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Commander Karin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:09:00 -
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Hello.
I was in doubt about posting this here on ir the Technology Lab but since isn't some new feature I think here is the right place, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, what I have is kind of a complain.
To get a Jump Clone you need Standing >= 8, why the hell is that much? This is keeping me away from playing PVP and therefore CCP is not having profits with Plex sells, and Im pretty sure Im not the only one in this situation. I'm not too much of a mission player, and risinig standings to 8 takes a life and Im only doing that to be able to use a jumpclone and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Specially because there are some pretty cheap ships outthere, but a good implant costs 100mil. And I have my implants since the early days of my char because a new player can and will buy plex to speed things up with implants.
Why not offering jumpclones in a different way? This Jumpclone system should evolve - players could get faster in the PVP world.
Well, Im almost getting my 8 in standings, so this complain isn't anymore about me, hope this can help other players that like me are frustrated with the JumpClone requirements.
regards ps: sorry for the typos
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
767
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:10:00 -
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Just join another corporation to get your jumpclone? quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:10:00 -
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Holy crap the whining! If you are THAT adverse to losing some implants, join a clone corp and get one. http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |
Pyrosomniac
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:12:00 -
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1) Get a friend 2) Run level 4 missions with him 3) Share the profits 4) ??? 5) Profit
You can do this less than 2 months into the game if you can get your hands on a battleship, and if you run a couple of missions a day your wallet and standings will skyrocket. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
309
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:13:00 -
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It's an Idea you have for the game, and thus it belongs in the Features and Ideas Discussion forum.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:16:00 -
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As others have said, some with social skills, some not so much, Any player outpost can provide clones at 10K ISK I think and it's based on standings.
R3-K7K
They will charge you10 mill last time I was there but that's not a great deal of ISK. It will take you longer to get someone in channel to set you up than get the ISK. |
Commander Karin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:18:00 -
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Thank you all for the fast response...
but I disagree with the answers.
Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view.
so
1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp
regards |
Joe Kaperski
Paragon. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:20:00 -
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The only place you should need a PVP clone is nullsec. Join a nullsec alliance. If you're loosing pods in highsec/lowsec, Doinitwrong. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:21:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1400554
Open link... Follow instructions. Clones for nothing. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |
baltec1
483
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:22:00 -
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Commander Karin wrote:Thank you all for the fast response...
but I disagree with the answers.
Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view.
so
1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp
regards
Yea EVE doesn't do instant gratification. |
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:30:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Commander Karin wrote:Thank you all for the fast response...
but I disagree with the answers.
Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view.
so
1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp
regards Yea EVE doesn't do instant gratification.
Meaning 2 years less a day. Also called a prison sentence.
Still, there are options and the trouble with standings is, they aren't an exclusive reward. Giving you 8.00 in a month affords you much more than free clones. You get to reproc and refine with no penalty, you get full mission access, you get cheap manufacturing. You get alot of benefits.
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CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.25 18:56:00 -
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Commander Karin wrote:Thank you all for the fast response...
but I disagree with the answers.
Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view.
so
1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp
regards
What's the rush? Seriously people like you will kill Eve. Crawl back to whatever MMO you came from please. |
Zoloft Rx
Forged Prophets
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:00:00 -
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plex for jumpclones anyone? |
Sarmatiko
469
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:02:00 -
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You can rise standing to 8 in one day doing COSMOS +10-15 lvl 4 missions for desired npc corporation. If you need "faster" or you have another childish complain - JUST PAY ISK to people who can provide standing increase service. |
Commander Karin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:04:00 -
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CausticS0da wrote:Commander Karin wrote:Thank you all for the fast response...
but I disagree with the answers.
Don't think I'm some dumb ass who don't know anythings about this game. I know the alternative ways to speed things up, but I'm talking about not having alternative ways, the system itself should change in my point of view.
so
1) I have friends 2) Doing missions with someone isn't always an option 3) I want to stay in my corp
regards What's the rush? Seriously people like you will kill Eve. Crawl back to whatever MMO you came from please.
First people like YOU will kill EVE with you mentality and attitude. I came from no other MMO and play EVE for about 2 years and I'm going very good. When you say people like me you loose any respect I could have for you. This is typical preconception speech.
Please, go back for the MMO you came, by your attitude you should have age to play WoW (probabily)
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:06:00 -
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Zoloft Rx wrote:plex for jumpclones anyone?
I'd rather use PvE dog tags or something else not being used in game but Aurum works too.
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Commander Karin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:09:00 -
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why in the hell are you all so ******* angry? Have your mom not feed you when you're a baby?
Seriously, why can't you just arguee and discuss like grown up people.
Looks like Im hurting someone talking about jump clone standings.... tsc tsc
and Im the one been childish here
ps: sorry this is not meant for those who know how to chat and discuss something. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
205
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:22:00 -
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lol if you are looking for civilized discussion on the EVE Online forums, you will be VERY VERY VERY dissapointed. Too bad too, because EVE Online players are some of the smartest gamers I've seen.
Not talking about everyone of course
Some EVE online players are dumb as **** and some are REALLY nice and helpful people. |
Lili Lu
150
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:35:00 -
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Karin,
It's been this way forever. And considering how long it took to skill into level 4 missioning years ago it was an even more daunting hill to climb back then. However, that's just it it is a hill that must be climbed. And, really the game is about the climbing, not as much about the summit.
One thing though, make sure the npc corp you decide to get standing with has a station with a medbay. Check them out on Dotlan. I didn't realize this and got to 8 with a corp that didn't have a medbay I was But then I realized that the faction standings meant I didn't have the climb the entire hill again
You could post this in the Features and Ideas section of the forums, or on the CSM subforum. It is a pretty high hurdle, and considering how many things have been made easier in the game, especially for new players, you might get a good CCP response. Whether that is a good thing for the game I'm not so sure.
Regards, LiLu |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:37:00 -
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Genji is what i used to get JC many pilots use that guy is one time fee of 5mill.
gl in youre PVP adventures. |
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Cindy Marco
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:37:00 -
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Commander Karin wrote:Hello.
I was in doubt about posting this here on ir the Technology Lab but since isn't some new feature I think here is the right place, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, what I have is kind of a complain.
To get a Jump Clone you need Standing >= 8, why the hell is that much? This is keeping me away from playing PVP and therefore CCP is not having profits with Plex sells, and Im pretty sure Im not the only one in this situation. I'm not too much of a mission player, and risinig standings to 8 takes a life and Im only doing that to be able to use a jumpclone and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Specially because there are some pretty cheap ships outthere, but a good implant costs 100mil. And I have my implants since the early days of my char because a new player can and will buy plex to speed things up with implants.
Why not offering jumpclones in a different way? This Jumpclone system should evolve - players could get faster in the PVP world.
Well, Im almost getting my 8 in standings, so this complain isn't anymore about me, hope this can help other players that like me are frustrated with the JumpClone requirements.
regards ps: sorry for the typos
Grinding corp standings isn't that hard. Especially if your willing to pay/or have a friend that has high standings already. Keep in mind that corp size DOES matter ALOT. Make sure a corp has medical, then check its size. The bigger it is the lower standing gains are. Trust me, I just grinded up on another new character with 2 corps. I know it can be done fast.
If its that hard for you have someone get you the standing. It takes well under a day for someone to get you access to all level 4s for a corp.
At that point you have 2 options. 1)Continue to let the person with standings split with you until you hit 8.0. Its alot slower but you only have to be logged on, you can be totally afk. 2)Start taking the missions in your own name and blitz them. It shouldn't take more then a day to get 8.0 at this point if you have a good mission ship, and good social skills.
*Edit* If you really can't find anyone I have a empty corp high sec POS corp no one has bought yet. I could let you join it for a few days. It has access to Jump Clones in Heimatar. No charge, but if you don't leave within 4 days I would have to kick you out. |
Rixiu
North Star Networks The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2012.01.25 19:57:00 -
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You don't need standings for jump clones as there are multiple ways to get them without them.
1. Join one of the "jump clone corps", check sell order forums for more info. It's free.
2. Get a friend with a rorq or that guy who does it using the rorquals clone vat bay (check sell order forums).
3. Find a "freeport" in 0.0, Chribba used to operate one in 9UY- in providence but it's no longer in his hands. If you're not red to CVA ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Curatores_Veritatis_Alliance ) you can probably use one of their stations but I've never done it and don't know if you can make clones. I know my alliance keep a useless station open to everyone ( http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/ZQ-Z3Y ) and I assume you can create clones there but there's probably a docking fee (use a covert ops or something small).
No need to grind standings at all... |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.01.25 20:02:00 -
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Commander Karin wrote:and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Wnat the hell is loosing and lossing? Geez learn some bloody English AND quit whining you sound like a dork...
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
25
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Posted - 2012.01.25 20:20:00 -
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Join a corp and get jump clones
Personal standings need to stay the way they are. They are keeping hi-sec missions in check and stopping them from becoming extremely overpowered, and that is coming from a Hi-sec mission runner. I think the grind for standings is at an appropriate level. |
Commander Karin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.25 22:30:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Commander Karin wrote:and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Wnat the hell is loosing and lossing? Geez learn some bloody English AND quit whining you sound like a dork...
woot? |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
97
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Posted - 2012.01.25 23:27:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1400554
^^^ This is what I have done with every toon I've made. Its free and easy.
-Mad I know I left a battleship in this station. Wait, you can put ships in Station Containers? ****! I just trashed them. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1267
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Posted - 2012.01.25 23:59:00 -
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There are many options, you just refuse to employ them. Dumb. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
168
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Posted - 2012.01.26 03:23:00 -
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Commander Karin wrote:Hello.
I was in doubt about posting this here on ir the Technology Lab but since isn't some new feature I think here is the right place, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, what I have is kind of a complain.
To get a Jump Clone you need Standing >= 8, why the hell is that much? This is keeping me away from playing PVP and therefore CCP is not having profits with Plex sells, and Im pretty sure Im not the only one in this situation. I'm not too much of a mission player, and risinig standings to 8 takes a life and Im only doing that to be able to use a jumpclone and not loosing my millions in implants. I think like me there are others who don't think lossing a ship is the problem, but lossing implants is. Specially because there are some pretty cheap ships outthere, but a good implant costs 100mil. And I have my implants since the early days of my char because a new player can and will buy plex to speed things up with implants.
Why not offering jumpclones in a different way? This Jumpclone system should evolve - players could get faster in the PVP world.
Well, Im almost getting my 8 in standings, so this complain isn't anymore about me, hope this can help other players that like me are frustrated with the JumpClone requirements.
regards ps: sorry for the typos
the standings grind is ******* horrible. I'd love to get me some standings, but there is going to have to be an easier way.
Yes, CCP, I remember bribing the agents to get my gallente standing, and I want to do that again, pls.
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The Geoman
Anarchos Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.01.26 04:10:00 -
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OP: If you think grinding corp standings is rough, try faction standings. You can burn through 16 missions for your corp, only to get a storyline that will make your faction standings barely move in some cases (Materials for War Preparation, anyone?). |
Alaric Faelen
Aquila Venatici Bringers of Death.
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Posted - 2012.01.26 04:14:00 -
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I don't know why the grind is so ridiculous.
As I've said, the cliche "never fly what you can't afford to lose" really means implants. Ships, even shiny ones, come and go. But losing a noggin full of implants can set toons back months.
Worse, it's especially hard on newer players- the very group of people you need to cut some slack. The group of people everyone keeps saying they want to herd towards PvP. The very group that too often gets stuck in a PvE rut out of fear of losing the dozens of hours of PvE (like missions for LP) to get those implants.
How many more people would at least get out and try PvP if there wasn't a crazy PvE grind just to be able to 'afford' PvP?
It seems that Eve really front-loads the cover charge to get into the PvP club, which is counter-intuitive. I'm not saying implants should be safe from loss- just that all these people are angry at care bears hiding in stations or never leaving high sec. People complain about the lack of targets in low and null.
But by halving the standing requirement for JC's- people could afford to just 'dabble' in PvP if they wanted. More PvP'ers, more targets. More fun. I thought the goal was more people shooting each other- so why the ridiculous hoop to jump just to make it feasible?
There are corps that offer free JC service- but that's a work-around precisely because the current standing requirement is excessive.
At least for me, the moment I got JC, this entire game changed. I ran straight for the Frig Fry and sat there to be podded so I wouldn't have to fly a ton of jumps back to grab another ship. Remember- "you are not your ship" ...........but you ARE that toon with the lazy eye and a small fortune in circuitry stapled to that squishy thing between your ears. |
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