DPS
Why not include capuse in that figuring?
include range in that too
short range guns doesnt normally function so well outside webb range....
webb the Mega at 8 km and see who does the most damage.
raw dps isnt all.
edit: I would go with option 3, proto
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Fenren Edited by: Fenren on 18/10/2007 20:58:44
Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
Lets run those numbers thru the omni tank (80/60/60/60) filter shall we?
Abaddon = 340 dPS Megatrh = 504 DPS
Why not include capuse in that figuring?
include range in that too
short range guns doesnt normally function so well outside webb range....
webb the Mega at 8 km and see who does the most damage.
raw dps isnt all.
edit: I would go with option 3, proto
Blasters outdamage pulses out to 14km fyi. @ 8 km the mega will still close on the abaddon, then start orbiting and the abaddons DPS will equal 0, won't matter by then because the abaddon willl be capped out. Above 14km the mega can either close (and moment will carry him thru webber range) or run away. Basically the abaddon is helpless.
Midrange is an unenforceable and unattainable advantage for amarr and caldari ships.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.10.18 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Fenren Edited by: Fenren on 18/10/2007 20:58:44
Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
Lets run those numbers thru the omni tank (80/60/60/60) filter shall we?
Abaddon = 340 dPS Megatrh = 504 DPS
Why not include capuse in that figuring?
include range in that too
short range guns doesnt normally function so well outside webb range....
webb the Mega at 8 km and see who does the most damage.
raw dps isnt all.
edit: I would go with option 3, proto
Blasters outdamage pulses out to 14km fyi. @ 8 km the mega will still close on the abaddon, then start orbiting and the abaddons DPS will equal 0, won't matter by then because the abaddon willl be capped out. Above 14km the mega can either close (and moment will carry him thru webber range) or run away. Basically the abaddon is helpless.
Midrange is an unenforceable and unattainable advantage for amarr and caldari ships.
I like the way you throw back worthless arguments of your opponents back in their faces like that. :-p
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.10.18 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: shinsushi on 18/10/2007 21:11:14
Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: shinsushi
Originally by: Xequecal Edited by: Xequecal on 18/10/2007 19:38:05
Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
8x Mega Pulse II
MWD II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor Heavy Capacitor Booster II
3x Heat Sink II 2x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plate EANM II Internal Force Field Array I
3x Trimark Armor Pump I
Does 1126 DPS. Pretty good compared to a Blasterthron's 1250, and you can switch crystals to get massive range that the blasterthron can't.
Lets run those numbers thru the omni tank (80/60/60/60) filter shall we?
Abaddon = 340 dPS Megatrh = 504 DPS
Why not include capuse in that figuring?
Why would anyone tank EM that hard now that amarr is this rare? I personally go 3* hardener + DCU II. No point tanking EM that hard.
because your setup takes 4 slots, mine takes three.
On a mega, your setup has 66/75/72/65 using 128 CPU and 4.2 cap/sec Mine has 80/68/68/55 using 102 CPU and less than 1 cap per sec and one more slot.
I can throw on a 1600mm plate for 78k hp (effective), yours will have 64k effective HP. Same amount of slots.
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murder one
Gallente Blood Corsair's
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Posted - 2007.10.18 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cikulisuy well im an abaddon pilot, and the only way i can actually maintain cap is to fit 3 CCCs and a whole bunch of cap recharger IIs, (i use pulses because of the ridiculous PG requirements on beams) i cant put a webber or scrammer on because then i cap out in the middle of a fight and die. and i still eventually run out of cap! i use dual injectors sometimes, but you can still run out of charges, and the minmatar bastard is running a dual rep tank with no probs, and he can actually fit ewar /end frustrated rant
User error.
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.18 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse Our ships can't even suck anymore cuz nos got nerfed so our ships are USELESS .
Adapt or die =========================
*No cookies for you!* *Mr Nerf-O-Whine himself* ========================= |
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