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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:51:00 -
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What is it?
The fund provides a means for players to group together in order to acquire T2 BPOs for the sole purpose of their removal from the game. This is achieved by simply buying any available T2 BPO from the market and trashing it. The trashing of all T2 BPOs is captured using a screen grabber and the video is then edited and uploaded to youtube. Top
Why do this?
The existence of T2 BPOs within EVE online is viewed by many as an abhorrent anomaly. These people believe that the T2 BPOs unduly and unfairly influence the profit available to and the viability of invention. There are others who simply feel that they are an outdated resource that should be removed.
There are repeated calls for CCP to remove them from the game via various proposed mechanics from a simple deletion from the database through mutations on spawning Isk, utilising Isk seized from RMTers to purchase at market rate or an arbitrary fixed price. This is unlikely to ever happen.
The problem is that T2 BPOs are expensive and many people will never acquire enough isk at any one point in time to be able to buy them. This is where the fund comes in. By selling shares belonging to the in-game Corporation capital is built up to enable us to remove these items from the game on behalf of the players that want to see this happen.
How does it work?
Very simply, you send Isk to me in multiples of 1M and I will return to you an equivalent number of shares. You are then free to do with the shares what you wish. The corp ticker is [T2H8R] so if you know anyone that is a T2 Hater then send some their way - or even better, encourage them to participate.
The previous thread, here, is now defunct and was a more humourous approach to things. But since I've received over 1.1B in donations to this fund I thought it only right to do it properly.
You can find more information on this including a brief bit on how T2 BPOs affect things over here on a sub-page of my blog. Please help spread the word and let's get the first BPO trashed asap!
Regards, <---- Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
De Guillaume
Overplayed Associates Ltd. Fatal Ascension
260
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:53:00 -
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best idea everreally |
sosumi u'hole
FPA T2 BPO Community Fund
0
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:55:00 -
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Confirming I'm an alt and I am waiting on a vote to complete before distributing shares to those who purchased them in the old thread. |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
75
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Posted - 2012.01.27 18:36:00 -
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I am sorry to say this is a lost cause by default. The more BPO's you buy, the more expensive the rest become. Besides, the people whom have enough money to actually buy a T2 BPO are generally the ones who own one or two already and the ones whom would donate to this fund are generally the ones who cannot miss the money.
That said, I welcome this initiative, I just don't think it's practical. Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
281
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Posted - 2012.01.27 19:04:00 -
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This is why the entry point (share cost) is set so low. How much Isk do you (or whoever is reading) earn in a day? How about using that, or half of it or even a quarter of it to purchase shares. If I can find people that are prepared to buy shares on a repeat basis every month that would be awesome! This does not rely on people making big share purchases.
I don't expect to be able to go out and buy Hulk BPOs or Ishtar BPOs because those really are truly expensive. However you can pick T2 BPOs up for as little as 5B. There is already 1.129B sitting in the corp wallet ready to go, another 3 or 4 B and we can have the first purchase.
3 or 4 B sounds a lot but if I can get this out to enough people then even small amounts will work. To that end I will be spending some time anchoring cans left right and center around gates into and out of major trade hubs. If you are a member of an alliance or corp then please, please, please drop a link to this thread in there. Public awareness will be key.
What would be really useful is a nice big T2 BPO whine thread in S&I. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
543
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Posted - 2012.01.27 19:12:00 -
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De Guillaume wrote:best idea ever really
Yea
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
543
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Posted - 2012.01.27 19:13:00 -
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Callean Drevus wrote:I am sorry to say this is a lost cause by default. The more BPO's you buy, the more expensive the rest become. Besides, the people whom have enough money to actually buy a T2 BPO are generally the ones who own one or two already and the ones whom would donate to this fund are generally the ones who cannot miss the money.
That said, I welcome this initiative, I just don't think it's practical.
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Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:13:00 -
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Possibly even more fun than just trashing them would be to stick one in a shuttle periodically, announce your location and then start bouncing around the system while the hounds close in. The rate of destruction might be lower but there would be additional grins and also the chance of redistribution to those who might otherwise never own one.
Edit - If you choose to go down that route I'll throw another few bil into the pot. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
281
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:38:00 -
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Very tempting. My initial concern with that would be I would need to take the character under -5.0 sec status. Otherwise it would require a suicide gank and the people interested in using it would not even attempt that.
It's doable, certainly, but I wonder how many would understand the mechanics well enough to know that killing a pirate shuttle wouldn't lead to kill rights or any CONCORD retribution.
Could possibly organise it through one of the eve related radio shows. They've probably got enough listeners that wouldn't mind hurting their sec.... Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
54
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Posted - 2012.01.27 20:39:00 -
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Hi.
This entier topic is crap.
If in theory you pull enough funds prove you are not gona steal them
When you do that prove you are gona buy a good bpo. Not one of those that makes modules that are so uslles people in jita dont even sell them.
After that prove you are also not gona buy a bpo form yourself.
And in the end after you prove all of this..... Congratulations you are a lier and a scammer. Why? Cause for each BPO you trash price of others goes up.... so you are in effect not doing anything constructive. You are in fact helping t2 BPO owners.
So you dear Sir are a lier, scammer, cheat, bad person, dushbag and a hemafrodite. Please go back the primordial gunk that you sleazed out of and stay there.
KK thanks... bb...
P.S. Those who gave him money you are idiots. Or alts. P.S.S.: those who support this... i have some boots that need licking if you are interested. My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
282
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:14:00 -
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Kagan Storm wrote: If in theory you pull enough funds prove you are not gona steal them
Proving I am not going to do something is, as you should be aware, not possible. How about you go find some proof of where i've scammed someone. Take your time.
Kagan Storm wrote: When you do that prove you are gona buy a good bpo. Not one of those that makes modules that are so uslles people in jita dont even sell them.
Aiming for a "good" T2 BPO requires significantly more isk for obvious reasons and means that things happen more slowly. One of the common perceptions is that if T2 BPOs for an item didn't exist then they would be profitable for inventors. I don't necessarily agree with that view point although there is an element of truth to it. Take Interceptors, the vast majority of those produced are done so with BPOs, the fewer the BPOs the more chance there is that we get to the point where demand gets to about the point where the extant BPOs can no longer fulfil that demand.
Alternatively there are BPOs for things like T2 small ammo that are used a lot and aren't particularly expensive. This is the area I've kind of marked as the entry point for this. Something like Barrage S or Scorch S wouldn't be a bad choice. They're profitable and relatively cheap.
Kagan Storm wrote: After that prove you are also not gona buy a bpo form yourself.
Would it honestly matter? The purchase price will be stated so it will be obvious if I overpaid or not. I also don't own any T2 BPOs anyway and don't have any particular interest in doing so. My position on them is quite clear.
Kagan Storm wrote: And in the end after you prove all of this..... Congratulations you are a lier and a scammer. Why? Cause for each BPO you trash price of others goes up.... so you are in effect not doing anything constructive. You are in fact helping t2 BPO owners.
There is an argument that the removal of any T2 BPO increases the profitability of the remaining ones and this is true. The issue was first raised by Bad Bobby in-game, if you're interested. As above does that really matter? It still reduces the amount of items that are brought into the game via BPO production which either increases profits for everyone or allows more people to invent that item for the same profit.
I've even suggested that people who own T2 BPOs have a vested interest in purchasing the shares in the hope that I trash one of the ones they own. Gatan has even offered a "bonus" to the fund if I trash one that he owns.
Kagan Storm wrote:So you dear Sir are a lier, scammer, cheat, bad person, dushbag and a hemafrodite. Please go back the primordial gunk that you sleazed out of and stay there. KK thanks... bb... P.S. Those who gave him money you are idiots. Or alts. P.S.S.: those who support this... i have some boots that need licking if you are interested.
umad? you seem mad. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:18:00 -
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Kagan! Quick! Behind you! The point that escaped you is getting away!
@Lauren - Damnable practicalities. |
Jimmyhatt
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
6
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:31:00 -
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This idea is ********.
So you want to ruin income of veteran players because you cant figure out how to make isk, so you decide to take away the competitive advantage?
Im sure as far as CCP is concerned the T2 BPO's are a reward for staying in the game so long.
You should have started playing when they had the lotto, then you wouldnt be complaining.
04 are die! |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
55
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:43:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:
umad? you seem mad.
How did you come to a conclusion im mad? I put a smiley.
And who is gatan? you mentioned him in your quote r ape of my post. My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |
Mardero
8
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:47:00 -
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Jimmyhatt wrote:This idea is ********.
So you want to ruin income of veteran players because you cant figure out how to make isk, so you decide to take away the competitive advantage?
Im sure as far as CCP is concerned the T2 BPO's are a reward for staying in the game so long.
You should have started playing when they had the lotto, then you wouldnt be complaining.
04 are die!
P.S. you talk too much Not_sure_if_serious.jpg |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
283
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:53:00 -
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Jimmyhatt wrote:So you want to ruin income of veteran players because you cant figure out how to make isk, so you decide to take away the competitive advantage?
Not quite. Let's work backwards since the last part is the most relevant here. It is not possible to remove the competitive advantage of a BPO with what I am doing. That advantage is inherent to BPOs. Not only do they not have any invention costs associated with production, they all started out with ME0 PE0 and they can be researched to reduce the waste of the normal materials as well as reducing the production time. Obviously the extra materials are constant for both BPOs and invented BPCs regardless of ME.
Secondly on that point I would only be removing BPOs that people no longer have a use for. If they still had a use for them then they wouldn't be selling them would they?
I also know very well how to make Isk. I'm currently offloading some of the T1 BPOs that I don't use, they come out to about 5.7B. I also make isk through market manipulations even if sometimes they don't work out too well (I got stuck with enough Nitrogen Isotopes to run my towers for more than 10 years). I have a Wolf with 1B of fittings on it, a Nightmare with more than 5B of fittings, CNR with 3B of fittings, Mach, Navy Domi the list goes on. Oh, in additional to all that I also plex 4 of my accounts.
As for it being an income for "veteran players" that's simply untrue. It's available to anyone that has the RL cash to drop on GTCs and can find someone selling a decent T2 BPO. Don't know if you're aware of Hax Zoidberg, but he mad plenty of Isk from failing under-collateralised courier contracts, admittedly he lost a chunk of that because some of the contracts he failed were created with a dupe exploit but he still made good bank in his first months. You should really understand that I am not, personally, against T2 BPOs. I pretty much don't care one way or the other. This is a community fund because it exists so that those who want to get rid of them and can't afford to buy and trash them individually have somewhere to pool resources to get that done.
Jimmyhatt wrote:Im sure as far as CCP is concerned the T2 BPO's are a reward for staying in the game so long.
Not quite, CCP have stated that they thought the BPO lottery was a Bad ThingGäó. They haven't stated any position on the good/bad or otherwise of T2 BPOs. They also can't be a reward "for staying in the game so long" since you didn't need to have a character/account of a certain age to participate in the lottery when it was running and as noted above the only thing you need to get one is Isk.
Jimmyhatt wrote:You should have started playing when they had the lotto, then you wouldnt be complaining.
I'm really not complaining about them. Honest. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
283
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:55:00 -
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Kagan Storm wrote: And who is gatan? you mentioned him in your quote r ape of my post.
Sorry for the quote rape - it's just what I do. Gatan is the guy that posted this. He'll pay an additional 10m (peanuts I know) for any BPO trashed that he owns a duplicate of.
Oh, and please have fun with the stuff about kick-backs.
Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
klar valimar
Colossus Technologies Project Wildfire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:57:00 -
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I just consider getting one of the tech bpo's to be a challenge and another level to reach for. I think taking them out of the game would diminish the game. More goals to work for, more things to do, the more robust a game is and people play longer.
tech 2 bpos are such a small portion of the manufacturing pot that they really are not a big deal. I do not understand why people whine about them so much. |
Jimmyhatt
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
6
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:59:00 -
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I have more isk than you :) |
Stonewall Jackie
EVE University Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2012.01.27 22:08:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:What is it?The fund provides a means for players to group together in order to acquire T2 BPOs for the sole purpose of their removal from the game. This is achieved by simply buying any available T2 BPO from the market and trashing it. The trashing of all T2 BPOs is captured using a screen grabber and the video is then edited and uploaded to youtube. Top Why do this?The existence of T2 BPOs within EVE online is viewed by many as an abhorrent anomaly. These people believe that the T2 BPOs unduly and unfairly influence the profit available to and the viability of invention. There are others who simply feel that they are an outdated resource that should be removed. There are repeated calls for CCP to remove them from the game via various proposed mechanics from a simple deletion from the database through mutations on spawning Isk, utilising Isk seized from RMTers to purchase at market rate or an arbitrary fixed price. This is unlikely to ever happen. The problem is that T2 BPOs are expensive and many people will never acquire enough isk at any one point in time to be able to buy them. This is where the fund comes in. By selling shares belonging to the in-game Corporation capital is built up to enable us to remove these items from the game on behalf of the players that want to see this happen. How does it work?Very simply, you send Isk to me in multiples of 1M and I will return to you an equivalent number of shares. You are then free to do with the shares what you wish. The corp ticker is [T2H8R] so if you know anyone that is a T2 Hater then send some their way - or even better, encourage them to participate. The previous thread, here, is now defunct and was a more humourous approach to things. But since I've received over 1.1B in donations to this fund I thought it only right to do it properly. You can find more information on this including a brief bit on how T2 BPOs affect things over here on a sub-page of my blog. Please help spread the word and let's get the first BPO trashed asap! Regards, <----
Getting in on this thread because hopefully this will be a sweet scam in 6 months. Enjoy your investor backed BPO's? |
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.27 22:11:00 -
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@Jimmyhatt: That's nice. But considering I only have (excluding the donations so far) about 3.5B Isk to hand it's not exactly a grand claim.
@klar valimar: There is no way I can remove all the T2 BPOs from the game with this. If it helps think of what I'm doing as something that makes your eventual acquisition of a T2 BPO all the sweeter. You will own one of fewer than exist now. Maybe.
As far as T2 BPOs being "such a small portion of the manufacturing pot", the information that CCP released would tend to disagree. A little over half of all T2 ships were produced from BPOs and a little under a thrid of all T2 modules were produced from BPOs.
I think that the biggest issue people have with them is that, again according to CCP, 10% of those producing T2 modules/ships account for 34% of the volume. That's volume by quantity and not price. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Rasz Lin
45
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Posted - 2012.01.28 05:01:00 -
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WTS a video of me trashing T2 BPO, any BPO you request. Pixel perfect 1080i + text log :P |
Ireland VonVicious
Gurista Saints Assassin Confederacy
18
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Posted - 2012.01.28 07:38:00 -
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BEST SCAM EVER
Give me isk, Give me isk, Give me isk |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
75
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Posted - 2012.01.28 09:01:00 -
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I do not know why I think this, but Lauren is a reputable person. As such, I do not think he is actually scamming here. Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1754
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Posted - 2012.01.28 10:26:00 -
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Callean Drevus wrote:I do not know why I think this, but Lauren is a reputable person. As such, I do not think he is actually scamming here.
all scammers have to start somewhere andski for csm7~ |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:03:00 -
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Ireland VonVicious wrote:BEST SCAM EVER Give me isk, Give me isk, Give me isk
Not quite. I may as well highlight the similarity between this and a successful scam although I'd bet that most people won't remember it or have been around for it. Anyone remember Yih? He ran a successful scam despite it being fairly obvious that the chance of scam was high. His plan? Disband goons, he got Kartoon to pretend to be his main as "proof" that he could pull it off.
The similarity? People gave him isk against their better judgement on the slim chance that he was for real. Whilst I am not using this to scam it is doing a similar thing: Gathering Isk from those that desire the outcome stated.
So yeah, I'd vote Yih for best scam evar!
@Callean Drevus: Prepare to become my obvious alt!
@Andski: Very true, however there are not many scammers that start by undergoing a full VV audit and running a successful IPO for 6 months before cashing everyone out. If I were to scam it'd need to be a for a significantly higher amount than I am ever likely to hold at any one time with this. If you see me launch "FPA Obvious scam bond: 200b unsecured @ 20%" then you should start worrying. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:04:00 -
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On the plus side though, I've received an additional 50M so the fund now stands at 1,179M Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
75
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:41:00 -
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nice scam you deserve a cookie for it ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:18:00 -
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Still not a scam, even for a cookie. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
350
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:20:00 -
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I support this product and/or service and/or scam. |
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Tekota
The Freighter Factory
167
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:37:00 -
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Further 3m sent to make up to what was apparently the correct meme in the first place and to prove that I am without a shadow of a doubt, a LH alt.
Albeit a more wrinkly one.
With longer skirts trousers. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.29 00:18:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:I support this product and/or service and/or scam.
Supporters send isk. Just saying.
@everyone who sent isk: New improved [T2H8R] shares are now in your wallets. Spread the love. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
J0HN RAMB0
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.01.29 00:37:00 -
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If you want to proof that this is legit you have to use a third party to hold the ISK. The third party would also have to buy the BPO and destroy it. The BPO has to be destroyed by killing a ship that has the BPO in its cargohold. You can then use the API to proof that the BPO was destroyed. |
Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:25:00 -
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J0HN RAMB0 wrote:If you want to proof that this is legit you have to use a third party to hold the ISK. The third party would also have to buy the BPO and destroy it.
Why? Lauren has held a few bil in public money before and it is highly unlikely that this scheme will ever end up with her holding more than 5 or 6 bil, an amount she could easily get her hands on if she ran a straightforward bond. API pull for the destruction is a good idea though.
In the unlikely event that this programme becomes sufficiently popular that Lauren is so flooded with isk that the figures get into the double figure billions at any one time, I would be happy to hold anything above a fixed cap if that would be felt to be useful. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.29 20:47:00 -
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Yeah, no worries on passing either blocks of Isk or collateral (to usual bond terms) if by some miracle I end up getting inundated with purchases.
Destroying via ganking a ship with it in the hold is doable but runs the risk of losing it before it is destroyed. If that were to happen how would you expect me to prove that it wasn't a staged gank by one of my unknown alts?
The thought behind the frapsing of trashing it was that it was the easiest way to ensure and prove the destruction. The basic outline of the fraps footage would include an open local window (the BPO is most likely to be located in Jita) with only the BPO in the hangar, a show info being performed followed by the trash and confirmation box.
One alternative I had considered involved a live stream of the client with a public chat channel open that any interested parties could join and speak in to accompany the fraps. That would, however, require me to sort out my connection or talk someone else into doing it and uploading some fraps after the event. I like the idea of a live stream since it would open up the "I was there" side of things as well. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Dethmourne Silvermane
RAD BROMANCE
9
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Posted - 2012.01.29 22:16:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:Yeah, no worries on passing either blocks of Isk or collateral (to usual bond terms) if by some miracle I end up getting inundated with purchases. Destroying via ganking a ship with it in the hold is doable but runs the risk of losing it before it is destroyed. If that were to happen how would you expect me to prove that it wasn't a staged gank by one of my unknown alts? The thought behind the frapsing of trashing it was that it was the easiest way to ensure and prove the destruction. The basic outline of the fraps footage would include an open local window (the BPO is most likely to be located in Jita) with only the BPO in the hangar, a show info being performed followed by the trash and confirmation box. One alternative I had considered involved a live stream of the client with a public chat channel open that any interested parties could join and speak in to accompany the fraps. That would, however, require me to sort out my connection or talk someone else into doing it and uploading some fraps after the event. I like the idea of a live stream since it would open up the "I was there" side of things as well.
I can think of a good way to gank them, but you'd have to get them to a safe-enough location first. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro In Vitro.
286
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Posted - 2012.01.29 23:05:00 -
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Well, my first thought was to tripple account it.
1) Orca to move the BPO in corp hangar with a bunch of shuttles in the SMA. Sets up in a proper safe in a quiet high-sec system. 2) Sacrificial pilot in shuttle grabs from the corp hangar. 3) Main pew pews it to death. 4) Sacrificial pilot gets into new shuttle. 5) If BPO not destroyed sacrificial pilot picks it out the can and awaits destruction. 6) Repeat sreps 3-6 as required. Help rid New Eden of T2 BPOs:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62797 The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/ Now showing: The incursion situation |
Jurinak
Galcom Omega
0
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Posted - 2012.01.30 10:36:00 -
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- thrashing some shitload BPOs like "foxfire rocket thrash" - he guys now lets buy some good BPOs - collect a few Hundred Bill.
Profit \o/
nice try, so stupid that it will work, for sure because a lot of people think that T2 BPOs are a bad thing and they a stupid like hell
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Aggressive Nutmeg
111
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Posted - 2012.02.07 06:08:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:What is it?The fund provides a means for players to group together in order to acquire T2 BPOs for the sole purpose of their removal from the game. This is achieved by simply buying any available T2 BPO from the market and trashing it. The trashing of all T2 BPOs is captured using a screen grabber and the video is then edited and uploaded to youtube. Top Why do this?The existence of T2 BPOs within EVE online is viewed by many as an abhorrent anomaly. These people believe that the T2 BPOs unduly and unfairly influence the profit available to and the viability of invention. There are others who simply feel that they are an outdated resource that should be removed. There are repeated calls for CCP to remove them from the game via various proposed mechanics from a simple deletion from the database through mutations on spawning Isk, utilising Isk seized from RMTers to purchase at market rate or an arbitrary fixed price. This is unlikely to ever happen. The problem is that T2 BPOs are expensive and many people will never acquire enough isk at any one point in time to be able to buy them. This is where the fund comes in. By selling shares belonging to the in-game Corporation capital is built up to enable us to remove these items from the game on behalf of the players that want to see this happen. How does it work?Very simply, you send Isk to me in multiples of 1M and I will return to you an equivalent number of shares. You are then free to do with the shares what you wish. The corp ticker is [T2H8R] so if you know anyone that is a T2 Hater then send some their way - or even better, encourage them to participate. The previous thread, here, is now defunct and was a more humourous approach to things. But since I've received over 1.1B in donations to this fund I thought it only right to do it properly. You can find more information on this including a brief bit on how T2 BPOs affect things over here on a sub-page of my blog. Please help spread the word and let's get the first BPO trashed asap! Regards, <---- My nonsense alarm just went off. But...Aah... too lazy to argue the point... Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom Investments
0
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Posted - 2012.02.07 07:38:00 -
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You know, this is a win-win.
Lauren destroys T2BPOs-Win
Laura Acquires T2BPOs through public donations-Win
Either we help rid EVE of 'ebil' T2BPOs, or help fund an epic scam.
As was said, it's so stupid it will/should/could work.
Whether it is will be a result I'm loooking forward to with great anticipation.
Either way, good job Lauren, I like the ambition. Cynical Troll-ish Psuedo-Dutch Guys Rule. |
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Cash Godness
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.02.07 15:58:00 -
[41] - Quote
a.I do have T2 BPOs, easy to check by visiting my threads. I will keep at least one for myself and never sell it, so you can't destroy it. YOU FAILED ! b. You're a scammer, trying to fool peeps. Your plan is obvious and it got defaced. YOU FAILED ! Either way, YOU FAILED ! |
Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:25:00 -
[42] - Quote
Cash Godness wrote:a.I do have T2 BPOs, easy to check by visiting my threads. I will keep at least one for myself and never sell it, so you can't destroy it. YOU FAILED ! b. You're a scammer, trying to fool peeps. Your plan is obvious and it got defaced. YOU FAILED ! Either way, YOU FAILED !
At reading the thread ...
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Therese Ishihara
IT Minerals Industries
1
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:26:00 -
[43] - Quote
I look forward to seeing how this scam plays out. |
Angsty Teenager
Sinister Elite
40
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:41:00 -
[44] - Quote
Cash Godness wrote:a.I do have T2 BPOs, easy to check by visiting my threads. I will keep at least one for myself and never sell it, so you can't destroy it. YOU FAILED ! b. You're a scammer, trying to fool peeps. Your plan is obvious and it got defaced. YOU FAILED ! Either way, YOU FAILED !
This person is upset and doesn't understand humor. |
Rich Girl
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.13 20:44:00 -
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Tl;dr, is this a scam? |
Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
100
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Posted - 2012.04.14 12:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS. I don't want to set the world on fire... Just you.
Psychotic Tendencies is now recruiting skilled PvP pilots of all TZ's. |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies THE UNTHINKABLES
48
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Posted - 2012.04.14 23:35:00 -
[47] - Quote
screenshot or it never happened. |
Brock Nelson
573
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:18:00 -
[48] - Quote
I like to think this venture is hugely successful based on the reaction of the last few posters... Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
42
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:24:00 -
[49] - Quote
Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS.
T2 BPOs were originally given out for free |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
46
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Posted - 2012.04.15 00:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
Liberty Eternal wrote:Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS. T2 BPOs were originally given out for free
This, ROI on T2BPO is instant and astronimical. SO it's about 100 billion in 1 second best ROI of anything in eve.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
487
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Posted - 2012.04.15 20:07:00 -
[51] - Quote
why not do something with the bpos to make money for the share holders + the rest goes to buying another t2bpo.
how would this help? lets say you get the first t2 bpo for say, scourge t2 ammo production starts, 20% of the profit goes back to investors, 80% goes back to corp wallet for new t2bpo. once you have the maxed production for your character (11?) your trash the first BPO, or do w/e to kill it and the 12 bpo goes into production
this method would A possible get people involved for the chance of making isk B make you isk C make the corp isk to get more bpos faster
imo the ends justify the means. i might put in some isk just to be a part of an epic scam and or event. |
Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
73
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Posted - 2012.05.04 17:37:00 -
[52] - Quote
I will be very disappointed if this is not a scam. |
Tradelita
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.04 17:46:00 -
[53] - Quote
Liberty Eternal wrote:T2 BPOs, Minerals, Datacores, LP goods, officer mods and a ton of other stuff are given out for "free"
FTFY. |
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
226
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:06:00 -
[54] - Quote
Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS.
By that standard, all investments are losses.
Which they're not.
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Mya ElleTerego
The Hull Miners Union
22
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:45:00 -
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Im pretty sure Ms hellfury wouldn't scam me, that being said. Im in for a bil. Id like to hit the t2 bpo owners with some elephant wang.
Btw: For those of you with an iq under 80, this will not hurt bpo owners. All this will do is limit their effect on the market. This will even the playing field for the inventors. So what if the last ishtar bpo is now worth 2 trillion isk. It doesnt mean that they can now sell billion isk ishtars. It means x amt of ishtars are no longer available for uncompetitive prices. Inventors will fix the market, just look at t2 cap rechargers, and how they were pre invention.
Good luck Ms hellfury. |
Mya ElleTerego
The Hull Miners Union
22
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:58:00 -
[56] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:Daniel L'Siata wrote:You people really suck at understanding economics if you think T2 BPO's give you huge margins.
Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay off the print? Hint, it's a huge number, and that's before you even start making profit on it. You're running at a loss for YEARS. By that standard, all investments are losses. Which they're not.
I keep hearing this absolutely ******** comment, about how investments, and dividends / profits are recieved off them. Its not like you bought machinery thats going to wear out, and in 10 months its worthless. If anything they never stop raising in value, with inflation, and random acct quit / bans. I mean damn its like having a rare baseball card, that pays you weekly, but still goes up in value, would be nice if we had those in real life.
TLDR: YOU DO NOT LOSE YOUR ASSET, IT JUST MAKES YOU MONEY! WHEN YOU TIRE OF SAID ASSET, SELL IT FOR MORE THAN YOU PAID FOR IT! |
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