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Pheonix1980x
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:10:00 -
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Currently in EVE gankers and Pirates seem to have all the advantages in any situation:
They have the ability to pick there targets. Against most haulers they can engage and disengage at will. Haulers have little or no defence either to tank or to deal damage back.
Q Ships would give the anti-pirates a real tool they could use against them.
I've been toying around with this idea for ages and i've read a few previous threads about the concept of having Q ships in game and how they could be implemented so i'll probably be stealing a few of those ideas that have been brought up before and i'd like at this point to give credit to all those people that have already contributed thier ideas.
The concept is simple a Q ship is simply put either an armed merchant ship or it is a warship disguised as a merchant ship. My idea is based more along the lines of the second type.
You would need a high slot module to make this work fairly. The module would be based on the Q-Ships skill. It would basically disguise the ship from the enemy until it got within a certain range.
module base range 30km at lvl1 25km at lvl2 20km at lvl3 15km at lvl4 10km at lvl5
There would be three tiers of Q-ships and I'll be using caldari for my examples because thats the race i'm most familiar with.
Tier 1 Hull: Badger II Resists: Hawk Bonuses: Hawk HP: probably about 50% of they way between a hawk and a cerb. Weapons: Hawk
Tier 2 Hull: Bustard Resists: Cerb Bonuses: Cerb HP: Cerb Weapon: Cerb
Tier 3 Hull: Charon Resists: Golem Bonuses: Golem HP: Golem Weapon: Golem
Shouldn't be too many balance issues with using existing ship stats that are already ingame. But there should be some changes.
All tiers 25% larger cargo hold, the hulls used are massive all that extra space has to be used for something. Tiers 1+2 25% larger drone bay, again using some of the extra space that the hauler hulls would provide. Tier 3 only, the ability to field 3 fighters. And thats only 3 fighters no other drone types would be allowed in the drone bay and you also wouldn't be able to delegate them. Wasn't to sure about this idea but i thought i'd throw it in there and see what people thought about it. All Tiers would have the same agility and max speed of the ship type they were trying to disguise themselves as. This would hopefully balance the larger drone bay and limit there usefullness in any other situation other than what Q-Ships are ment to be used for. They wouldn't really need any speed or agility anyway as the whole point is this ships are used to bait pirates into attacking them at close range where they normally would ie. on gates or in belts.
Anyways thats my idea. If you have anything to add or suggest pls carry on. I really love the idea of Q-Ships and really hope that CCP do add them to game at some point in the future.
Pheo
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:06:00 -
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Why should they be the equivalents of T2 ships? Seeing T2 everywhere is bad... -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast !
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Narur Senara
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:17:00 -
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Because most of the time if you're going to be trying to bait these pirates you are going to have to be solo at least for the initial moment of the fight. And tech 1 resists and hp just won't be able to deal with it for long enough
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Pheonix1980x
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:18:00 -
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grrr alts unleashed
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:20:00 -
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It could be totally new ships, not duplicating the stats of others. Their only purpose could be tanking, and a T1 double bonused tank will hold many things.
Just think class of its own. -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast !
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Kuntakinte NL
The Ghost Riders Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:53:00 -
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Pheo... I dont like it "Nations that place their faith in treaty's, and fail to keep their hardware up. Don't stick around long enough to write very many pages in history." |
Sylvia Lafayette
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Posted - 2007.10.31 14:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sylvia Lafayette on 31/10/2007 14:43:01 well there is the blob way..... been playing with the idea of having a ton of hualers with ewar equipped.. since iteron mark V has 5 midslots you can have a ton of them jamming and tons of cargo for stuff... oh wait this is anti pirates not convoy.... still would be funny to see tons of haulers slowly and painfully rip pirates to shreds
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VJ Maverick
Caldari Maverick Specialized Services
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Posted - 2007.10.31 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Eleana Tomelac It could be totally new ships, not duplicating the stats of others. Their only purpose could be tanking, and a T1 double bonused tank will hold many things.
Just think class of its own.
This would not be consistent with the idea of a Q-ship. A Q-ship's primary weapon is the element of surprise coming from the enemy NOT knowing that it's a Q-ship but a regular merchant vessel. If you have a distinct Q-ship class, that defeats the whole purpose.
Originally by: Bodhisattvas
by the way you keep on missing the "a" from pwn, do you need any help with its pl |
Andreya
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.31 18:08:00 -
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Eve is not safe. you want something moved in a hauler, bring escorts. play it like it would be if the game were real... yes, im aware its not real.. but that is why your going to get ganked.
or, simple, hire someone to haul your stuff through contracts. thats why they are there... plain and simple _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything. |
Wannabehero
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Posted - 2007.10.31 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette Edited by: Sylvia Lafayette on 31/10/2007 14:43:01 well there is the blob way..... been playing with the idea of having a ton of hualers with ewar equipped.. since iteron mark V has 5 midslots you can have a ton of them jamming and tons of cargo for stuff... oh wait this is anti pirates not convoy.... still would be funny to see tons of haulers slowly and painfully rip pirates to shreds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTn9EASiPMY Lovely
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Syberbolt8
Gallente soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wannabehero
Originally by: Sylvia Lafayette Edited by: Sylvia Lafayette on 31/10/2007 14:43:01 well there is the blob way..... been playing with the idea of having a ton of hualers with ewar equipped.. since iteron mark V has 5 midslots you can have a ton of them jamming and tons of cargo for stuff... oh wait this is anti pirates not convoy.... still would be funny to see tons of haulers slowly and painfully rip pirates to shreds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTn9EASiPMY Lovely
Yea that was sweet.
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