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Higgous
Gallente Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2007.10.24 11:23:00 -
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/signed 'Lister to Red Dwarf....' |
Pwn Tang
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Posted - 2007.10.24 11:24:00 -
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/signed
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N1fty
Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.10.24 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: N1fty on 24/10/2007 11:33:22
/signed, see below for rant:
Something must be done about the crapocalypse.
10% to laser cap use is *meant* to be seen as a damage bonus because lasers *supposedly* have higher base damage. We all know this to be a total lie because lasers have been damage nerfed repeatedly for the past 2 years. Heatsink nerf, Pulse nerf, EANMII + resistance skills, DCU... All nerf's to Amarr superior base damage.
Make heatsinks better, tweak base EM resistances, reduce laser cap need, give Amarr more cap or something! Constructive ideas were posted on how to fix amarr, that was a couple of YEARS ago. Now its degraded into whining and petitions. Maybe CCP can fix this problem? Before more people train min/gallente. Theres a reason why Amarr have fewest ships ingame according to the economists blog! ============================================
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Aieda
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.10.24 11:37:00 -
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/signed
It¦s just like in another mmorpg: the Paladin just can¦t do any damage
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education
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Posted - 2007.10.24 11:44:00 -
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im getting pretty tired of this. lol arbi got a nerf now even. For those who are munching scat atm and doesnt get it. That makes every single amarr cruiser subpar.
fix the apoc ffs fix the grid fittings on beams ffs fix the cap usage on lasers, hint cut it with 50% and give the ships some god damned real bonuses
i could do those bonuses much better than ccp rejects doing atm and thats saying alot
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.10.24 11:49:00 -
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Don't try to fix it. Don't replace it.
Just...just get it out of my sight. We can pretend it never happened.
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Dristra
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Dristra on 24/10/2007 13:04:08 Edited by: Dristra on 24/10/2007 13:03:44
Originally by: Royaldo im getting pretty tired of this. lol arbi got a nerf now even. For those who are munching scat atm and doesnt get it. That makes every single amarr cruiser subpar.
fix the apoc ffs fix the grid fittings on beams ffs fix the cap usage on lasers, hint cut it with 50% and give the ships some god damned real bonuses
i could do those bonuses much better than ccp rejects doing atm and thats saying alot
I agree. But how did the arbi get nerfed? it just used 5 meds, and it can still do that, but with more spares, right?
Edit: OMGLOL, arby is nerfed down to 50 drone bandwidth, yet vexor get 75???? Curse and pilgrim got nerfed too... wtf is this, the ccp hate amarr day?
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Blutreiter
Pelennor Swarm R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:10:00 -
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Edited by: Blutreiter on 24/10/2007 13:11:24
Originally by: Dristra Edited by: Dristra on 24/10/2007 13:04:08 Edited by: Dristra on 24/10/2007 13:03:44
Originally by: Royaldo im getting pretty tired of this. lol arbi got a nerf now even. For those who are munching scat atm and doesnt get it. That makes every single amarr cruiser subpar.
fix the apoc ffs fix the grid fittings on beams ffs fix the cap usage on lasers, hint cut it with 50% and give the ships some god damned real bonuses
i could do those bonuses much better than ccp rejects doing atm and thats saying alot
I agree. But how did the arbi get nerfed? it just used 5 meds, and it can still do that, but with more spares, right?
Edit: OMGLOL, arby is nerfed down to 50 drone bandwidth, yet vexor get 75???? Curse and pilgrim got nerfed too... wtf is this, the ccp hate amarr day?
Regarding the Arbi nerf:
CCP hates Amarr, it's official now...
Try using 3 Sentry drones. Not possible anymore with 50m^3.
Also consider 2 heavy 2 med and 1 light drone loadout.
Yes people actually use that. YES VEXORS DO TOO. And why the hell do Vexors get more bandwidth AND TURRET DAMAGE BONUSES ON TOP?
ffs, up to date i never whined. Now i'm abusing my shift key.
Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sh*t up |
Dohat
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:56:00 -
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/signed in triplicate
/initialed here
/and here
/and here
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Yadee
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:12:00 -
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As i posted in a diff thread, i am getting sick of this
I havent had the urge to log on in weeks now, and i doubt i reactivate when my accounts run out now. Here i was, hoping rev3 would bring something nice for amarr, yet gallente is the race getting the (relatively) good ships, shocker
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Nyx STeeLGamers
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:18:00 -
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im flying gallente, Gallente ships is closerange, and can be used to solo, but i would NOT make a sniperthron, amarr ships is used for sniping, and a gang boat. but someway, amarr ships seems abit too nerfed maybe. but dont expect them to make them closeranged, maybe some more damage/cap/cpu/powergrid should do it maybe. but lets see what CCP have to do with all thoes,(/signed) :P
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Alexace
Gallente Bright New Dawn Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:20:00 -
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signed....
I am a major lurker here, but I had to post. As a gallente pilot that switched to amarr (i only had like 1.5 million sp when i switched). Oh how i regret my desicion.
Amarr need to be brought up to an even level with the other races. a 60% laser role bonus for all amarr ships and another "real" bonus would fix at least 90% of amarrian problems. Fix beam fitting and you are pretty good to go.
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.24 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kerdrak on 24/10/2007 14:28:25 I didn't realized about abritrator nerf, WTF? Why now arbitrator is worst than vexor? this is stupid and I'm starting to get rired of this...
I have used the arbitrator "sniper setup" with 3 sentry drones for fun, now I can't? Come on CCP, hire people with a clue about balance, stop weasting money and resources in stupid things and make this game playable and balanced. ________________________________________
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Mrski Okupator
Amarr The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:17:00 -
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So tired...
/signs with last drop of ___ Apocalypse Mining. Mine your way to heaven.
What playing Amarr feels like. Shamelessly snatched from Almarez. |
Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:20:00 -
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/signed.
Amarr are getting nerfed when they DONT need it to begin with. They're already the most whined-about race for good reason, and they're being whined about by people who dont fly them, saying they do need a boost.
Thank you CCP for invalidating 6 months of my training regiment. -
Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online |
Blutreiter
Pelennor Swarm R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Blutreiter on 24/10/2007 15:44:04
Originally by: Kerdrak Edited by: Kerdrak on 24/10/2007 14:28:25 I didn't realized about abritrator nerf, WTF? Why now arbitrator is worst than vexor? this is stupid and I'm starting to get rired of this...
I have used the arbitrator "sniper setup" with 3 sentry drones for fun, now I can't? Come on CCP, hire people with a clue about balance, stop weasting money and resources in stupid things and make this game playable and balanced.
This ^
It's not only a fun setup, it's very decent in combat. Actually my primary fitting.
Also please note that this nerf basically kills the Arbitrator at it's strong point, flexibility.
And because drones are it's only serious weapon system this pretty much lowers the effectiveness of the Arbitrator as the only true "unbroken" cruiser Amarr have, bringing us from 2 useless and 1 good tank but still subpar to other races (Maller) and one true competitive cruiser (not overpowered, mind you)... to...
2 useless and 2 subpar cruisers.
Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sh*t up |
Brianna Talnor
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad Don't try to fix it. Don't replace it.
Just...just get it out of my sight. We can pretend it never happened.
Don't worry...you never will see one
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Blutreiter Edited by: Blutreiter on 24/10/2007 13:11:24
Originally by: Dristra Edited by: Dristra on 24/10/2007 13:04:08 Edited by: Dristra on 24/10/2007 13:03:44
Originally by: Royaldo im getting pretty tired of this. lol arbi got a nerf now even. For those who are munching scat atm and doesnt get it. That makes every single amarr cruiser subpar.
fix the apoc ffs fix the grid fittings on beams ffs fix the cap usage on lasers, hint cut it with 50% and give the ships some god damned real bonuses
i could do those bonuses much better than ccp rejects doing atm and thats saying alot
I agree. But how did the arbi get nerfed? it just used 5 meds, and it can still do that, but with more spares, right?
Edit: OMGLOL, arby is nerfed down to 50 drone bandwidth, yet vexor get 75???? Curse and pilgrim got nerfed too... wtf is this, the ccp hate amarr day?
Regarding the Arbi nerf:
CCP hates Amarr, it's official now...
Try using 3 Sentry drones. Not possible anymore with 50m^3.
Also consider 2 heavy 2 med and 1 light drone loadout.
Yes people actually use that. YES VEXORS DO TOO. And why the hell do Vexors get more bandwidth AND TURRET DAMAGE BONUSES ON TOP?
ffs, up to date i never whined. Now i'm abusing my shift key.
I hope they fix the rest of our cruisers if they go through with the arbi nerf. If not amarr is going to have 4 useless cruisers instead of 3. GG ccp.
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Butzewutze
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:59:00 -
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/SIGNED!!!!!!11111
Comeon CCP, get the head out of your ass. Its redicilous what u are doing with this game. FIX AMARR!
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.10.24 15:59:00 -
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Yeah the Arby nerf was totally uncalled for. I never saw anyone complain that it was overpowered. Guess it just had to be brought inline with the other Amarr t1 cruisers.
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Jones Maloy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:14:00 -
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amarr just plain suck right now i've been playing for aboout 2 years and have only seen 1 (one) apoc. and yes it was mining. amarr ammo can be siphoned out of their cargohold. who else has that kind of disadvantage. i am starting to play amarr just to see what it is like. i'm not going to train skills because that would be pointless. --- WCS Nerf boycott low-sec |
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:16:00 -
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The Arbi might do less DPS now, but its got an absolutly huge drone bay.
This means it can fit 2 flights of mediums and 2 flights of lights. That is pretty impressive and much more versitile than the vexor. Even if its dps is a bit lower due to not being able to field the 2/2/1 drone setup.
I mean you can do this with an arbi now
5x Hammerhead 5x Med ECM 5x Warrior 5x Light Armor Maint
That is:
1. The ability to rep others after a battle. 2. The ability to damage larger, slower ships with thermal damage 3. The ability to damage smaller, faster ships with explosive damage 4. The ability to jam targets.
Cant do it all at the same time, but it doesnt have to refit in order to do this. Which frankly is pretty fantastic.
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Kai Shinkachi
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:20:00 -
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/signed, fix amarr...
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Blutreiter
Pelennor Swarm R i s e
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong The Arbi might do less DPS now, but its got an absolutly huge drone bay.
This means it can fit 2 flights of mediums and 2 flights of lights. That is pretty impressive and much more versitile than the vexor. Even if its dps is a bit lower due to not being able to field the 2/2/1 drone setup.
I mean you can do this with an arbi now
5x Hammerhead 5x Med ECM 5x Warrior 5x Light Armor Maint
That is:
1. The ability to rep others after a battle. 2. The ability to damage larger, slower ships with thermal damage 3. The ability to damage smaller, faster ships with explosive damage 4. The ability to jam targets.
Cant do it all at the same time, but it doesnt have to refit in order to do this. Which frankly is pretty fantastic.
Which also means the less DPS - less bandwidth Arbi will also let me rat much worse because I cannot compensate for missing tank breaking damage like the Vexor with the bonused turrets and it kills EW drone setups and Sentry setups.
Because most EW drones come with stacking penalty, meaning 3 heavy EW drones work better then 5 medium ones.
Also, no sentries anymore for the Arbitrator... using only 2 Sentries? I mean... cutting 33% of the current possible sentry dps? No way... even if I now could theoretically use 3 different "duets" of sentries... honestly AAAARGH
Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sh*t up |
hgewwe
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: hgewwe on 24/10/2007 16:55:11
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TIlle
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:55:00 -
[116]
/signed
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macktruck6666
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Posted - 2007.10.24 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: macktruck6666 on 24/10/2007 17:02:25
/signed
Amarr really needed a real second bonus. The influx of complaints in the last 24hours shows what people think about these ships.
I'm not totally opposed to the arbitrator change, but I can see how people can become frustrated. I like how it is.
A few days ago there was Armageddon Day where everyone got infinite skills. What would happen if everyone had max out skills for only the amarr skills and if only amarr ship were seeded. I have a feeling that no one would log onto the server.
I know you guys are doing allot of work, but please fix the ships.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:37:00 -
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/Signed
But I would prefer them to CORRECT the dam ship, sicne is such a nice hull
Lets make this thread BIGGEr than the carrier one. Bring everyone you know that have Ammar BS to post here.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |
Talsha Talamar
Amarr Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 24/10/2007 17:54:13 Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 24/10/2007 17:52:31 Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 24/10/2007 17:51:46 Well.. Waiting for something is one thing, then seeing the manifestation of the fact, that changes seem to be not even in concept, but that the old failure is preserved, is honestly devastating.
I use the Apoc as mission boat, since it gives me a bit of peace of mind, with my not to shining amount of skill points.
Nevertheless, everytime I look at my ship options as Amarr, I see quite limited possiblities.
25% cap bonus on laser usage for amarr ships, and a second bonus on some would really go quite some way. Give the Apoc a 2.5% or 5% rep bonus per level instead of the current laser cap reduction. That would finally make it the tank boat again, that it was used as before. So we would have geddon -> DPS, apoc -> tank, baddon -> versatility.
As far as the changes to the arbitrator are concerned, I will wait to whine or praise until we know how ewar and other drones will be changed and if new drone classes are introduced.
If the no-shield-repair-on-scoop drone nerf, really goes live though and the FUBAR situation related to drones in mission does not change, it will make them pretty useless with regards to their cost/effect relation.
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The ArchWarder
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.24 17:54:00 -
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/Signed
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