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Boma Airaken Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.10.19 10:03:00 - [1] As of 2007.10.19 07:07:00, Momentum Alliance added itself to the list of corporations aiding the APEX Conglomerate in its war against The Cyrene Initiative. This alliance is host to the Brotherhood of Shadows, a well known pirate organization, as well as Challenger Logistics Corporation, which was asked to leave the alliance after its CEO orchestrated the theft of two billion isk worth of my own assets. To APEX, seriously, nice flip flop. It is pretty obvious where you stand now. Slinking back to a dirty thief on the sly to prevent your imminent destruction? The sleaze is thick. Have anything to say for yourselves? You are starting to look rather shady. I am ashamed.
Irias Salo Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium	Posted - 2007.10.19 10:22:00 - [2] This is going to get interesting. As for your allegations against APEX, it seems ATTC was correct in our decision not to aid them. Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
PiF Gallente TAKAGI Corp	Posted - 2007.10.19 10:29:00 - [3] It's always in stressful times that items get out of the shadows and show their true nature. Before assessing anything more, TAKAGI Corp would like to hear from Apex about this.
Admiral Derooy Caldari Caldari Special Operations Division APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.19 11:07:00 - [4] Mr. Airaken, I advise that before you start pointing the finger towards anyone, you point it to yourself first. With Friendly Regards Admiral Derooy Admiral of the Fleet, CSOD PS: This is my personal opinion!
Roy Gordon Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium	Posted - 2007.10.19 11:08:00 - [5] I would ask for EVERYONE not to make rash judgements or assumptions about this matter until it has been fully investigated. For all we know, these other corporations may have decided to join the fray without the knowledge or consent of APEX. I believe the term is 'innocent until PROVED guilty'. That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest!
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.10.19 11:10:00 - [6] Mr. Gordon, this is a little too convenient to be regarded as coincidence. ---
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.10.19 11:17:00 - [7] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Mr. Gordon, this is a little too convenient to be regarded as coincidence. Of course if "convenient" was the only criteria for truth there is a whole slew of things that would be true, and many of them wouldn't be all that flattering for the Gallente federation or its allies. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Boma Airaken Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.10.19 22:34:00 - [8] Originally by: Admiral Derooy Edited by: Admiral Derooy on 19/10/2007 11:39:09 Mr. Airaken, I advise that before you start pointing the finger towards anyone, you point it to yourself first. With Friendly Regards Admiral Derooy Admiral of the Fleet, CSOD PS: This is my personal opinion! PPS: Someone ought to smack ya head repeatedly and drive a Rokh up ya rearside in order to give ya somesort of backbone, ya spineless wannabe stringpuller! Perhaps you would like to turn this cryptic statement into an accusation? I have absolutely nothing to hide.
Jen Oniera Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.10.19 23:51:00 - [9] It's a curious and often desirable side effect with conflicts of this intensity that history, often hidden, becomes revealed. The past events alluded to in the original statement are distasteful; the perpetrators of that injurious scheme survive and prosper. It is fair and understandable that those harmed would wish to bring to light these sour crimes and lambast those who might knowingly associate with such miscreants. However, these events are vested in the past and bear no great relevance to our current situations. Whilst friends and foes alike may form friendships with those their peers dislike and rightly receive question, friend should not turn to foe, though all should be held accountable for their actions. The Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu watches this conflict with great interest and does hope that the parties in vendetta come to a conclusion swiftly and with words of reason and lucid judgment, rather than voices raised in anger and actions hastened by rage.
Vendrin Caldari APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 01:12:00 - [10] Boma, I believe Derooy was referring to the fact that you are a double faced, **** spewing liar, and that you aren't nearly as smart as you think you are. _____________________________________ APEX Conglomerate is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!

Boma Airaken Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.10.20 01:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Vendrin Edited by: Vendrin on 20/10/2007 01:18:51 Boma, I believe Derooy was referring to the fact that you are a double faced, **** spewing liar, and that you aren't nearly as smart as you think you are. Care to elaborate? Offer up some proof? Or are we sticking to baseless obnoxious insults now?
Vendrin Caldari APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 01:23:00 - [12] No I don't. Those who associate with you for any length of time know the truth. _____________________________________ APEX Conglomerate is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Boma Airaken Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.10.20 01:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Vendrin No I don't. Those who associate with you for any length of time know the truth. I figured you had nothing to back your statements up with. Anyways, I have said my piece and you have said yours. The rest of the community can formulate their own opinions.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Naughty People The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.10.20 01:39:00 - [14] Boma, I happen to have a fresh corpse from one Admiral Derooy in my meat locker. You seem to enjoy beating dead horses, so make me an offer and beat this one to your heart's content. _ Never believe anything until it has been officially denied. Originally by: CCP Prism X This topic is so full of fail >.<
Yukiko Ume Caldari Ume Logistics	Posted - 2007.10.20 02:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Boma Airaken ...Challenger Logistics Corporation, which was asked to leave the APEX Conglomerate after its CEO orchestrated the theft of two billion isk worth of my own assets. Are there transcripts somewhere detailing this affair?! I'm sorry, but I've been locked away in the labs so much over the last few months I somehow missed it!
Irias Salo Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium	Posted - 2007.10.20 11:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Vendrin No I don't. Those who associate with you for any length of time know the truth. I've always found Boma to be a man of his word, and I have associated with him for a considerable length of time. I have also had his story about having two billion in assets confirmed, by present and ex APEX members, however as they have asked me not to reveal their names, as they do not wish to suffer any consequences, I shall not name them. Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
PiF Gallente TAKAGI Corp	Posted - 2007.10.20 11:52:00 - [17] We, at TAKAGI Corp, would still like to read an official statement from Apex about theses pirates, M. Vendrin. Did you or did you not hire them ? And do you or do you not condone them ?
Tek Avellos Caldari APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 14:58:00 - [18] Originally by: Irias Salo Originally by: Vendrin No I don't. Those who associate with you for any length of time know the truth. I've always found Boma to be a man of his word, and I have associated with him for a considerable length of time. I have also had his story about having two billion in assets confirmed, by present and ex APEX members, however as they have asked me not to reveal their names, as they do not wish to suffer any consequences, I shall not name them. I doubt any present or ex APEX members would have anything to do with you Irias. It would take weeks to wash the stink out of their clothes. Your thinly veiled insults are growing tiresome.
Irias Salo Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium	Posted - 2007.10.20 15:08:00 - [19] Edited by: Irias Salo on 20/10/2007 15:08:27 Any chance to attack me eh Tek? If you consider what I said an insult then I advise checking a dictionary. All I gave was my opinion of Boma and that I've had his story checked out. Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
Cloora APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 17:14:00 - [20] I would have a hard time beleiveing anything that Boma says. He is mad at APEX from his former employment here when he was unable to perform his duties as Diplomatic Officer. He came into APEX promising the world and delivered nothing. In fact APEX was worse off for its relations with him. He brought his "buddies" into our alliance like CHALC and HARLO. When HARLO wouldn't even follow his orders to not "smack" in local channels he left in frustration. Funny thing is that all his "buddies" that caused his frustration left after that anyways. So we SHOULD have no formal ties with him at all now. But because of the character that Boma is, he tries to setup APEX at any opportunity possible. We have caught him in lies constantly. He is a two faced manipulator that uses 10% truths to pass 90% BS by you. Anyone that takes his side has fallen to his manipulations and I feel sorry for you.

DarkNicodimus Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.10.20 18:49:00 - [21] Isnt it quit funny how Apex continues to ignor questions directed at them regarding there hiring of a known pirate corp. With all the mercs avaiable they hire them. I would not hesitate to suggest that there is some" I help you , you help me" going on behind close doors. Maybe Apex cant answer the direct question. I would quess they cant find a way to spin it to there advantage. --- --- It was a sad day for Anti-Pirates when the skill book "Advanced Docking" was introduced
Cloora APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 18:53:00 - [22] Edited by: Cloora on 20/10/2007 18:56:14 I have no idea on that situation.
Vendrin Caldari APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.20 20:52:00 - [23] Originally by: DarkNicodimus Isnt it quit funny how Apex continues to ignor questions directed at them regarding there hiring of a known pirate corp. With all the mercs avaiable they hire them. I would not hesitate to suggest that there is some" I help you , you help me" going on behind close doors. Maybe Apex cant answer the direct question. I would quess they cant find a way to spin it to there advantage. You have pilots with negative security status in your alliance, yes? Obviously you employ pirates in your alliance. gasp Defenders of the Federation consorting with pirates and worse. How riveting. Momentum is efficient, and that was our prime requisite for hiring them. Past associations with some of their members such as Challenger Logistics(who left of their own volition, not because we asked them) will make it easier to work with them, another reason we hired them over other mercenary corporations. And finally, as for the accusation of thievery, that is not really an accusation for CHALC to defend or not as they so choose, as it has nothing to do with why we hired them. _____________________________________ APEX Conglomerate is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Boma Airaken Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.10.21 02:02:00 - [24] Edited by: Boma Airaken on 21/10/2007 02:04:16 Edited by: Boma Airaken on 21/10/2007 02:03:02 Originally by: Cloora I would have a hard time beleiveing anything that Boma says. He is mad at APEX from his former employment here when he was unable to perform his duties as Diplomatic Officer. He came into APEX promising the world and delivered nothing. In fact APEX was worse off for its relations with him. He brought his "buddies" into our alliance like CHALC and HARLO. When HARLO wouldn't even follow his orders to not "smack" in local channels he left in frustration. Funny thing is that all his "buddies" that caused his frustration left after that anyways. So we SHOULD have no formal ties with him at all now. But because of the character that Boma is, he tries to setup APEX at any opportunity possible. We have caught him in lies constantly. He is a two faced manipulator that uses 10% truths to pass 90% BS by you. Anyone that takes his side has fallen to his manipulations and I feel sorry for you. 1. I have never been "mad" at, or held any ill will towards APEX, until now. 2. The day you manage to negotiate even one NAP between your pint sized alliance and anyone else in SOCT controlled Geminate, you can say that I failed in my position as diplomatic officer. I did the best I could, and there were successes as well as failures. Do a better job and get back to me on this one. 3. What exactly did I promise? And saying I delivered nothing completely and totally contradicts my wallet journal and contract logs. As I recall, many members of APEX benefitted from my efforts to empower both the alliance, and individual members. 4. Regarding HARLO and the "smack" issues, while it was a problem, the fact of the matter is that many members of the alliance refused to respect a very simple request from their at-the-time diplomatic officer. 5. My "buddies" left because, as Vendrin said, "anyone who associates with him for any period of time knows the truth". Loyalty can be a problem for some. 6. Name one situation in which I attempted to "set APEX up". And provide proof please. I am not setting anybody up, I am making a public service announcement. 7. "We have caught him in lies constantly". Prove it. 8. "We have caught him in lies constantly. He is a two faced manipulator that uses 10% truths to pass 90% BS by you." Prove it. 9. "Anyone that takes his side has fallen to his manipulations and I feel sorry for you." Prove it.
Boma Airaken Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu	Posted - 2007.10.27 22:50:00 - [25] Due to the absolute lack of proof presented, with well over a week of opportunity for the accusers to present said proof, I am obviously not guilty of any said allegations and consider my name cleared in this matter. I would advise any and all parties who endeavor to sully a pilots name while ignoring all of the genuine contributions that pilot has made to your organization to be very sure that they have the proof to back it up. Now that my name is clear I see no further reason to be involved in communications regarding APEX or its respective pilots.
Karl Schmidt Caldari APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.28 16:25:00 - [26] I think the boss just got bored of your accusations Boma. ------------------------ APEX Renegade Agent

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