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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm NPC ECM is % based. It is not effected by the targets Sensor strength.
This means that the Marauders are effected exactly the same as any other ship by NPC ECM activities.
In that case... Quote: but with sensor strengths comparable to cruisers the Marauders can be jammed quite easily if they are not hardened with ECCM.
should say... Quote: but with sensor strengths comparable to cruisers the Marauders can be scan probed quite easily if they are not hardened with ECCM.
There is minimal risk of a mission running ship getting jammed by another player unless it is first scanned out of its deadspace. This is a fair weakness to these otherwise uber mission runners. Just please tell us what the real weaknesses are.
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Styre Blixtsnabb
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:03:00 -
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Nice work all around. I think these are interesting roles that could very well change certain aspects of PvP in a very cool way. I think this is also a good step towards ships not being balanced.
Pirates don't use Spell Check
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:03:00 -
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Using the Griffin for the new Caldari EAS hull brings up a question:
Will the rest of the T1 frigates that don't have a T2 variant ever get one? It really does make the T1 ship more worth building if there are T2s they can be made into, and we all know most T1 frigates are underutilized. Perhaps some of the current T2s should be re-hulled, but wouldn't it have made more sense to just use a different T1 hull for the Gallente, Amarr, and Minmatar EASes so the hulls would be more varied, and the T1s worth more? Plus, some of those frigates that don't have T2 variants are pretty nice ship designs, and ought to be seen more often in a T2 paint job.
Along the same lines, I'm not thrilled with the Heavy Interdictors using hulls that are already used for HACs. Why not base them on tier 2 battlecruisers, or use the same hulls as the logistics ships? The top tier cruisers are already plenty useful and as both combat ships and hulls for T2s.
I'm also curious why the Amarr didn't get a Khanid variant T2 battleship. Could it be you're admitting Khanid missile boats aren't exactly making true Amarr jump for joy?
Oh, and a pink Thorax? Guess somebody wants to please the female crowd, eh? When can we get a new feature to repaint our ships? Shame Roden doesn't do more ships with the black and red scheme of the Ares. Even the Enyo looks a lot nicer than the paint for the Oneiros and Lachesis. Or will Trinity Roden ships be more red and less pink?
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Oron
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Oron on 23/10/2007 16:11:10 Edited by: Oron on 23/10/2007 16:08:35
Originally by: Ed Gein There are no PVP bs's in the tech 2 bracket now.[...]oh well, typical
You are joking, right? Its just wrong to say CCP adds to many PvE ships. I don't fly missions so i don't need them, but I am glad for the guys who like that and get some new toys to play with.
Actual I could imagin the Kronos and the Golem in PvP. All the Black Ops are PvP too. Sure they need some change here and there. the ECM Bonus on the Widow, the agility, a CO-Cloak, being able to jump a tackler. Would be cool if they switch the Cloak-Speed Bonus for the Cloak-CPU Bonus :D
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Chaala Stone
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:07:00 -
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Quote:
Sentinel Hull: Crucifier / Viziam Slots: 3/4/3, 2 turrets Fitting: 195tf, 40mw Drones: 20Mbit/s bandwidth, 60m3 drone bay Sensors: 572mm scan res, 36.5km targeting range, 21pt radar Propulsion: 374m/s, 1,525,000kg Tech II resistance bonus: 50% explosive, 25% kinetic ...
Is the bolded line a typo? I.E. an Amarr frig that can field 4 light drones, with 2 sets of spares? If it isn't, this might be a fun little ship. |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:07:00 -
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BTW the Matari Marauder can even fit 800mm T2 AC. Not even those!!!
It seriously need more powergrid.
As of now its simply better use a maesltrom and fit fallof rigs for exactly same resulting ship., except mael will have more dps and more drones and cheaper.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:08:00 -
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By the way, what's up with all the "role bonuses" ships get anymore? It seems like certain older ships like the assault frigates are gimped in comparison. Will we get some balancing to fix those, so they don't have a bonus wasted on resists that should be built in or made into a "role bonus" instead?
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Aramendel
Amarr North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Aramendel on 23/10/2007 16:21:10 Cloaking lvl 5 is needed to operate the special "no cloaking delay" ability of the black ops BS....
The bonus of cloaking 5 is enhanced by it.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel Edited by: Aramendel on 23/10/2007 16:21:10 Cloaking lvl 5 is needed to operate the special "no cloaking delay" ability of the black ops BS....
The bonus of cloaking 5 is enhanced by it.
Its pretty much another useless skill ccp forces on people. Typical... When we are at it - why not salvaging 5 to use mission BS?
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Mamarto
Minmatar Dead Pirates' Society
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon BTW the Matari Marauder can even fit 800mm T2 AC. Not even those!!!
It seriously need more powergrid.
As of now its simply better use a maesltrom and fit fallof rigs for exactly same resulting ship., except mael will have more dps and more drones and cheaper.
7900 * 1.25 = 9875 PG available on the ship. 2200 * 0.9 * 4 = 7920 PG needed to fit 4 800mm tech 2 autocannons assuming advanced weapon upgrades level 5. That leaves almost 2000 pg to fit your shield tank, I think it'll do just fine.
3575 * 0.9 * 4 = 12870 PG to fit 4 1400mm tech 2 howitzers, that's the real problem if it's to be used as a mission running ship or a general NPCing ship.
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Myra2007
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:40:00 -
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I have only looked at the amarr ships so far. Useless, uninspired and very disappointing. I am not surprised though as fendahl seems to be on of the leading heads again.
Sentinel:
With 3 small neuts it can be dangerous for battleships? In what world do you live please? Thats pathetic. TD's are already the weakest ewar (ok actually that award goes to TPS but long range frig webs are sweet) and now cap warfare with frigates. gosh. Only nice thing is the drone bay, but that doesn't help it much.
Devoter:
4 turrets. Broadswoard: 5 turrets + launcher. Sound balanced mhhhh. No seriously guys, kudos for removing a turre vs. the maller. I mean the devastating firepower on a maller plus a rof bonus? No, that would be overpowered so give it a rof bonus and take away a turret to make it useless again. Thats pure fun right here.
Redeemer:
Cloaked velocity, right. Because i'll certainly use a BlackOps for espionage and sneaking up instead of a cov ops. Thats just uninspired. And then turret tracking? You really had no ideas at all? Why make fancy t2 ships that aren't fancy in any way?
Paladin:
Sucks. Just like the apoc. And thanks for making it clear that you will never redesign apoc. If you really planned on it why make a crappy t2 version beforehand? Repair Amount? Thats a gallente bonus wth does it do on my golden phallus? Tracking? Errm... yeah if you can't offer anything at all... Apoc has so much dmg already a 5% dmg instead of tracking would have made it soooo overpowered, no we just cant do that. Lol, seriously who but some empire mission runners who don't know that abaddon exists will ever pay money for this joke of a ship?
Sentinel and Redeemer are the only halfway usable ships. But they aren't worth the hype. I doubt we'll ever see much black ops in combat action especially with sweet bonuses like agility and such. No, really thats a pity. And the amarr ships are as always special-gimped as 2 of them stem from the worst t1 amarr ships in existence: maller & apoc.
And don't tell me to be constructive unless you come up with something constructive. (i.e. not gimped ships)
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Mioelnir
Minmatar KULT Production Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon BTW the Matari Marauder can even fit 800mm T2 AC. Not even those!!!
It seriously need more powergrid.
As of now its simply better use a maesltrom and fit fallof rigs for exactly same resulting ship., except mael will have more dps and more drones and cheaper.
With AWU5, Eng 5 and 4 fitted 800mm AC II the Vargur has 1955mw PG left. A XL-SB2 and 100mn MWD II later, that leaves 30mw PG.
While not as plenty as a Maelstrom, there are a select few fittings that seem possible.
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Sir James
Gallente GALAXIAN RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sir James on 23/10/2007 16:43:24
Originally by: FawKa Found this on forum wich really makes my point:
Originally by: Xequecal The Kronos with 3x faction magstab and a neutron fit does 1800 DPS. 1800 DPS. You can fit 2x LAR, MWD, and 3 energy neutralizers on it too, and run these off the 1275m3 cargohold full of cap charges. It's the most ridiculous ship ever implemented, ever. The Paladin does less than half the DPS of this monster.
15000 max pg 8506.8 Grid for 4 Neutron Blaster II's --------------------------------------- 6493.2 Grid left over 1375 100mn MWD II 1750 Heavy Electro Cap Booster --------------------------------------- 3368.2 PG Left.. 2300 T2 Large repper --------------------------------------- 1068.2 PG left UMMMM i ran out of grid no second t2 repper
1 repper fits.. and all the ship got for Tech II resistance bonus: 25% kinetic, 12.5% thermal. so if ur going to leave it untanked fit an RCU 3 FACTION dmg mods... Btw those cost money and don't fall off trees ur gonna be tankless. yes u can rep TONS.. but you have no Resists, You've just found a way blow up one of the most expensive ships in eve that dosn't currently exsist Congrats.
PS: YOU NO HAVE NO GRID FOR NEUTS so who u quoted has no clue.. YAY
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mioelnir
Originally by: Kagura Nikon BTW the Matari Marauder can even fit 800mm T2 AC. Not even those!!!
It seriously need more powergrid.
As of now its simply better use a maesltrom and fit fallof rigs for exactly same resulting ship., except mael will have more dps and more drones and cheaper.
With AWU5, Eng 5 and 4 fitted 800mm AC II the Vargur has 1955mw PG left. A XL-SB2 and 100mn MWD II later, that leaves 30mw PG.
While not as plenty as a Maelstrom, there are a select few fittings that seem possible.
I forgot to put eng in that last count. Anyway. The PG is still low since it does not allow even t2 1200mm with 1 Reactor control.
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Cerina Natal
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:45:00 -
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A fair compromise for not allowing BlackOps to fit CoviCloaks (i still hate the idear of not fitting it and giving the ship a penalty for using the module like 50% slower warp speed + somthing)...anyway as i sayed a fair compromise might be to give the BlackOps ships an agility bonus on top of there cloaking speed bonus, this would allow them to appear more stealthy while bieng cloake. Eccept for landing smag in the middle of a bouble an agility boost would save this ship as for getting away you can just: Cloak Allign to a SP or selesteral object Go to max velocety Uncloak (instant warp)
But thats just an idear...anyway...i think people whine way to much...think of it as a first draft of the ships and give the devs a little credit for trying. Its hard to please 100k people at the same time (that was ment in a non Huston 500 kind of way).
Anyway the way i see it dev team (CCP) you have got a couple of challenges here: Allow BlackOps ships to appear more stealthy (blackops like) to let people protect the +1bill investement its going to be flying this ship, with out overpowering it to much. Allow Marauders to appear more as the properly wore ment to, "a one man army" non capital so you dont need support. Give this ships some kind of a abbility to favor there huege firepower in a way such that the normal EW counter meshurs dont make this ships obselete before they are even launched. Frigate size recons....personally i think its a nice tutch to the game lets see how they preform before passing to much judgement on them. HeavyDictors (well im not much of a dictor pilote) but as the nice guy from Tri(DOOM) pointed out earlier on sovival rate for a heavy dictor seems even wors with the current setup (as i sayed i havnt flown them so i wouldnt know) but they do have a huege bulls eye painted on there forhead so give them a run for there money. People will need some sort of lasting way this ship wore to operate cause a 20km max range to target really gimps your sourvival rate. And i dont think a huege tank is going to do it. Somthing very positive to say about this ships though im crasy about the active "warp disruption field module", puts a nice edge on things and ohh yes "you dont run out of boubles any more".
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Chaala Stone
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sevis
Originally by: Chaala Stone
Quote: Sentinel Hull: Crucifier / Viziam Slots: 3/4/3, 2 turrets Fitting: 195tf, 40mw Drones: 20Mbit/s bandwidth, 60m3 drone bay Sensors: 572mm scan res, 36.5km targeting range, 21pt radar Propulsion: 374m/s, 1,525,000kg Tech II resistance bonus: 50% explosive, 25% kinetic ...
Is the bolded line a typo? I.E. an Amarr frig that can field 4 light drones, with 2 sets of spares? If it isn't, this might be a fun little ship.
No, that has to be intentional. Its the only EW frigate that has a bonus to highslot modules. So you won't be equipping guns, you'll have to get your damage elsewhere.
Neat. I want one, and I will name it Mosquito.
3x Small Neut II= 300 cap/6 seconds
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sir James Edited by: Sir James on 23/10/2007 16:43:24
Originally by: FawKa Found this on forum wich really makes my point:
Originally by: Xequecal The Kronos with 3x faction magstab and a neutron fit does 1800 DPS. 1800 DPS. You can fit 2x LAR, MWD, and 3 energy neutralizers on it too, and run these off the 1275m3 cargohold full of cap charges. It's the most ridiculous ship ever implemented, ever. The Paladin does less than half the DPS of this monster.
15000 max pg 8506.8 Grid for 4 Neutron Blaster II's --------------------------------------- 6493.2 Grid left over 1375 100mn MWD II 1750 Heavy Electro Cap Booster --------------------------------------- 3368.2 PG Left.. 2300 T2 Large repper --------------------------------------- 1068.2 PG left UMMMM i ran out of grid no second t2 repper
1 repper fits.. and all the ship got for Tech II resistance bonus: 25% kinetic, 12.5% thermal. so if ur going to leave it untanked fit an RCU 3 FACTION dmg mods... Btw those cost money and don't fall off trees ur gonna be tankless. yes u can rep TONS.. but you have no Resists, You've just found a way blow up one of the most expensive ships in eve that dosn't currently exsist Congrats.
PS: YOU NO HAVE NO GRID FOR NEUTS so who u quoted has no clue.. YAY
1 Repair with the extra resit and repair bonus (that it seems you missed) is almsot as good as 2 LAR II.
And I think you can squeeze 2 Faction LAR there.
Dont think anyone will use these ships with anything under faction.
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Alex Mistery
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:47:00 -
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CCP disappointed me a lot!
New ships and old skins! Boring! :-( New ships should have new appearance! Thus new ship's ability will no give happiness and fun for me. I don't want it to have at all. ;-(((
P.S. Acpecially - Pink Thorax!? OMG! WTF! Whom it is designed for? For blonds? Stupidity!
If it will really happen I will defenetely stop playing EVE.
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Mamarto
Minmatar Dead Pirates' Society
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Mistery CCP disappointed me a lot!
New ships and old skins! Boring! :-( New ships should have new appearance! Thus new ship's ability will no give happiness and fun for me. I don't want it to have at all. ;-(((
P.S. Acpecially - Pink Thorax!? OMG! WTF! Whom it is designed for? For blonds? Stupidity!
If it will really happen I will defenetely stop playing EVE.
These aren't new ships, they're old ships improved to do specific tasks better.
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007 Sentinel:
With 3 small neuts it can be dangerous for battleships? In what world do you live please? Thats pathetic.
Originally by: Chaala Stone 3x Small Neut II= 300 cap/6 seconds
equiv to 2x Heavy Nuet II which would pull 1200/24 seconds
Not bad for a frigate.
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:53:00 -
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Ok after letting the new ships sink in;
EW Frigates
Sentinel is crap it even drains less cap then the pilgrim which already doesn't destroy enough cap to be usefull go redesign Amarr EW, having a full fleet of them would be nice to disable 1 ship but then again bring a fleet and you can down any BS anyways.
Kitsune, probably the second worst EW frig. Yes it's ew can shut down a ship but quite frankly on frigs you want something like damps far more then ECM. Not to mention it lacks a second ew form.
Keres, tied with the hyena. Tech2 resistances and capable of scrambling from range thus capable of locking down something faster then an intie in a lot of cases.
Hyena, tied with the keres. tech2 resistances web range and highest speed. Lacks 1 mid and an uber second EW bonus like damps.
Heavy Interdictors
Not enough information as of yet in my opinion. But quite frankly the one that will tank best will be the best. Most likely candidate would be devoter or broadsword due to better innate t2 resistances then caldari/gallente.
Black Ops
/care, sorry but they don't impress me at all, they look like glorified bombers since they can't use cov ops cloaks and we all know how much those suck :S. Looking at the stats the panther will be best.
Marauders
Kronos, by far the most powerful one in PvP. Dual web while actually fighting in webrange. Highest DPS.
I don't understand why a PvE ship is blaster based though, noone in their right minds uses a blaster megathron in missions or ratting since it takes far to long to actually get to the targets. If this was a PvE ship it should have had more long range bonusses.
Vargur, second best the old tempest bonusses rof+dmg but instead of having less turrets as for example the apoc it now has the same ammount of turrets as the others hence more pwnage.
Golem, I'm not sure why any PvE minded player would pick this ship over the caldari navy raven. But still it's an improvement over the normal t1 battleships at least.
Paladin, WHY would anyone fly a paladin? Honestly? An abbadon can tank level4's just as well while having more DPS and thus finishing missions faster. HELLO?! Also the apoc had 8 turrets which was the most of all tier2 battleships in contrast it didn't have damage bonuses thus the total DPS of the apoc was lacking already. Now all the marauders got 4 weapon points but amarr are still left with their totally crap bonuses. PLEASE start to properly revamp lasers so amarr players don't need to have ships with -10% cap useage for lasers anymore but can have proper tank or DPS bonuses instead.
conclusion
Just as with most ship types/roles gallente/minmatar are the top dawgs and caldari and amarr are AGAIN left with a useless bunch of ships. Quite frankly if these ships hit TQ in their current state I can't conclude otherwise that CCP's balancing department needs to stop smoking so much weed (or perhaps start smoking it if it improves their quality).
--- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino
Originally by: Myra2007 Sentinel:
With 3 small neuts it can be dangerous for battleships? In what world do you live please? Thats pathetic.
Originally by: Chaala Stone 3x Small Neut II= 300 cap/6 seconds
equiv to 2x Heavy Nuet II which would pull 1200/24 seconds
Not bad for a frigate.
Yeah but WHY would you EVER use it?
You can argue it will be useful if you had 5 of them in gang. But if those 5 would be flying something else you wouldn't need to drain it's cap after a gazillion cycles it would be dead instead of being capless.
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Lord Berk
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007
Paladin:
Sucks. Just like the apoc. And thanks for making it clear that you will never redesign apoc. If you really planned on it why make a crappy t2 version beforehand? Repair Amount? Thats a gallente bonus wth does it do on my golden phallus? Tracking? Errm... yeah if you can't offer anything at all... Apoc has so much dmg already a 5% dmg instead of tracking would have made it soooo overpowered, no we just cant do that. Lol, seriously who but some empire mission runners who don't know that abaddon exists will ever pay money for this joke of a ship?
Sentinel and Redeemer are the only halfway usable ships. But they aren't worth the hype. I doubt we'll ever see much black ops in combat action especially with sweet bonuses like agility and such. No, really thats a pity. And the amarr ships are as always special-gimped as 2 of them stem from the worst t1 amarr ships in existence: maller & apoc.
And don't tell me to be constructive unless you come up with something constructive. (i.e. not gimped ships)
Myra nailed it.
Constructive advice? Take that piece crap you call a Paladin and flush it.
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Icome4u
Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:58:00 -
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Cool :D
Now please get your head out of your ass and don't nerf/balance Carriers/MS/Fighters (don't fix whats not broken).
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr Heretic Army Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shevar
Originally by: Matalino
Originally by: Myra2007 Sentinel:
With 3 small neuts it can be dangerous for battleships? In what world do you live please? Thats pathetic.
Originally by: Chaala Stone 3x Small Neut II= 300 cap/6 seconds
equiv to 2x Heavy Nuet II which would pull 1200/24 seconds
Not bad for a frigate.
Yeah but WHY would you EVER use it?
A little thing I like to call FUN. Remember, not everyone flies big ships. I will personally welcome the Sentinel into my arsenal.
Oh, and thank you CCP for changing the Caldari Heavy Interdictor's name. --- Amarr/Caldari, and proud of it.
Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |
Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar Wolverine Solutions Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:00:00 -
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It's a shame the Minmatar frigate gets the same model as the CovOps. There are so many unused Minmatar frigate ship models
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Moraguth
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:00:00 -
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FINALLY! Amarr get some love. I haven't been this excited about being amarr since I started playing. These new ships make me proud to have stayed true to the amarr ships as my primary focus.
Now... if only we could stop the pointless carrier nerf. good game
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: FireFoxx80 Marauders Simply, WTF?! This simply seems to be a means of appeasing the mission runners of Eve. 100% bonus to tractor beam, increased damage, and increased resists. You might as well up mission bounties and have all level5 agents require a standing of 1.0 whilst you're at it. If these ships were paper-thin, over-gunned, pew-pew boats; I'd not have minded. But this ECM weakness seems to only exist in order to give the gimped ECM ships something to attack.
The majority of mission runners are Caldari trained and will not change to the Golem. Firing 4 missiles of which 2, 3 or even all 4 will be shot down by defender missiles makes for less DPS than a BC (probably even less than a Caracal).
I believe that each time you fire a missile at the npc, the npc has a fixed chane of launching a defender. So the decrease of dps due to npc defenders shouldn't change. ------------------------------------------
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Sir James
Gallente GALAXIAN RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:03:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Sir James Edited by: Sir James on 23/10/2007 16:43:24
Originally by: FawKa Found this on forum wich really makes my point:
Originally by: Xequecal The Kronos with 3x faction magstab and a neutron fit does 1800 DPS. 1800 DPS. You can fit 2x LAR, MWD, and 3 energy neutralizers on it too, and run these off the 1275m3 cargohold full of cap charges. It's the most ridiculous ship ever implemented, ever. The Paladin does less than half the DPS of this monster.
15000 max pg 8506.8 Grid for 4 Neutron Blaster II's --------------------------------------- 6493.2 Grid left over 1375 100mn MWD II 1750 Heavy Electro Cap Booster --------------------------------------- 3368.2 PG Left.. 2300 T2 Large repper --------------------------------------- 1068.2 PG left UMMMM i ran out of grid no second t2 repper
1 repper fits.. and all the ship got for Tech II resistance bonus: 25% kinetic, 12.5% thermal. so if ur going to leave it untanked fit an RCU 3 FACTION dmg mods... Btw those cost money and don't fall off trees ur gonna be tankless. yes u can rep TONS.. but you have no Resists, You've just found a way blow up one of the most expensive ships in eve that dosn't currently exsist Congrats.
PS: YOU NO HAVE NO GRID FOR NEUTS so who u quoted has no clue.. YAY
1 Repair with the extra resit and repair bonus (that it seems you missed) is almsot as good as 2 LAR II.
And I think you can squeeze 2 Faction LAR there.
Dont think anyone will use these ships with anything under faction.
What you missed.. all that faction gear on a ship u can kill with a few command ships seems really worth it dosn't it... ohh wait... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.. its only UBERSOLOPWN if u spend more isk than anyone should on the ship. blaster fit it will be fun but not solopwn. it will do well and a large t2 repper with a 37.5% bonus only repps 1100.
I was also blowing the quoted fit to pieces as it can't fit the dual reppers let alone energy neuts
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Alex Mistery
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Posted - 2007.10.23 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mamarto
Originally by: Alex Mistery CCP disappointed me a lot!
New ships and old skins! Boring! :-( New ships should have new appearance! Thus new ship's ability will no give happiness and fun for me. I don't want it to have at all. ;-(((
P.S. Acpecially - Pink Thorax!? OMG! WTF! Whom it is designed for? For blonds? Stupidity!
If it will really happen I will defenetely stop playing EVE.
These aren't new ships, they're old ships improved to do specific tasks better.
Nevertheless Pink Thorax is not so much attractive! :-(
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