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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:47:00 -
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meh, either way, serves you right for thinking you can get away with being a random pathological ******* to someone for no reason.
Edit: Is anyone else getting really really tired of CCP's censorship?
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Honnete Du Decimer
8
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:48:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Alpheias wrote:... It is frankly a terrible idea, because I don't see how you could avoid risking exposure of sensitive information like where you live, email and so forth.
Because I have multiple accounts and if they can be identified belonging to me, then so can I (as a person) and if I pop some unsuspecting slob like the OP in a hulk or whatever, then he can identify my accounts because he has access to information I confide in CCP that they won't share with anyone. actually they already have the ability to track accounts using the same ip. try logging in a trial account and an active account at the same time, from the same IP even on separate machines. it would be easy to group accounts by referencing credit card numbers and IP used to log on. there are workarounds for this using proxy servers and such but most gankers are not smart enough to know how to do that.
I add also, you read CCP meeting record the bot man is no want use program for find people that GM can check after. I think he little crazy. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
348
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:51:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:meh, either way, serves you right for thinking you can get away with being a random pathological ******* to someone for no reason.
Nope, taking in-game actions into out of game consequences is bad. You want to get revenge, do it on the same terms they ganked you: using in-game mechanics.
For that, though, you have to get off your ass and do something, and not expect CCP to hand it to you on a plate. The same way you have to get off your ass and tank your PvE ship so random gankers can't just pop it.
If you defend yourself against throwaway account gankers, then only people ganking with high-SP characters will get you -- and those are likely their mains, which can be more easily hunted down than alts. |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:52:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Bugsy VanHalen wrote: actually they already have the ability to track accounts using the same ip. try logging in a trial account and an active account at the same time, from the same IP even on separate machines. it would be easy to group accounts by referencing credit card numbers and IP used to log on. there are workarounds for this using proxy servers and such but most gankers are not smart enough to know how to do that.
Have you... even read what I wrote? IP address filtering for trial accounts works because you likely won't have multiple people behind a firewall using trial accounts. You can very likely have multiple Eve players behind a firewall all playing Eve. Heck, I often do, and it's not me and a bunch of alts, I guarantee you. On top of that, IP addresses can be spoofed and can switch depending on your ISP. It's also easier than you think to use a proxy server.
you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
348
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:54:00 -
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Honnete Du Decimer wrote: I add also, you read CCP meeting record the bot man is no want use program for find people that GM can check after. I think he little crazy.
Yeah, CCP Sreegs not wanting to use behavioral analysis to track down bots is a bit dumb, but that's another topic. |
Honnete Du Decimer
8
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:55:00 -
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Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Tracert - path - ISP. Log on time. Swap talk, I no want list all but many way for slip and show your account join if one person. |
baltec1
482
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:55:00 -
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Honnete Du Decimer wrote:baltec1 wrote:... When you have stupids like this it becomes a moot matter. Industrial pilots have many ways to defend themselves, its not the falt of the ganker if they chose not to use any of them. Some way prevent. No way cure unless T1 Frigate. Good industrial catch and good ganker - always ganker win. Only super stupid ganker fail. Prevent. No react. No revenge. No good.
I own:
A Blocade runner which is invincible in high and low sec space. Nothing can catch one unless the pilot is bad.
A super tank Deep space transport with a bigger buffer than many battleships. You need a fleet to kill it before concord comes and nukes you.
As I said, only the stupids get killed easily. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
348
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Posted - 2012.01.25 17:57:00 -
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Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Thanks, an utterly uninformative post about me being wrong due to not having enough information, but not giving the information. I work in programming (high level generally), and to my knowledge everything I said is correct. If you work in a lower level field and feel like you can shed additional light on how CCP could possibly better track and link accounts together, do tell. |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
9
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:02:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Quote:What this idea would do is push consequences for Eve behavior into the RL world, and nobody needs that. lololololol Gankers and Scammers are scared of the FBI :D No, more like of the dude next door in your dorm getting pissed at you for getting his Eve character wardecced because some dude you were making life hard for got access to the name of every character of everyone at your IP address. The FBI has nothing to do with this.
I agree that is totally possible. But most EVE accounts logged in from the same IP at the same time are alt accounts for the same person.
There are exceptions, like you said living in a dorm, personally I would find out who you were and see how you liked getting ganked in real life. nothing illegal but a good practical joke to embarrass the crap out of you.
I was not agreeing that allowing agro to alt accounts was a good idea, only that the tools do exist to connect alt accounts to a common real life person. it is not fool proof and there are exceptions. But it can be done. |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:04:00 -
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Honnete Du Decimer wrote:Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Tracert - path - ISP. Log on time. Swap talk, I no want list all but many way for slip and show your account join if one person.
tracert got nothing to do whith IP it show hoops of neud (i don't know how to translate 'neud' in english)
ISP (is not tool is short for Internet Service Provider) how that anded in you sentance got no clue
Log on time ???????? Swap talk ????????????????????????????
i can make you log in two accounts from same IP (as beginning) but it will take lots of work, and what is funny when i hear ppl talk about my work and proxy is that they don't know what realy is http proxy.
Like i say read materials. |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
348
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:08:00 -
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Honnete Du Decimer wrote:Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Tracert - path - ISP. Log on time. Swap talk, I no want list all but many way for slip and show your account join if one person. Tracert is a good point, as CCP does have access to running commands on your computer. Still, stuff like that makes me nervous. It's against the "your alts are different people" aspect of how Eve works, and breaks immersion bigtime. |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:14:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Thanks, an utterly uninformative post about me being wrong due to not having enough information, but not giving the information. I work in programming (high level generally), and to my knowledge everything I said is correct. If you work in a lower level field and feel like you can shed additional light on how CCP could possibly better track and link accounts together, do tell.
mayby you can tell me what certificate (certificate is not the right word) you studdy for ?
Programing got nothing to do whith (enginer in system and network) i will be surprised if you know (in detail) how packets travel on ethernet segment. Is hard for me to explain something on this subject simply cos my englesh is low lvl and i will need to use lots of tehnical words that i got no clue what are they in english. I study 3 years before i pased the exam (ofc it was not all on Cisco and Nortel) but when i see my old couse on transleting TCP/IP 'entetes in hexadecimal i doubt i could explain enything to any one in few minuts words. But when i seen that you claim taht IP spoofing is easy it made me jump from my seat, we are not talking about changing MAC adress whith somme scrip kiddy sofware there hold youre horses. |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:16:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Honnete Du Decimer wrote:Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Tracert - path - ISP. Log on time. Swap talk, I no want list all but many way for slip and show your account join if one person. Tracert is a good point, as CCP does have access to running commands on your computer. Still, stuff like that makes me nervous. It's against the "your alts are different people" aspect of how Eve works, and breaks immersion bigtime.
I bolded what is huge statemant is against law's to take hand or be able to do something on comiuter whith out advising the owner first (there is name for it is called hacking) and in my country jail sentances are rarely lignt on that mather. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
426
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:19:00 -
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Tian Nu wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Thanks, an utterly uninformative post about me being wrong due to not having enough information, but not giving the information. I work in programming (high level generally), and to my knowledge everything I said is correct. If you work in a lower level field and feel like you can shed additional light on how CCP could possibly better track and link accounts together, do tell. mayby you can tell me what certificate (certificate is not the right word) you studdy for ? Programing got nothing to do whith (enginer in system and network) i will be surprised if you know (in detail) how packets travel on ethernet segment. Is hard for me to explain something on this subject simply cos my englesh is low lvl and i will need to use lots of tehnical words that i got no clue what are they in english. I study 3 years before i pased the exam (ofc it was not all on Cisco and Nortel) but when i see my old couse on transleting TCP/IP 'entetes in hexadecimal i doubt i could explain enything to any one in few minuts words. But when i seen that you claim taht IP spoofing is easy it made me jump from my seat, we are not talking about changing MAC adress whith somme scrip kiddy sofware there hold youre horses.
Kinda pointless to know what you do if you can't communicate properly in English, no?
Your posts are like reading a essay by a script kiddie... I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:25:00 -
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The truth is there are ships in EVE that simply are not space worthy. It's like riding a bicycle on the freeway. You just don't do it. These ships don't even need extreme adversity. All ships are destroyable with extreme force. Some are incapable of even absorbing minimal damage.
An Iteron can't be fit to survive a volley from anything but a frigate. Neither can a Badger or a Bestower. I don't know if they should be changed or not. Untill they are, I use them to drag ore back to a station and nothing else. Maybe that was thier one trick all along. |
Rhinanna
CyberShield Inc ROMANIAN-LEGION
106
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:26:00 -
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Wow, I french person who doesn't want to fight, never heard of that one before!
On a more serious note, what you are suggesting is completely impossible, gankers will just fuel their alt with plex, register with fake details then the accounts aren't linked.
Also, you BOTH choose what to risk when you undocked.
Also 'no warning'? Duh the yellow box comes up when they start to lock you.
Oh and you need to learn the game mechanics as well, just because the damage is over the EHP doesn't mean its a one hit kill, there are a lot of other factors at play unless you are sitting stationary with 30 Target painters on you at zero range. -The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-á |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:26:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Tian Nu wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Thanks, an utterly uninformative post about me being wrong due to not having enough information, but not giving the information. I work in programming (high level generally), and to my knowledge everything I said is correct. If you work in a lower level field and feel like you can shed additional light on how CCP could possibly better track and link accounts together, do tell. mayby you can tell me what certificate (certificate is not the right word) you studdy for ? Programing got nothing to do whith (enginer in system and network) i will be surprised if you know (in detail) how packets travel on ethernet segment. Is hard for me to explain something on this subject simply cos my englesh is low lvl and i will need to use lots of tehnical words that i got no clue what are they in english. I study 3 years before i pased the exam (ofc it was not all on Cisco and Nortel) but when i see my old couse on transleting TCP/IP 'entetes in hexadecimal i doubt i could explain enything to any one in few minuts words. But when i seen that you claim taht IP spoofing is easy it made me jump from my seat, we are not talking about changing MAC adress whith somme scrip kiddy sofware there hold youre horses. Kinda pointless to know what you do if you can't communicate properly in English, no? Your posts are like reading a essay by a script kiddie...
well i can't do much about it as in the country i study and work now my language is corect. Actualy i do need to read english ( i guss that how i started writing by reading alot) as most docs in my work comme in english. |
baltec1
483
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:28:00 -
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Ocih wrote:The truth is there are ships in EVE that simply are not space worthy. It's like riding a bicycle on the freeway. You just don't do it. These ships don't even need extreme adversity. All ships are destroyable with extreme force. Some are incapable of even absorbing minimal damage.
An Iteron can't be fit to survive a volley from anything but a frigate. Neither can a Badger or a Bestower. I don't know if they should be changed or not. Untill they are, I use them to drag ore back to a station and nothing else. Maybe that was thier one trick all along.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6073085 |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:28:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote:Wow, I french person who doesn't want to fight, never heard of that one before!
Am not French am Serbian, is not exactely same. I just work in France which by the way is nice country i used to work in New-York for few years and that did not make ma Americain. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
181
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:31:00 -
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Ocih wrote:An Iteron can't be fit to survive a volley from anything but a frigate. Neither can a Badger or a Bestower. I don't know if they should be changed or not. Untill they are, I use them to drag ore back to a station and nothing else.
Maybe that was thier one trick all along.
I think you are on to something there. Next step is to realize that there are other ships available for other tasks.
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
149
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:31:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:
Kinda pointless to know what you do if you can't communicate properly in English, no?
Your posts are like reading a essay by a script kiddie...
^^ This sounds like a four year old slamming doors and crying because their mamma wouldn't give them a cookie.
I can understand the posts just fine... and considering their native language isn't English, your xenophobic stab really comes across as pathetic. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
350
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:32:00 -
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Tian Nu wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Tian Nu wrote: you need to read material on TCP/IP and Ethernet, while you are at read something about routing and NAT.
Then one day come back to youre post and edit it ty.
PS. somme of us actualy work in that line of buissenes and usauly we dont read hakerzzzz zine we went to school.
Thanks, an utterly uninformative post about me being wrong due to not having enough information, but not giving the information. I work in programming (high level generally), and to my knowledge everything I said is correct. If you work in a lower level field and feel like you can shed additional light on how CCP could possibly better track and link accounts together, do tell. mayby you can tell me what certificate (certificate is not the right word) you studdy for ? Programing got nothing to do whith (enginer in system and network) i will be surprised if you know (in detail) how packets travel on ethernet segment. Is hard for me to explain something on this subject simply cos my englesh is low lvl and i will need to use lots of tehnical words that i got no clue what are they in english. I study 3 years before i pased the exam (ofc it was not all on Cisco and Nortel) but when i see my old couse on transleting TCP/IP 'entetes in hexadecimal i doubt i could explain enything to any one in few minuts words. But when i seen that you claim taht IP spoofing is easy it made me jump from my seat, we are not talking about changing MAC adress whith somme scrip kiddy sofware there hold youre horses.
Less ad hominem and bragging, and more info please.
Admittedly, I was not making the difference between a HTTP and SOCKS proxy or a VPN, but even so, using something like Tor is really not that hard.
The reason I may be misinformed is because I mostly do web development, database development, and such high level work, not socket communications.
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ocih wrote:The truth is there are ships in EVE that simply are not space worthy. It's like riding a bicycle on the freeway. You just don't do it. These ships don't even need extreme adversity. All ships are destroyable with extreme force. Some are incapable of even absorbing minimal damage.
An Iteron can't be fit to survive a volley from anything but a frigate. Neither can a Badger or a Bestower. I don't know if they should be changed or not. Untill they are, I use them to drag ore back to a station and nothing else. Maybe that was thier one trick all along. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6073085
You high sec ganked someone in a nonofit Caracal and that's supposed to mean an Iteron is spaceworthy? You need a smack.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
888
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:34:00 -
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Ocih wrote:The truth is there are ships in EVE that simply are not space worthy. It's like riding a bicycle on the freeway. You just don't do it. These ships don't even need extreme adversity. All ships are destroyable with extreme force. Some are incapable of even absorbing minimal damage.
An Iteron can't be fit to survive a volley from anything but a frigate. Neither can a Badger or a Bestower. I don't know if they should be changed or not. Untill they are, I use them to drag ore back to a station and nothing else. Maybe that was thier one trick all along.
Indeed, it's called using the right tool for the job... and using it properly.
OP, you know as well as everyone else in this thread you will never get changes made that allow aggression across multiple accounts. For reasons other than invasion of privacy and breaches of the EULA.
For that you should thank your lucky stars, because if you can achieve this... so can the gankers through various methods.
How would multibox mining fleets fair if one mistake gave kill rights on say 20 of their characters.... whenever.... where ever.
The ways to exploit your proposal are many and varied.
In the end, you would be drawn and quartered by the general EVE industrial community.
As always in EVE, be careful what you wish for... you might get it. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
888
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:36:00 -
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Ocih wrote:baltec1 wrote:Ocih wrote:The truth is there are ships in EVE that simply are not space worthy. It's like riding a bicycle on the freeway. You just don't do it. These ships don't even need extreme adversity. All ships are destroyable with extreme force. Some are incapable of even absorbing minimal damage.
An Iteron can't be fit to survive a volley from anything but a frigate. Neither can a Badger or a Bestower. I don't know if they should be changed or not. Untill they are, I use them to drag ore back to a station and nothing else. Maybe that was thier one trick all along. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6073085 You high sec ganked someone in a nonofit Caracal and that's supposed to mean an Iteron is spaceworthy? You need a smack.
I prefer Battle Badgers for that type of work. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
baltec1
483
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:37:00 -
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Ocih wrote:[quote=baltec1]
You high sec ganked someone in a nonofit Caracal and that's supposed to mean an Iteron is spaceworthy? You need a smack.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7702047
1x Iteron Mark V vs 2x drakes, 1x Oman, 1x cormorant and a sansha rat.
Damage Taken: 76,235 |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:40:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ocih wrote:[quote=baltec1]
You high sec ganked someone in a nonofit Caracal and that's supposed to mean an Iteron is spaceworthy? You need a smack.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=77020471x Iteron Mark V vs 2x drakes, 1x Oman, 1x cormorant and a sansha rat. Damage Taken: 76,235
Iteron 5, extreme example and my point? It still died.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
350
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:40:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ocih wrote:[quote=baltec1]
You high sec ganked someone in a nonofit Caracal and that's supposed to mean an Iteron is spaceworthy? You need a smack.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=77020471x Iteron Mark V vs 2x drakes, 1x Oman, 1x cormorant and a sansha rat. Damage Taken: 76,235
Butbut... my ship loses efficiency if I fit a sliver of tank on it. I can't have max capacity or max mining yield with a decent tank. Not fair. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:44:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Sebastian N Cain wrote:Well, the OP allegedly wants to be able to attack all the alts and the main of the ganker, some disposable suicide ganker alt hardly matters to anyone, so killing them wouldn-¦t be worth jack. Being able to hunt down your main that you safely use for nullbearing ratting with your shiny officer-fitted ship, thats what could be called risk of receiving retaliation.
This would mean 1. that if you have multiple accounts, they can all be identified belonging to you. 2. if you get killrights for a player, you get killrights for all of his accounts.
Not neccessarily a bad idea. After all, being able to use multiple accounts to do all the risky things with worthless accounts and having everything valuable in safe accounts does make eve somewhat of hello-kitty online. This would also be impossible to implement, on top of being a bad idea for encouraging even more metagaming. If you read the latest CSM summit, particularly the security and anti-botting section, CCP has enough issues identifying account-switching botters, or people who use alts for breaking the EULA so their main account stays safe. There is simply no reliable way to link an account to another. Name/address? Can be spoofed, and are never verified. E-mail address? You can create as many gmail addresses as you want for free. I myself have about 6 or 7, and they are all for legitimate uses. IP address? Would screw over people playing from the same IP (from behind a firewall) or those who "hotseat" play Eve (log on from the same computer). Credit card number? Pay with PayPal (also improper use of sensitive info). Maybe in the future there will be a way, but until then there isn't even a way to establish a link between characters without the account-owner's explicit permission (via giving out an API key). So, stop dreaming of stalking into gankers' lives. Tank yourself properly against newbie alts, and go after their mains when they expose themselves. I was merely thinking about a simple list of toons, where everyone can just see which toons are belonging together, and only that (no info on the account, just that those toons are apparently played from the same player, whoever that may be). Since the subscriber can also see the list, he would be able to tell if there are mistakes and could petition them (if there are toons not belonging to him he would know that there is something fishy and he should alert a GM to make sure his account won-¦t be affected, since such toons would be banned this toon can-¦t be used afterwards, if there are toons missing they are mistakenly connected to someone else, and if you don-¦t want him to ban your char, you should petition that as well).
Like this ccp don-¦t need to verify anything. Everyone can see themselves in that list if all chars are correctly shown. If not, they can immediately tell ccp themselves that something isn-¦t right. Of course, this works only with legitimate accounts as others wont tell ccp anything, but that is enough, this isn-¦t intended for catching botters or something after all.
By the way, it-¦s not like i-¦m affected from gankers, i fly only pvp ships. However, i do look down on gankers because they don-¦t know their place, getting uppity with delusions of grandeur how 1337 they are when they are hardly better than prey themselves. So i-¦m just sympathetic with anything that makes them whine.
"You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:45:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:baltec1 wrote:Ocih wrote:[quote=baltec1]
You high sec ganked someone in a nonofit Caracal and that's supposed to mean an Iteron is spaceworthy? You need a smack.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=77020471x Iteron Mark V vs 2x drakes, 1x Oman, 1x cormorant and a sansha rat. Damage Taken: 76,235 Butbut... my ship loses efficiency if I fit a sliver of tank on it. I can't have max capacity or max mining yield with a decent tank. Not fair.
I have a Hull tank/ Blaster/ trimark rigs fit for Abaddon. Dumb fit but you should see the redonculous EHP.
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