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angeleyess
Gallente The Royal Guard Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2007.11.05 23:18:00 -
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nice write-up
wish I could've been at the last fight. damn crap wireless.. hopefully starts working again before I miss all the fun :)
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Camar
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.05 23:18:00 -
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Nice read, seems to be rare these days.
Keep up the quality Darth and co
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Xendie
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.05 23:28:00 -
[33]
Nice write up, made for an interesting read!
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Alekseyev Karrde
The Royal Guard Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2007.11.05 23:38:00 -
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Very interesting read, thanks to both the writer AND poster.
Seems pretty balanced to me; the Branch residents have been keeping constant pressure on Insurgency POS and Insurgency has been countering with some truely impressive defense. It has been and continues to be alot of fun, with relativly low smack levels.
Should continue to be very interesting for the next few months. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -Alekseyev Ambassador, Fleet Commander, Council Member =The Royal Guard= "=TRG=Public" Channel www.rgrocks.com
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Greenspan
System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.11.06 01:41:00 -
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Great read! Fely u attention *****.
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Fedaykin Naib
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.06 03:36:00 -
[36]
Sounds like alot of fun! Great write up!
"Long Live the Fighters!"
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M00dy
Killed In Action
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Posted - 2007.11.06 05:49:00 -
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Good job.
Hey, are you guys really NRDS?
RATatatatata
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Hammar Wolf
Wolf Echelon Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.11.06 06:24:00 -
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Edited by: Hammar Wolf on 06/11/2007 06:24:30 Pretty good write up. I am writing this wall of text to add a bit more detail from the CPU perspective on the major battle this past Saturday and the campaign.
On the last major battle: Insurgency forces entered J7YR to make a stand for their POS which was coming out of RF at 14:30, as a coalition gang was finishing off the last Insurgency POS in O-J that morning. Coalition forces began to rally and found that Insurgency, having arrived earlier, held the system with all entry gates camped and their sniper BS setup at the POS ready to warp in on any gate at their standard 180km range.
As the fleet came together around 13:30 it was inherently divided into three sections, with one group in J7YR, a second detachment in PKG and a third in AH-B84; all kept apart by Insurgency gate camps and large bubbles. By 14:15 the fleet had massed enough to outnumber Insurgency by 120 to roughly 80, not including the capital gang in J7YR composed of carriers and dreads and intended for their POS.
Insurgency had fewer numbers, but holding the system their heavy long range BS and large tackler support provided for an effective defense strategy as the combined alliance fleet sought to enter the system and break their hold but had no superiority in any group. Hence the diverse fleet assembled, and I don't just mean in force and style of fighting, but also in language (which makes for awesome TS between English, German and Russian), had to figure out a means of coalescing into one force and engaging Insurgency.
The choice was made, with time running out, and Insurgency carriers in system ready to rep their POS back, that the battle would take place on the PKG gate with the main force warping in and the PKG group jumping in from the other side along with the AH group for reinforcement. As a long battle ensued, Insurgency's tactics proved superior as they warped their large BS group from point to point always fighting at 140-190km away from the main allied formation. These were not guerrilla tactics, but rather the skillful deployment of a large sniper battleship group, which had been the only tactic seen from Insurgency in the past two weeks. The few allied dictors present were lost early in the fight while Insurgency maintained a considerable tackling capability and their battleship primaries were often able to escape only to warp back in again into the fight later. While holding superior numbers, the allied fleet was very disadvantaged in the battle by a lack of tacklers and long range battleships in comparison to Insurgency.
During the blaze that followed, with many explosions and successful lag generation for an hour straight, allied forces deployed their carrier group into the fight, which proved useful but indecisive, luckily though no caps were lost (but one got its paint scratched). In the end allied forces took many costly casualties, due to tactical and force structure mistakes, and withdrew from the field allowing Insurgency to fix their embattled POS. We give them props for a well earned victory.
On the campaign: As of Saturday insurgency has no POS or presence in the 304-QS constellation, but strategically is limited to one embattled sponge POS in J7YR-1 outside the constellation and outnumbered by the allied POS present there. Allied forces hold the system much of the time, usually outnumbering insurgency, and have essentially run out of targets since insurgency has not put down any new POSs to reinforce.
Darth is pretty much on the money as to how the past two weeks have gone, except for thinking that last Saturday was the decisive battle, the decisive non-battle was a week ago on Wednesday when coalition forces first reinforced the POS with a well over 200 man fleet. Alliances of the north have come together for the campaign and continue to work with greater coordination, while at this stage, Insurgency has not made any offensive moves since last week.
So, we hope for more great battles in the coming weeks.
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ImUrDestiny
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 07:04:00 -
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Thanks Hammar for a nice write-up presenting the Northern Alliance point of view. Props for u guy for showing up for every fight. May we have as much fun from now on as well.
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Cassandra Bloom
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.06 07:28:00 -
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Very nice b-report, it seems i start to enjoy my coffee again at work in the morning reading good stuff on CAOD, thank you. I enjoy to see Insrg-Celes finally re-lives up to its name and not being the "unorganized mob of grabasstic pieces of amphibian crap", like Cpt Pugas said in another thread in less words .
This is my rolemodel of a CAOD thread, without that goonspam reply, so far at least.
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kill0rbunny
Jagdkommando Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2007.11.06 07:49:00 -
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Nice reading on both sides.
Continue to bring it, we are learning a lot from that.
I pew therefore I am.
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Xendie
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 08:09:00 -
[42]
Cheers Hammer Wolf, was nice to read it from your view point.
Will also add that I've not seen any smack what so ever, so props to everyone... how it should be :)
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Anijae
Panta-Rhei Event-Horizon
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Posted - 2007.11.06 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie Will also add that I've not seen any smack what so ever, so props to everyone... how it should be :)
Like he said....
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Kram Calama
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 09:51:00 -
[44]
Two very well balanced and informative posts in one thread. OMG, what's COAD coming to?
Congrats to my alliance mates and our worthy opponents. I hope you are all having as much fun as me on the battlefield and let's hope there is much more to come.
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Alekseyev Karrde
The Royal Guard Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2007.11.06 09:56:00 -
[45]
The smackage i've witnessed came primarily from whatever Insurgency group regularly camps G9D.
But it's been really localized; if anything local chatter when both sides deploy fleets is pretty friendly, considering the circumstances.
I think both sides are learning and adapting to one another. When Insurgency first started trouble up here, it was almost entirely roaming nano gangs. They continue to use said nano gangs, but as Hammar mentioned they've recently demonstrated surprising skill at long-range sniper combat with slow moving BS as well.
The evolution of tactics is really fascinating to me, and this conflict has certainly provided alot of insight there.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -Alekseyev Ambassador, Fleet Commander, Council Member =The Royal Guard= "=TRG=Public" Channel www.rgrocks.com
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 10:09:00 -
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"warped their large BS group from point to point always fighting at 140-190km away from the main allied formation. These were not guerrilla tactics, but rather the skillful deployment of a large sniper battleship group"
its interesting that u mention this. celes apoc has always been close range BS, and when INSRG started we continued this. its not been easy to get the boys to change as they do enjoy the buzz from fighting close, but when u fight for space the actual fight isnt the important thing which id never thought id say.
iv been watching all the EVE videos of long range fighting, fighting larger numbers through outranging, especially the BOB ones.. warp to points with designated targets. we still have alot to learn in that side of things, but as they say practice makes perfect.
This is all new to me and im amazed at how well its gone, but having so many good leaders around certainly helps. i dont think iv had one day without a mail from a corp looking to join. seems everyone is looking for that fun factor in EVE again.
d solo.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde The smackage i've witnessed came primarily from whatever Insurgency group regularly camps G9D.
But it's been really localized; if anything local chatter when both sides deploy fleets is pretty friendly, considering the circumstances.
I think both sides are learning and adapting to one another. When Insurgency first started trouble up here, it was almost entirely roaming nano gangs. They continue to use said nano gangs, but as Hammar mentioned they've recently demonstrated surprising skill at long-range sniper combat with slow moving BS as well.
The evolution of tactics is really fascinating to me, and this conflict has certainly provided alot of insight there.
you call talking abut finding stuf in garbage cans and linking the cake song on youtube smack?
you have a odd sens of whats smack
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |
Smith
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.06 10:57:00 -
[48]
This was acceptable to read.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 11:04:00 -
[49]
Originally by: SATAN Nice write up.
So you guys going to become land holders? Or just helping out?
its just INSRG, we have a couple of blues but none assist us.
It will be taken as far as the boys want to take it, ill steer the ship but its up to everyone to power it. so claiming space, aye, super cap building aye, 10.000 members? aye, if a stroke doesnt kick in that is.
hey it could all fail tomorrow. who knows.
d solo.
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Malarki X
Caldari Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.06 11:28:00 -
[50]
I allways enjoyed a good report. Granted it has nothig to do with me, but its allways fun to read battle reports that are well writen and objective as it can be.
Looks like you had fun, looking forward to future reports
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Sith Bandon
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2007.11.06 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN Nice write up.
So you guys going to become land holders? Or just helping out?
Why you lookin for a place to move out of p3 ? \o/
p.s: nice write-up dark
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Chip2k3 on 06/11/2007 12:53:18 Excellent write up's by Fel and by whoever wrote Hammar Wolf's write up (If I remember from the previous thread English isnt his primary language). LOL, funny when you talk about primary languages and cant spell language right!
I've been having a blast so far, truly the most fun I've ever had in Eve in the last 2 years. The use of tactics against each other has been excellent from both sides, and as they say they are ever changing. As darth rightly said, this is the first time that INSRG have gone range in fights, being very used to inurface pewpewpew, and it's lots of fun.
Great job to our guys, we're gonna keep fighting. To CPU, GSA and Stella Polar, keep bringing it, you make me hawt
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Mr Broker
Amarr Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.11.06 13:43:00 -
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I thought Insurgency didn't do pos wars.
Now that BOB's influence is being limited, all these little groups that didn't like POS wars earlier are now starting to do think it's worth it.
The war affects everyone, even if you don't fight in it directly.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.06 13:46:00 -
[54]
Good read.
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kidrob
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: kidrob on 06/11/2007 14:27:20 Good post Hammar Wolf - nice write-up! - Its nice to hear such a statement/report without smack etc - i hope we see us on battlefield soon for another great fight... Cheers
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Almarez
Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.11.06 14:45:00 -
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Very well written report although I would encourage BOTH sides to post both kills and losses. Due to ill son I have not been playing much but I look forward to joining the fight when he gets better. Much respect to both sides for not shying away although my thoughts have always been on uniting against a common foe in the southwest for instance.
News flash: Alliance losing members at an astounding rate but it's okay cause I just saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geiko.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Broker I thought Insurgency didn't do pos wars.
Now that BOB's influence is being limited, all these little groups that didn't like POS wars earlier are now starting to do think it's worth it.
The war affects everyone, even if you don't fight in it directly.
we have over 1000 members and 22 corps. hardly little.
We dont POS spam, some POS structures are needed to maintain security for our members, some are needed for staging points, others to draw out the enemy, some to make isk from moons, some to use to defend cynos.
all the large fights have been dictated by POS structures either attacking them or defending them..
personally i see POS as a fight magnet.
d solo.
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Reprimander
The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.06 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Almarez ... although my thoughts have always been on uniting against a common foe in the southwest for instance.
hehe, well.... I'll tell you a sekrit :D
Celes hate BoB but not all the corps in INSRG hate BoB at all.. in fact we have quite a few who dislike the goons much more... so we figured it was best to focus on local issues for local people, and ignore the 'great war'.... for now ;)
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Mr Broker
Amarr Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.11.06 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Mr Broker I thought Insurgency didn't do pos wars.
Now that BOB's influence is being limited, all these little groups that didn't like POS wars earlier are now starting to do think it's worth it.
The war affects everyone, even if you don't fight in it directly.
we have over 1000 members and 22 corps. hardly little.
We dont POS spam, some POS structures are needed to maintain security for our members, some are needed for staging points, others to draw out the enemy, some to make isk from moons, some to use to defend cynos.
all the large fights have been dictated by POS structures either attacking them or defending them..
personally i see POS as a fight magnet.
d solo.
and you are right, pos wars doesn't mean pos spam, it just means wars involving a lot of pos.
I was just saying that your corp and others had played a different tune about it not so long ago
If you know how to avoid heavy lag, you will enjoy yourself.
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Almarez
Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.11.06 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Almarez ... although my thoughts have always been on uniting against a common foe in the southwest for instance.
hehe, well.... I'll tell you a sekrit :D
Celes hate BoB but not all the corps in INSRG hate BoB at all.. in fact we have quite a few who dislike the goons much more... so we figured it was best to focus on local issues for local people, and ignore the 'great war'.... for now ;)
Fair enough. It is fun nonetheless for all those involved. I never have an issue with a group trying to better themselves through conflict and I give much respect to Insurg for taking on so many other alliances. In any case the outcome here will leave a stronger north so the point is to have as much fun in the meantime. As I said my Eve life has really died down due to RL issues but I will be back on soon. I am just about done training for T2 HAMS and am really looking forward to losing a Sacrilege or two.
News flash: Alliance losing members at an astounding rate but it's okay cause I just saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geiko.
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