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Nymysys
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.31 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bethy San goons have to much space.... maybe in the end it would get blobby :D... but u could pull them out, greif their money supply all day and they would crumble away.. goons have alot of fat and dont blob to big to often... and dont have the big bite to go with the bark just an ability to piggy back greater alliances :D
Bethy, it seems to me that you exemplify everything a member of TARDZ should be. You are an asset to your corp.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:32:00 -
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Was it surprising? This is only the... what, 4th time those SAME people have just given up.
D2 gave up -> people were absorbed into.... Sparta! They gave up -> those SAME people got absorbed into.... Fallen Souls! They gave up ----> Those SAME people got Absorbed into..... YouWhat! They gave up---> Those SAME people got absorbed into.... No idea, but I can guess what will happen if they have a war!
Tri didn't kill Sparta/Fallen Souls/YouWhat. They just killed the same carebears from D2 3 times over that stuck around in the north.
NOTE: I'm not saying D2/Sparta/Fallen Souls/YouWhat were all carebears. I'm just saying they had A LOT. They absorbed most of them from these mergers. These carebears were the former D2 or D2 residents that would dock up anytime 1 hostile was reported with in 5 jumps.
Trust me, I know. I moved up into branch about 1 month before the "Great War" started. People up there had gotten fat and lazy. After the war started and we were regularly visited by hostiles, I lost a Dominix to a Curse/Crow/Vagabond/Helios group. I was less than 5km off the station in 1IX, There was 30 people in local. So 4 hostiles, Me, and 25 other Blues. I killed the curse, then the other 3 finaly killed me. A good 10 minutes sitting outside the station screaming for help in local/intel chans.
I can only imagine simmiler situations for YouWhat seeing that essentially the same people/group of people were Merged into thier Alliance.
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Rennard
Aku Soku Zan
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Last Wolf Was it surprising? This is only the... what, 4th time those SAME people have just given up.
D2 gave up -> people were absorbed into.... Sparta! They gave up -> those SAME people got absorbed into.... Fallen Souls! They gave up ----> Those SAME people got Absorbed into..... YouWhat! They gave up---> Those SAME people got absorbed into.... No idea, but I can guess what will happen if they have a war!
Tri didn't kill Sparta/Fallen Souls/YouWhat. They just killed the same carebears from D2 3 times over that stuck around in the north.
NOTE: I'm not saying D2/Sparta/Fallen Souls/YouWhat were all carebears. I'm just saying they had A LOT. They absorbed most of them from these mergers. These carebears were the former D2 or D2 residents that would dock up anytime 1 hostile was reported with in 5 jumps.
Trust me, I know. I moved up into branch about 1 month before the "Great War" started. People up there had gotten fat and lazy. After the war started and we were regularly visited by hostiles, I lost a Dominix to a Curse/Crow/Vagabond/Helios group. I was less than 5km off the station in 1IX, There was 30 people in local. So 4 hostiles, Me, and 25 other Blues. I killed the curse, then the other 3 finaly killed me. A good 10 minutes sitting outside the station screaming for help in local/intel chans.
I can only imagine simmiler situations for YouWhat seeing that essentially the same people/group of people were Merged into thier Alliance.
You are 100% correct. I have been killing same northern people for 2.5 years now and they change alliance/corp name every month. No doubt they will try to join triumvirate as well, they follow same pattern of survival which is pathetic.
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Arakk
Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.01 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bethykins Goons have close to 5.5k-6k peeps and still they cant take bob them selfs which is half their size they need, RA, iac, -a-, KOS, UL, PL, UR, Ka-tet, Invic, Frege etc etc help to take them lol...
Just bob themselves? LOL?
According to the map RedSwarm had to fight through 5 regions of BoB allies to get as close as they are to BoB now. OH YEAH, bob suck-ups dont add the pets in comparing the population of forces... only in territory maps, like joshua's!
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Virida The problem is, its not possible to fight in any realistic fashion against 80 capitals and 150 battleships, to do so, you need your own 80caps and 150 battleships, and you then got:
- Two blobs hitting each other, with 160 capitals and 300 battleships, total 460 ships.
We all know its not feastible. The size as it was, already crippled some of our ships, when tri's blob camped the cyno POS, we lagged as madness. Only way to fight would be to have a fleet of 100 carriers in system, launch all fighters, warp to POS and say Qa'pla in teamspeak, and watch server crash, and servernode crash while fighters/pos happily kills AFK/crashed ppl.
And its no fun, neither for us, or them.
Tri can definitely put some epic fleets together, but they're just a 1200 person alliance, I have serious doubts they could get anywhere close to that except at very specific hours of the day. So why would you try to fight this rather than time stront for a better timezone? BoB's a very euro-centric alliance and they used to be able to put together similar fleets in their primetime when they needed it. Despite putting dozens and dozens of our POS into reinforced post rev-2, I could count the number they actually killed on one hand.
I guess if your primetime is the same as theirs you'd be kind of screwed though.
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gamarus
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Scavok
Originally by: Virida The problem is, its not possible to fight in any realistic fashion against 80 capitals and 150 battleships, to do so, you need your own 80caps and 150 battleships, and you then got:
- Two blobs hitting each other, with 160 capitals and 300 battleships, total 460 ships.
We all know its not feastible. The size as it was, already crippled some of our ships, when tri's blob camped the cyno POS, we lagged as madness. Only way to fight would be to have a fleet of 100 carriers in system, launch all fighters, warp to POS and say Qa'pla in teamspeak, and watch server crash, and servernode crash while fighters/pos happily kills AFK/crashed ppl.
And its no fun, neither for us, or them.
Tri can definitely put some epic fleets together, but they're just a 1200 person alliance, I have serious doubts they could get anywhere close to that except at very specific hours of the day. So why would you try to fight this rather than time stront for a better timezone? BoB's a very euro-centric alliance and they used to be able to put together similar fleets in their primetime when they needed it. Despite putting dozens and dozens of our POS into reinforced post rev-2, I could count the number they actually killed on one hand.
I guess if your primetime is the same as theirs you'd be kind of screwed though.
Your right, we cant field 150 bs AND 80 capitals at the same time. At the most we have achieved 200 pilots split over 160 bs and 40 support for the final attack on the xzh cynojammer, followed by 70+ capitals backed by whatever bs pilots and support not flying said capitals. And yes, our alliance is heavilly EU TZ; a fact YW pilots capitalized on on a number of occations, bailing out caps on one occation very early in the morning from our viewpoint. If/when TRI squares off with an enemy determined to defend their posses when they exit reinforced/ timing stront for another timezone with defence in mind, I forsee the same slow progress/stalemete/defeats other single timezone alliances have met with. Anyways that's not in the cards right now. As it was said by another member of my alliance, the bitter draught that is POS warfare should be taken in measured doses and with long intervals - may this be extra long
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 04:53:00 -
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hi5 to tri they are cool brosefs for kicking out yw
got some good chatlogs and hysterical alliance mails out of it esp the krall vs wildcard slapfights
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Fokmie
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Posted - 2007.11.01 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani hi5 to tri they are cool brosefs for kicking out yw
got some good chatlogs and hysterical alliance mails out of it esp the krall vs wildcard slapfights
hope to read them at kuguts site soon
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Ecid Q'Wulf
Caldari Galactic Fighter Syndicate Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.01 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lyl Libido
[...]why did you fall so easily [..]
Oh boy, you did not just ask that question, did you?
I bet, its like with every other alliance that size, that got, a high-spirited leadership, been there, seen it, learned from it
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Lyl Libido
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lyl Libido on 01/11/2007 22:02:16 as the OP i wanna thank everyone for answering my question! Sounds like there was some fun to be had and GF to both sides. Sorry to hear -Y- got his at possibly the worst time it could have happened. I have gone through that before but eventually KOS is back and having lots of fun. So dont ever give up and keep tryin to see what issues are and then solving them one by one! so thx again all for your responses to my Q
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Martin Mckenna
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Karunel Was going to give you a serious reply but seeing as the only serious one has been by DeadDuck and anyway it'll be lost in the Goonswarm spamage (gogo GS you're all so witty and fun to read!), not going to bother.
Exactly why i no longer post here. And ill give you a doller a goon quotes this saying yes you do.
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Misfitsa
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Originally by: Karunel Was going to give you a serious reply but seeing as the only serious one has been by DeadDuck and anyway it'll be lost in the Goonswarm spamage (gogo GS you're all so witty and fun to read!), not going to bother.
Exactly why i no longer post here. And ill give you a doller a goon quotes this saying yes you do.
tl;dr
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Koba Kyogen
byeee Corp Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Koba Kyogen on 02/11/2007 01:02:00
Originally by: Bethykins Not hard to figure out... TRI lives for pvp... they probably have some of the lowest numbers of carebears from any alliance out there... not to much fat sitting around a well greased fighting machine... They have insane amount of active capital pilots... Tri has pretty much run out of ppl to shoot... its hard for an alliance built on making money and pvp as a recreation to money making(YW) vs a well oiled PVP machine liek TRI. nano greifing gangs go thru all day, caps seiging pos's all day... just got out classed... Goons have close to 5.5k-6k peeps and still they cant take bob them selfs which is half their size they need, RA, iac, -a-, KOS, UL, PL, UR, Ka-tet, Invic, Frege etc etc help to take them lol...
true true.
TRI is fierce.
- but i think Goons etc are solid too
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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icarus braciolini
Omen Incorporated CODE RED ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:19:00 -
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tri is good no denying heres the thing... Youwhat first of all was never an amazingly powerful alliance they just flipped sides everytime the going got tough. 2nd of all 1/2 of there numbers are part of sparta... who fell... then merged into Fallen souls who fell... and then joined youwhat and surprise they fell
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Kenion
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.02 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck Looking at YW history, they removed them selves, and their assets from Cloud Ring when they announced they were aligning with BOB vs D2 and their allies. They were expecting a big invasion that never happen. So they return to the region a while after, and kept all their assets free from harm. Even if the invasion never happened it was a very wise decision at that time.
RZR did the same some months ago during the last days of D2, when MC and allies seemed unstopable in the North. They removed them selves to MM space and wait for the dust to settle, then they started to fight and look at where they are now.
YW is not dead, they are just waiting for the right time to come back...
Right, and you wanna bet that YouWhat could beat TRI? I don't think so... RAZOR got back because T.I.T.S was incapable of holding space. I don't think TRI is incapable... ----------------------------------------------
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Bippa
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Posted - 2007.11.02 02:01:00 -
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Edited by: Bippa on 02/11/2007 02:01:41
Originally by: Jonkin Tri will never take on bob, half of TRI are former bob or bob allies
Fixed.
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