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Taikun
Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.01 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Taikun on 01/11/2007 06:57:44
Originally by: Neth'Rae He didn't violate his girlfriend ingame did he? Just claiming you've done a crime isn't a crime, so no crime took place ingame.. Hell, if claiming you've done a crime would be criminal then criminals wouldn't be able to confess that they've actually done a crime..
FALSE admission of a criminal act is an offence in many places.
Now if he was telling the truth he would be guily of raping.
Either way he has broken the law. According to the EULA of this game breaking laws in real life within this game is a banable offense.
I can't see any reason for CCP to condone online admissions of rape, let alone allow them to be swept under the rugs especially when they have a policy that covers it.
I hope CCP take this issue seriously and deals harshly who feel claiming they have raping others is an acceptable part of this game.
It is a crime, and has no place in this game.
Taikun -----------------------------------
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 06:56:00 -
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wasn't me, i dont have a gf
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Sethur Blackcoat
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2007.11.01 06:58:00 -
[33]
False admission only counts if you admit it to some official place like the police, thus wasting their time. Also I'm fairly sure that doesn't fall under criminal law.
Seriously shut up you're wrong go away.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun
Originally by: Neth'Rae He didn't violate his girlfriend ingame did he? Just claiming you've done a crime isn't a crime, so no crime took place ingame.. Hell, if claiming you've done a crime would be criminal then criminals wouldn't be able to confess that they've actually done a crime..
FALSE admission of a criminal act is an offence in many places.
Now if he was telling the truth he would be guily of raping.
Either way he has broken the law. According to the EULA of this game breaking laws is a banable offense.
I can't see any reason for CCP to condone online admissions of rape, let alone allow them to be swept under the rugs.
I hope CCP take this issue seriously and deals harshly who feel claiming they have raping others is an acceptable part of this game.
It is a crime, and has no place in this game.
Taikun
Crime has no place in a game? Good thing there's nothing akin to 17th century pirates in Eve. Or spies, or people that take other things without them realising it....we will call them scammers for the sake of this post.
Also, the problem with "admitting to a crime" is that if there was no crime, and you say you did something, you aren't admitting to a crime. Because there has to be a valid crime to admit to, before you can admit to doing it. So if my ex were to say...still be living, im not doing anything wrong because obviously her body was not dumped. Or maybe I cloned her and its all an elaborate cover story :tinfoil:
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Neth'Rae
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 01/11/2007 06:57:44
Originally by: Neth'Rae He didn't violate his girlfriend ingame did he? Just claiming you've done a crime isn't a crime, so no crime took place ingame.. Hell, if claiming you've done a crime would be criminal then criminals wouldn't be able to confess that they've actually done a crime..
FALSE admission of a criminal act is an offence in many places.
Now if he was telling the truth he would be guily of raping.
Either way he has broken the law. According to the EULA of this game breaking laws in real life within this game is a banable offense.
I can't see any reason for CCP to condone online admissions of rape, let alone allow them to be swept under the rugs especially when they have a policy that covers it.
I hope CCP take this issue seriously and deals harshly who feel claiming they have raping others is an acceptable part of this game.
It is a crime, and has no place in this game.
Taikun
Yeah but if he's telling the truth then no crime took place in eve.
Also what Sethur Blackcoat said seems to be more reasonable..
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Taikun
Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sethur Blackcoat
Seriously shut up you're wrong go away.
What about failure to report a statutory rape?
The evidence available to CCP:
NAME EDITED> i feel guilty. i forced my gf to have sex with me last night. and i found out that she's still a virgin. she cried with pain and difficult to enter mine in hers. i saw blood after. i feel guilty. what should i do?
CCP has a legal reposnsibility to report this as what it is, an admission of forced sexual congress. If it is false, that is for the police to decide. Nevertheless this is an online admission of *****and I would expect CCP to take it seriously.
Taikun -----------------------------------
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good. |
EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun
Originally by: Sethur Blackcoat
Seriously shut up you're wrong go away.
What about failure to report a statutory rape?
The evidence available to CCP:
NAME EDITED> i feel guilty. i forced my gf to have sex with me last night. and i found out that she's still a virgin. she cried with pain and difficult to enter mine in hers. i saw blood after. i feel guilty. what should i do?
CCP has a legal reposnsibility to report this as what it is, an admission of forced sexual congress. If it is false, that is for the police to decide. Nevertheless this is an online admission of *****and I would expect CCP to take it seriously.
Taikun
Lol, wow that's what this is about? You reported copypasta my ignorant little pet. Taken word for word from another website.
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Khrillian
Minmatar Khaos Heavy Industries Order of Khaos
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:14:00 -
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I bet she was asking for it.
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Sethur Blackcoat
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:17:00 -
[39]
Probably was dressing like a ****.
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Sweetpain
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:17:00 -
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you should petition it, ccp should investigate it, if they consider it nessesary they should contact the isp of the owner of the account.
When they get the correct data the police should be contacted, and they should move to confiscate any computer equipment and bring the suspect in for questioning.
people think internet is a cloak of shadow, and they seam to think they are untouchable. many people have been learning that they are not, usually in a har and expensive way.
Anything that realates to real life incidents, have to be taken seriously. But ccp is the first step. They might have seen your petition and investigated it. they might sit on inforamtion you dont know anything about. and in no case they will report to you what actions they might have taken about this.
you petitioned it, your part is done and over. move on.
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Taikun
Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Lol, wow that's what this is about? You reported copypasta my ignorant little pet. Taken word for word from another website.
No, what this is about is CCP failure to respond to a genuine report of an admission of a criminal act in thier game.
I didn't make the comments up, I reported them and they went ignored.
it is not up to me to decide whether or not the poster is genuine or not. That isn't even CCPs job. Why?
Because failure to report a statutory *****is a criminal offense.
CCPs customer has openly offered this eveidence, CCP knows who it is and has the legal responsibiloity to report it to the police and ban their account at a minimum.
That is what it is all about.
Taikun -----------------------------------
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good. |
Midgath Stallsman
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:25:00 -
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Edited by: Midgath Stallsman on 01/11/2007 07:26:57 CCP is not going to report this because if found to be real, which it is not, then they will lose a subscriber.
It is just bad business.
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Exuscon
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 01/11/2007 05:47:46 A few weeks ago, someone in the blueprint's channel admited to raping his girlfriend.
He wasn't joking, and where I am from failure to report such an event is a criminal offense.
I have petitioned the matter and expected an immediate response, if only for the language content alone. So far, nothing from CCP. (No surprises there I guess)
I have the logs, and I am considering phoning the police in Iceland and the media reporting CCP for failure to report a criminal act. The story would have it all huh? Sex, crime, internet video games, cover up, international police attention.
How long would you wait to call the police?
Taikun
How could you *****your girlfriend?
Thats considered rough sex ,right? Most girls I know like to be grunged every once in awhile
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aldebaran asteroth
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 01/11/2007 06:57:44
Originally by: Neth'Rae He didn't violate his girlfriend ingame did he? Just claiming you've done a crime isn't a crime, so no crime took place ingame.. Hell, if claiming you've done a crime would be criminal then criminals wouldn't be able to confess that they've actually done a crime..
FALSE admission of a criminal act is an offence in many places.
Now if he was telling the truth he would be guily of raping.
Either way he has broken the law. According to the EULA of this game breaking laws in real life within this game is a banable offense.
I can't see any reason for CCP to condone online admissions of rape, let alone allow them to be swept under the rugs especially when they have a policy that covers it.
I hope CCP take this issue seriously and deals harshly who feel claiming they have raping others is an acceptable part of this game.
It is a crime, and has no place in this game.
Taikun
Son... pls stop embarassing yourself doing this kind of posts.
Its logical that some one who just raped his girlfriend wont go and tell it on the internet, unless hes a total moron with a high brain malformation. (and we are asuming someone like that actually has a GF) Lets assume this thing took place, WHAT ITS CCP GOING TO DO??!! damn son! they are having a hard time replacing ships the bugs cause!!. Will they go all Dirty Harry and actually send gamemasters to USA (cose i frankly asume u must be american) and investigate a suspected rape?? are you high? Pls go meet a nice girl you can *****by yourself and stop feeding this posts to the flamers.
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Taikun
Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sweetpain ccp is the first step. They might have seen your petition and investigated it. they might sit on inforamtion you dont know anything about. and in no case they will report to you what actions they might have taken about this.
you petitioned it, your part is done and over. move on.
I did petition it and it has not been 'closed' after several weeks. Every other petition I have ever send has always been 'closed' with a note (cut and paste) Thanks you for bringing this to our attention blah blah...
This one is different. Nothing for so long reaks to me of it being ignored. If it was game related I wouldn't care, but since the subject matter it what it is, I find it important to follow up.
Taikun -----------------------------------
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good. |
Midgath Stallsman
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:32:00 -
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Edited by: Midgath Stallsman on 01/11/2007 07:32:34 No blue blooded Amarican is against rape.
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Exuscon
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:32:00 -
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Edited by: Exuscon on 01/11/2007 07:33:38
Originally by: aldebaran asteroth
Originally by: Taikun Edited by: Taikun on 01/11/2007 06:57:44
Originally by: Neth'Rae He didn't violate his girlfriend ingame did he? Just claiming you've done a crime isn't a crime, so no crime took place ingame.. Hell, if claiming you've done a crime would be criminal then criminals wouldn't be able to confess that they've actually done a crime..
FALSE admission of a criminal act is an offence in many places.
Now if he was telling the truth he would be guily of raping.
Either way he has broken the law. According to the EULA of this game breaking laws in real life within this game is a banable offense.
I can't see any reason for CCP to condone online admissions of rape, let alone allow them to be swept under the rugs especially when they have a policy that covers it.
I hope CCP take this issue seriously and deals harshly who feel claiming they have raping others is an acceptable part of this game.
It is a crime, and has no place in this game.
Taikun
Son... pls stop embarassing yourself doing this kind of posts.
Its logical that some one who just raped his girlfriend wont go and tell it on the internet, unless hes a total moron with a high brain malformation. (and we are asuming someone like that actually has a GF) Lets assume this thing took place, WHAT ITS CCP GOING TO DO??!! damn son! they are having a hard time replacing ships the bugs cause!!. Will they go all Dirty Harry and actually send gamemasters to USA (cose i frankly asume u must be american) and investigate a suspected rape?? are you high? Pls go meet a nice girl you can *****by yourself and stop feeding this posts to the flamers.
Who you calling a flamer?
I'm gonna report you to CCP for talking about flamers and rapists in the same thread!
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Taikun
Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: aldebaran asteroth
Lets assume this thing took place, WHAT ITS CCP GOING TO DO??!!
Match the logs with the players real life details and forward it on the the individuals local police department.
Then ban the account from the game.
Quite simple. Did you really need me to spell that out for you?
Taikun -----------------------------------
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good. |
Midgath Stallsman
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Midgath Stallsman on 01/11/2007 07:35:51 Edited by: Midgath Stallsman on 01/11/2007 07:35:25 The guy shouldn't get banned until he is convicted of the crime. It not fair of CCP to just assume he is guilty. What kind of court system would CCP have going on if they did?
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aldebaran asteroth
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun
Originally by: aldebaran asteroth
Lets assume this thing took place, WHAT ITS CCP GOING TO DO??!!
Match the logs with the players real life details and forward it on the the individuals local police department.
Then ban the account from the game.
Quite simple. Did you really need me to spell that out for you? Taikun
Son you watched way to many CSI Miami episodes... David Caruso will be proud of the labour your doing. Keep up the good work.
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Unvisibility
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:49:00 -
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Taikun, you are not going to get any useful advice from these forums. You're going to have to make your own mind up about this.
There's nothing stopping you from phoning your local police station and asking their opinion though - let them decide if you should officially report it.
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Paco Paco
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:49:00 -
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Tarmanic is better at this. At least he gets paid.
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Taikun
Gallente Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Midgath Stallsman The guy shouldn't get banned until he is convicted of the crime. It not fair of CCP to just assume he is guilty.
It is not unprecedented. CCP reserves the right to end their relationship with whoever for whatever reason. In fact, they dont even need one.
Now if I wante to avoid a PR nightmare I would take these cases and quickly remove the players who think raping is LOL!!!111! L337 and make false claims to having done so.
They are a blight on the community and not worth the $14.95 a month.
I find it funny that they seem to get away with it with impunity but jokes about blacks, jew and the like will get hammered by CCP. Why is it jokes and laughing about raping a girlfriend is 100% just fine according to many of you.
Taikun -----------------------------------
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good. |
WhiteSavage
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Posted - 2007.11.01 07:58:00 -
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Some of you people disgust me, and joking about raping people and killing them isnt funny at all. If anti-racial slurs are a bannable offense or at least get you a warning, "joking" about physically raping a person in rl should have the same effect. If CCP will warn me for saying something anti-*** (jokingly or not), then they should warn a forum poster for laughing and saying that they kill people in rl for fun.
People are quick to point out when you might be offending someone somewhere, but when you talk about doing something illegal its "cool."
Its a big deal and should be treated like one. OP it was a bad idea to post this here as this is the response and ridicule you should expect for being innocently offended by such a remark. If its important to you, report it. If you dont care... like so many of the people here, and in the world. Just mind your own bussiness. Never works out for the wissle blowers in the end anyway.
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Friendly Dealer
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Posted - 2007.11.01 08:03:00 -
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I just spent the last twenty minutes rubbing a twelve year old girl's bare chest.
"How?" you ask. Well apparently there are a select few contexts within which such an action is acceptable. For instance, if your niece has a hacking cough and your sister asks you to "put some of this on her" while she calls the doctor.
"Putting some of this on hear" meant using my bare hands to rub this vapor ointment **** all over her BARE NAKED CHEST. My heartbeat is still all erratic from it. I had a boner the size of manhattan the entire time. She's sleeping now and I guess she feels better because she stopped coughing.
Details: She's about 5 feet tall, has long brown hair, a cute face, a thin waist and long skinny legs. She's in jammies I think because although I'm pretty shaken up right now I know I unbuttoned something before I went at it.
God I feel so great. I just rubbed my hands all over her ******* ****, you guys. Well the puffy parts of her chest anyway. Her nipples got hard. I just about wept tears of joy.
I didn't do anything else because I'm a coward and rubbing was enough. Plus it was legal and I didn't technically do anything wrong, so I'm in the clear.
I'd write more but I seriously have to go fap while the memory is fresh in my head.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 08:09:00 -
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Let the copypasta flow
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Exuscon
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.01 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Exuscon on 01/11/2007 08:12:14
Originally by: Friendly Dealer I just spent the last twenty minutes rubbing a twelve year old girl's bare chest.
"How?" you ask. Well apparently there are a select few contexts within which such an action is acceptable. For instance, if your niece has a hacking cough and your sister asks you to "put some of this on her" while she calls the doctor.
"Putting some of this on hear" meant using my bare hands to rub this vapor ointment **** all over her BARE NAKED CHEST. My heartbeat is still all erratic from it. I had a boner the size of manhattan the entire time. She's sleeping now and I guess she feels better because she stopped coughing.
Details: She's about 5 feet tall, has long brown hair, a cute face, a thin waist and long skinny legs. She's in jammies I think because although I'm pretty shaken up right now I know I unbuttoned something before I went at it.
God I feel so great. I just rubbed my hands all over her ******* ****, you guys. Well the puffy parts of her chest anyway. Her nipples got hard. I just about wept tears of joy.
I didn't do anything else because I'm a coward and rubbing was enough. Plus it was legal and I didn't technically do anything wrong, so I'm in the clear.
I'd write more but I seriously have to go fap while the memory is fresh in my head.
Yeah here in the US, the secularists have made it acceptable for schools to offer a 11 year old birth control without parental conscent.
Go figure!
I doubt CCP wants to get involved.
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GM Faolchu
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.11.01 08:13:00 -
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This is a very sensitive topic and if your petition hasn't already been looked into it will be. We do not discuss or disclose information relating to actions taken due to submitted petitions. I appreciate your concern and if you have any information you wish to add please file a petition under the harassment > rules and policies petition section. |
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