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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.27 13:33:00 -
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it would be cool if this was a ruse to increase the price of pyerite...
Thinkin' like a pirate .
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.02.27 17:04:00 -
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I know these little 0.5 systems with loads of kernite... And no-one mines em yet.
Guess people dont explore too much really.
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Lord Azraiel
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Posted - 2004.02.27 17:47:00 -
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You pay me 8isk per pyerite, I can supply you with all the pyerite you need. "I'm comin' for ya, and Hell's comin' with me!" |
Phoenixgurl
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Posted - 2004.02.27 17:51:00 -
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who "actually" need pyro when they are selling mega? wth, you make 10 times the cash per hour I do while mining pyro. Go buy a BS directly instead of trying to mine it, you got the cash.
Btw, since you have choosen to live into alliance space into 0.0, there is a backdraw to this, and it is that crappy ore you can't buy.
While you blockading the good pricy ores, us, back into empire space, dont have the cash to buy 2000 units of Mega, cause it takes ****load of pyrite to make that cash.
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.02.27 18:26:00 -
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Quote: .... You can make jack bananas in this game. Wheres the GD Plagio? When was the last time you saw a Omber roid? How are we supposed to make and sell stuff without Pyerite? Hello? How? Huh?
How's a *****h posed to feed deir family?
The answer to your question is simple. Alliances. Whether it be war or inability to deal with NPCs, fail to mine the massive amounts of production ores in "thier" regions, go to empire space to hide and mine with thier Battleships and super indys.
CCP cut respawns to try and deal with this to no avail. It is some what unfortunate and there are some whom plan to help aleveate this hording of mins, which is basically a bunch of cowards stealing from noobs.
Currently there are certain frigate and cruiser based militaries i know of who deal with this sort of thing. The onlyway this may end is if you fight back and drive alliances mining in empire space out. Essentially by declaring war on them.
It is always recommended when hitting thier mining ops to use nothing bigger than a cruiser with basic stuff to avoid to much loss. While they are cowardly they do possess a military capable of dealing with newer more unorganized players.
but practice makes perfect. frigs can carry cruise missiles and mwds. so best of luck. I will be more than happy to answer any further questions by non allied corps on how to evict certain regional powers from there happy mining area.
Just because they are big and rich dont let them evicerate you and other prolatariots.
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.02.27 18:30:00 -
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I mean seriously folks, dont get mad with these huge corps...get even.
Official declared war on Alliance corps is not piracy...
Its a Carebear Revolution
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2004.02.27 18:49:00 -
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You know its amazing how rather than finding a solution to a new set of problems people just whine and expect CCP to change things back. I can tell you that our corp has found a way to transport 20 mil trit and 12 mil pyer in one it v... think about it find the solution and carry on... as well when it comes to buying it, our production manager has had to price pyerite so that it is more pofitabel to mine scordite than kernite... since we're mining piles of ark and bistot that works very nicely for us... Oh and if you can't think of how one could possibly be getting that much mineral in an it V, eve mail me, i'll tell you for a nominal charge of isk.
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Xenu
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Posted - 2004.02.27 19:26:00 -
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Quote: i'll tell you for a nominal charge of isk.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.27 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Riddari on 27/02/2004 19:40:05
Quote: You know its amazing how rather than finding a solution to a new set of problems people just whine and expect CCP to change things back. I can tell you that our corp has found a way to transport 20 mil trit and 12 mil pyer in one it v... think about it find the solution and carry on... as well when it comes to buying it, our production manager has had to price pyerite so that it is more pofitabel to mine scordite than kernite... since we're mining piles of ark and bistot that works very nicely for us... Oh and if you can't think of how one could possibly be getting that much mineral in an it V, eve mail me, i'll tell you for a nominal charge of isk.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.02.27 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ronyo Dae'Loki on 27/02/2004 19:53:19 It sounds like a pathetic thing to whine about but it really is a problem--I can mine bistot all day, hell even veldspar if I need tritanium, but it's a real ***** to get any pyrite because the scordite 'roids are smaller than the bistot and plagio is non-existant.
I'm able to manage (just barely) but it won't be long before I really start running out.
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at ninja-mining veldspar though. I choose to laugh while I do it. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |
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Lord Azraiel
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Posted - 2004.02.27 20:08:00 -
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Ill tell you for free. Take 1 Iteron MK V and put 5 27% expanders on it then fill your cargo hold with as many secure containers you can. If you manage to fill your space entirely with them, you just boosted your cargo space by another 20%. A friend of mine got this above 32k cargo space. "I'm comin' for ya, and Hell's comin' with me!" |
Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2004.02.27 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:56:49 Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:55:04 We can do it withough the 27% expanders and the cumbersome cargocans... keep using that noggin... until then i'll just keep haulin.
Just got more realistic numbers, we can haul 92 million trit in one load, was a nice shipment today and still had room for other things in the hold as well.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.27 23:41:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:56:49 Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:55:04 We can do it withough the 27% expanders and the cumbersome cargocans... keep using that noggin... until then i'll just keep haulin.
Just got more realistic numbers, we can haul 92 million trit in one load, was a nice shipment today and still had room for other things in the hold as well.
I hear the sound of a million carebears petitioning, and then silence...
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.02.28 01:01:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:56:49 Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:55:04 We can do it withough the 27% expanders and the cumbersome cargocans... keep using that noggin... until then i'll just keep haulin.
Just got more realistic numbers, we can haul 92 million trit in one load, was a nice shipment today and still had room for other things in the hold as well.
Screenshot or shens.
92M Trit is 92,000 cargo space. No way, not possible, not gonna happen unless you're flying around in a Titan I don't know about. (that was sarcasm, by the way, I know Titans aren't in the game) ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |
Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2004.02.28 01:21:00 -
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Oh but does happen, and i can't show a screen shot as it will give away my corps idea. You guys think so small and so inside the box. I don't care whether you believe me or not, fact is we ship 92 mil trit plus more in one load. We offer mineral prices of 1.5 for trit and 5.2 for pyer, we have massive buy orders in ahkragan, Hegfunden and Yulai.
It is possible one just has to use that grey matter between your ears. So stop spending all that time whining and figure it out like we did.
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2004.02.28 01:29:00 -
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YOu know though i will be willing to tell one of the forum moderators here how we do it and he can say yah or nah for you guys, thats about the only credable way i can do it without letting out our innovative to the sheep of eve.
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.02.28 01:58:00 -
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Manufacture stuff like missiles and recycle them when you get to your destination. Dunno what exactly they're manufacturing but thats the principle. A manufactured item occupies less space than the raw minerals used to create it.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.28 03:23:00 -
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Quote: It is possible one just has to use that grey matter between your ears. So stop spending all that time whining and figure it out like we did.
Hmm.. what item is a lot lot lot of tritanium and takes up 1/4 of the m3 of the tritanium that went into producing it?
I'm not a producer nor a refiner so I'm lost
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2004.02.28 03:33:00 -
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Well its good to see the juices flowing, keep it up guys i think you might have something here.
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LCPL Franklin
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Posted - 2004.02.28 05:27:00 -
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umm, the ship, the ship your flying how much would you say its worth? oh yeah i'd say there might be some mins in it. Whats that? build a ship, fly it and recycle the dman thing? noooooo, couldn't possibly, could you? Um yeah sure. yes sir? yes sir. now did you say yes sir. I think he said yeah sure. What did you say man. What i said was, i mean literally what i meant was yeah sure sir.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.28 11:02:00 -
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I worked it out. I can't imagine your corpmates are too happy about you blowing the whistle though. .
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.02.28 11:08:00 -
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Worked it out in about 5 seconds, brilliant idea btw
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Verdack
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Posted - 2004.02.28 15:42:00 -
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Dunno what your problem is. Where i mine most of the nearby system has tons of omber and plag roids. I mined for 6 hours just omber and barely quarter of the field of omber was mined in my megathron :D. message me ingame if you really cant find any decent mining. you just have to look in the right bits!
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.28 15:43:00 -
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Quote: Dunno what your problem is. Where i mine most of the nearby system has tons of omber and plag roids. I mined for 6 hours just omber and barely quarter of the field of omber was mined in my megathron :D. message me ingame if you really cant find any decent mining. you just have to look in the right bits!
His problem was having to transport it 50+ jumps
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Ravenal
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Posted - 2004.02.28 15:50:00 -
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Quote: If you manufacture anything at all you'll find out that the first thing you run out of is pyerite, always.
wrong...tritanium is the first one you run out of (besides zyd and mega) - nocx is also high on the list.
in my experience the last thing i run out of is pyerite ...new sig coming up Ravenal - Fate is what you make of it. |
MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.02.28 19:20:00 -
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Quote: Heh guys why you won't see clear points? New distribution in roids is plain stupidity. While haul megacyte, zydrine and nocxium can be done in fast ships for these ores doing 30+ jumps trip is pretty doable. For production even of battle ships you don't need more cargo space than well-equipped frigate/cruiser have.
Distribute low-level roids for ores like tritanium, pyerite, mexalon and isogen is plain stupid. Haul enough ore over 10+ jumps is simply impossible. Single battleship level 1 need over 6 mil tritanium which is more than 3 fully equipped Iteron MK5 loads. Fully equipped Iteron for cargo crawl at speed under 140m/s. No one will take this full day job for hauling ores for single battleship.
When someone would pay right price for this kind of work then tritanium will cost 5 or more ISK and pyerite would cost you above 20 ISK. In that case level 1 battle ship will cost you roughly 200mil per build only in ores.
Fact is builders in 0.0 space far from empire are pretty screwed because they can't mine most common low ores in nearby systems and logistic for moving low ores over 10+ jumps in one-way trip is impossible.
Please don't argue with if you can't find ores then move on somewhere else. It's not solution for Alliance people, because in this case they will enter someone else territory and war could start but it will not solve logistic problem again.
CCP did plain mistake hoping in that people will start hauling ores from one region to another. It was stupid because they did nerf (kill) industrials in same moment. Who will haul ores even if his cargo is now twice? No one! Simply because ores take so much space and average producer need over 100mil trit/week and over 50mil pyerite/week.
I'd small test :) I'd put 200mil tritanium buy order on whole placid region for 1.10 ISK/tritanium. Thru week I have spread thru all stations only 23mil trit. It sound nice, but now nightmare does comes :) Logistic. My corpmates will spend over 50 hours hauling to get them all at one place. I'd try hire people to collect tritanium in one place by putting same buy order for just 2ISK/tritanium and guess what? No one would do it, but 2ISK/tritanium kill all my profit! At that price for tritanium I'm a making goods at zero profit, so thank you I see many of you really doesn't work with big production. I share same pain as guys from Stain, Fountain and other regions even I have production based in Empire space.
Simply low ores can't be hauled they need to be in place. High-level ores can be distributed over regions unbalanced but not low-level ores.
then make your prices higher so more ppl are interested. and haul to you. trit atm in my exp sells for 1.4 - 1.8isk each .so placing a buy order for 1.3 would get u more than what u have now at 1.1
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Aethon
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Posted - 2004.02.28 19:25:00 -
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Quote: uhmmm, no you don't. You get very small amounts from Jaspet, Omber, and Pyro. You get some from Scordite. But Plagio has been the prized roid for Pyer because it yields the most. Where we work in Fountain there is no Omber and little Plagio. Aridia is now plagio void. So to mine plagio I have to travel across the entire map?
Bullsheeep
actually, although you get more pyerite from 1 refine of plagio than you get from 1 refine of scord, you will find that, since you can mine scord quicker, you will make more pye from mining scord for an hour, than you would plagio for an hour (the last time i checked atleast)
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.02.28 19:31:00 -
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Edited by: Azure Skyclad on 28/02/2004 19:33:30
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Quote: Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:56:49 Edited by: Rawne Karrde on 27/02/2004 22:55:04 We can do it withough the 27% expanders and the cumbersome cargocans... keep using that noggin... until then i'll just keep haulin.
Just got more realistic numbers, we can haul 92 million trit in one load, was a nice shipment today and still had room for other things in the hold as well.
I hear the sound of a million carebears petitioning, and then silence...
Thats about the size of it...Goddess forbid folks actually apply a little innovation and creativity. Much easier to open one's yap and let the hot air flood out to dumb down the masses. La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs Star Fraction http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/ |
Idara
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:47:00 -
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If you can't find Pyroxeres or Plagioclase asteroids, you must either be blind, or not moving more than 2 jumps from the newbie sectors. I started in Kisogo, and moved 4 or 5 jumps to Itamo (a 0.6 Sec system), and found numerous fields with numerous Plagioclase and Pyroxeres roids.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.28 20:51:00 -
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425mm railguns don't take up much space and think of how much trit goes into making those.
Try it
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