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Dulcinea Toboso
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:40:00 -
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This is the answer I received:
"Hi there,
I sincerely apologize for the late reply. As this matter had become quite complicated since the character was in fact not sold, but given to you, we had a rather lengthy discussion among the GM's and the Senior GM's to decide on a policy regarding cases like this, which delayed our response to you considerably.
I am sorry to inform you that we unfortunately will not be able to return the ISK which was taken away. If you buy a character from another player, and we are able to verify that such a contract was made through our forums of how much ISK, assets, skillpoints etc. the character would have on delivery, then we would be able to interfere if the end product, that is, the character, did not come completely as advertised.
However, when a character is given to you by another member of the community, then you receive the character "as is", with all the pros and cons that may come with it. Any issues that come up with the character, such as the character having been used to buy ISK in the past in this case are between the original owner and the new owner.
I know this is not the answer you wanted to hear, but I hope you understand our stance here and that I am unable to return the ISK to you." ------
This is so wrong on so many levels I really don't have the time nor energy to list them all. But here are some...
If I had purchased this character from my friend who left the game and gave me the character for 1 isk, then I guess it would have been OK? wtfo?
What is the sense of taking isk away from a loyal, rule abiding player? Is it to punish me? Who is being punished for this rule infraction? The departing player?
What is the point of this action, what does it do? Does it preserve the integrity of the game? Is it somehow going to prevent me from some kind of unfair advantage? My combined assets in two accounts exceed 4 billion isk.
Is it worth losing a paying customer, who holds two active accounts, over this trivial quantity of isk? Will it satisfy some kind of sense of need to do something about the Eve community's complaints of isk sellers, macro miners, macro ratters, macro missioners, scammers, etc.? Is this why they are doing this to someone who has not committed any infraction?
This whole incident has given me a first person perspective of the kind of people who are in charge of administering this game. And it has left me with a bitter taste that I can only eliminate by voting with my feet and walking away from it.
CCP are morons. They are so wrapped up in their unreal world that they have lost sight of why we pay on a monthly basis to play. The reason we do so is to have fun.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Curzon Dax on 30/10/2007 20:46:36 Edited by: Curzon Dax on 30/10/2007 20:45:34 Ahh...I just posted in your other thread.
*EDIT again*
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Kofgod
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:47:00 -
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cant wait for part 3
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jason hill
Caldari Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: jason hill on 30/10/2007 20:48:56 ibtl !!
dont spose i can have yer stuff ...can i ?
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Ai Liu
Minmatar Dead Reckoning Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:49:00 -
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Posting GM responses is against the forum rules.
IBTL
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dulcinea Toboso What is the point of this action, what does it do? Does it preserve the integrity of the game? Is it somehow going to prevent me from some kind of unfair advantage? My combined assets in two accounts exceed 4 billion isk.
Then why is it so hard to sell 41 million ISK of it exactly?
Quote: Is it worth losing a paying customer, who holds two active accounts, over this trivial quantity of isk? Will it satisfy some kind of sense of need to do something about the Eve community's complaints of isk sellers, macro miners, macro ratters, macro missioners, scammers, etc.? Is this why they are doing this to someone who has not committed any infraction?
Well otherwise it means that anyone who purchases ISK with two accounts can just "give" one with the character they purchased ISK with, avoiding punishment anytime they are threatened with it.
Quote: This whole incident has given me a first person perspective of the kind of people who are in charge of administering this game. And it has left me with a bitter taste that I can only eliminate by voting with my feet and walking away from it.
Can I have your (non-liquid) stuff?
This entire thing seems a little suspicious anyway. If you have eve-mails in your inbox that directly discussed RMT transactions, why didn't you immediately notify the appropriate persons? And if you have so many assets, why couldn't you sell off a mere 2% of those assets to recoup your losses? And if the character was given to you, you haven't lost any of your own assets (on your other characters). ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in Forum Warfare Wrangler on Whining |
Dulcinea Toboso
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax Edited by: Curzon Dax on 30/10/2007 20:47:44
Ahh...I just posted in your other thread.
*EDIT*
You might want to take this post and copy it into your original thread. And have one thread. Two threads is going to get one or both of them locked.
And sorry man...you got a free character, a free account, and it cost you 40m ISK. Not a bad deal.
Thanks for the tip.
It's not a bad deal, my friend was very generous. But that doesn't address the completely unreasonable actions by CCP. What's their point? What are they trying to do with this ruling?
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Arkyk
Viper Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:53:00 -
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I can see why they removed the ISK, but at the same time, I wouldn't have put you into the negative. 0 ISK would have been just fine. At least then you could actually play. ---------------- Mostly harmless. |
Dulcinea Toboso
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ai Liu Posting GM responses is against the forum rules.
IBTL
Messages edited. Thanks.
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Kaemonn
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.10.30 20:55:00 -
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Keep it to one thread.
forum rules | [email protected]| Eve-CCG
Originally by: kieron: off duty You dont have to swallow!
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