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Mambo Ted
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:07:00 -
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Why did someone think this was a good idea??
I'm doing a Level 4 mission 'Enemies Abound' (tricky enough as it is) i notice reds in system and go to station to wait for them to bugger off. Meanwhile they've probed out the spot and finished it off and taken what i needed to complete it. So now i've lost standing and a very lucrative mission.
Ace. That was fun. The excitment never ends.
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mambo Ted If your doing a mission you should be undiscoverable to PvPrs.
No, you really shouldn't.
That would create a situation where you are immune to PvP outside a station. That is against the rules of EVE.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mambo Ted If your doing a mission you should be undiscoverable to PvPrs.
I disagree. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |
Mamba Lev
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mamba Lev on 07/11/2007 17:10:11 No that would create a situation when running a mission your immune to PvPers. Are you thick?
Oh and pirates don't get an opinion on this. Nice easy griefing for them though it is...
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:10:00 -
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uh you could just wait until after downtiem when the mission resets?
seriously though, this is a 1/10 on the troll scale, next time put some thought into it
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44 *EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
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Angel DeMorphis
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mambo Ted Why did someone think this was a good idea??
I'm doing a Level 4 mission 'Enemies Abound' (tricky enough as it is) i notice reds in system and go to station to wait for them to bugger off. Meanwhile they've probed out the spot and finished it off and taken what i needed to complete it. So now i've lost standing and a very lucrative mission.
Ace. That was fun. The excitment never ends.
If your doing a mission you should be undiscoverable to PvPrs.
So, you gave them enough time to probe you and your mission out before leaving it? Doesn't sound like Eve's problem.... |
Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:11:00 -
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At least you did the right thing docking and not whining about dieing if you didn't.
Downside is you need to get some friends to help you kill the reds. It is a multiplayer game with a lot of people playing, so being on a team of 1 isn't so great.
Having said that, grats for having guts to mission in low sec (assuming it was). Most ppl stubbornly refuse to believe you can more make profit low sec missioning
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Mambo Ted
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:14:00 -
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I checked with a shuttle and didn't lose a thing and it was 0.1.
Just agreveating losing your screen to the local window stretched out so i can see it all worrying about PvP when i want to be running missions. If i want the risk of dieing while PvEing i'll go Rat... |
Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mambo Ted I checked with a shuttle and didn't lose a thing and it was 0.1.
Just agreveating losing your screen to the local window stretched out so i can see it all worrying about PvP when i want to be running missions. If i want the risk of dieing while PvEing i'll go Rat...
Then you shouldn't be in low-sec. Anywhere in EVE you risk being destroyed if you leave the hangar. Missions are no exception, and low-sec is especially risky. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |
Martin Mckenna
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mambo Ted If your doing a mission you should be undiscoverable to PvPrs.
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Sasha Sen
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Spoon Thumb
Having said that, grats for having guts to mission in low sec (assuming it was). Most ppl stubbornly refuse to believe you can more make profit low sec missioning
It is not very profitable when you have to dock because reds came in the system. Sure rewards are better, but you also spend most of the time trying to avoid gankers while in high sec you get it done and move on to the next one. Time vs Reward
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mambo Ted If i want the risk of dieing while PvEing i'll go Rat...
This is a basic principle of EVE. For more reward you're supposed to take more risks. Low sec is considered a bit broken on this scale at the moment, but agents there give better rewards than those in high sec. To counter this you take the risk of being killed by someone.
High sec is about as safe as it gets. You will always have the risk of being attacked by someone in EVE, no matter where you are. The only exception is when you are docked. It will never change, it's just how it is.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Sen
Originally by: Spoon Thumb
Having said that, grats for having guts to mission in low sec (assuming it was). Most ppl stubbornly refuse to believe you can more make profit low sec missioning
It is not very profitable when you have to dock because reds came in the system. Sure rewards are better, but you also spend most of the time trying to avoid gankers while in high sec you get it done and move on to the next one. Time vs Reward
Unless you're smart about it and just find an unpopulated system, like I have. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |
Sasha Sen
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Sasha Sen
Originally by: Spoon Thumb
Having said that, grats for having guts to mission in low sec (assuming it was). Most ppl stubbornly refuse to believe you can more make profit low sec missioning
It is not very profitable when you have to dock because reds came in the system. Sure rewards are better, but you also spend most of the time trying to avoid gankers while in high sec you get it done and move on to the next one. Time vs Reward
Unless you're smart about it and just find an unpopulated system, like I have.
be my friend and share your secrets
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Sen
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Sasha Sen
Originally by: Spoon Thumb
Having said that, grats for having guts to mission in low sec (assuming it was). Most ppl stubbornly refuse to believe you can more make profit low sec missioning
It is not very profitable when you have to dock because reds came in the system. Sure rewards are better, but you also spend most of the time trying to avoid gankers while in high sec you get it done and move on to the next one. Time vs Reward
Unless you're smart about it and just find an unpopulated system, like I have.
be my friend and share your secrets
Yeah, you just want to "probe" tarminic
Seriously though, this is how it's been for a while, and probably will be. As they say, nothing is safe, except 0.5 and higher...almost
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Sen be my friend and share your secrets
If you search my forum posts, you'll find that I have actually publicly announced my residence several times. You can also use a locater agent to track me down if you feel like it. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |
SN3263827
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:38:00 -
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It is already very time-consuming to probe down mission runners, and there are things you can do to make it even harder.
Find out what they are, do them.
Or run and hide in high sec like a good little state-puppet should _____________________________________________
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mamba Lev Edited by: Mamba Lev on 07/11/2007 17:10:11 No that would create a situation when running a mission your immune to PvPers. Are you thick?
Oh and pirates don't get an opinion on this. Nice easy griefing for them though it is...
ehh all it does is making you stay in high sec running the missions.. and the fact that you can (don't know if you still can) probe people in high sec, and attack them without getting concorded is laughable and idiotic beyond believe.
when that is said i would call it harashment to jump in and take the item that is required to complete the mission.
although in eve it seems the gm's/devs or whoever sets the rules have their heads so far up their asses that they do not realize that attitude comes with consequence, and i really hope that these people do not have children and if they have that they do actually attend to them with another approach then what they are bringing to eve, or we will just have one more person in the world that is a wasted of air and which we would have been better of without.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vitrael on 07/11/2007 17:42:41
Originally by: Mamba Lev Edited by: Mamba Lev on 07/11/2007 17:10:11 No that would create a situation when running a mission your immune to PvPers. Are you thick?
Oh and pirates don't get an opinion on this. Nice easy griefing for them though it is...
Congratulations on responding in your alt post thread and revealing your main. CVA pigdog.
So basically you want great reward with no risk? I think you wanted this.
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Buyerr and the fact that you can (don't know if you still can) probe people in high sec, and attack them without getting concorded is laughable and idiotic beyond believe.
You never could, you still can't. _____________________________________________
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Vitrael
Originally by: Mamba Lev Edited by: Mamba Lev on 07/11/2007 17:10:11 No that would create a situation when running a mission your immune to PvPers. Are you thick?
Oh and pirates don't get an opinion on this. Nice easy griefing for them though it is...
Congratulations on responding in your alt post thread and revealing your main. CVA pigdog.
What. The. ****.
The CVA guy is disagreeing with the OP. Unless he does in fact have split personalities why would he flame himself?
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian The CVA guy is disagreeing with the OP. Unless he does in fact have split personalities why would he flame himself?
No, he's disagreeing with you.
You said "it will create a situation where you are immune outside a station..." He said "no, it will create a situation where you are immune in a mission..."
He is clearly disagreeing with you. _____________________________________________
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian What. The. ****.
Incorrect, the CVA post was responding to you, which is why he copied your sentence structure and then said "pirates don't have an opinion in this..."
Also if you want to tell me that "Mambo Ted" and "Mombo Lev" sympathizing with one another in the same thread are not alts...
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:48:00 -
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Hmmmm....
I clearly misinterpreted what he was saying. Ok, sorry, I was wrong. Don't hurt me
However, I am right with what I said before. If you're in a mission you are still outside a station, and if you are immune to PvP in that mission you are still immune to PvP outside a station, which is against the rules of EVE.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:49:00 -
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Oh, I agree with you, which is why I am so amused that the OP is the alt of a CVA pilot.
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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:51:00 -
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It already is difficult to get a mission runner. You have to be rediculously close to have even a fair chance of getting a hit on them in deadspace (especially if they're not using drones). If the pirate gang doesn't have a prober with them then you're completely safe from them anyway. Then, if they DO get into your mission they have to hope they can burn to you fast enough to get a point or that you're close to the entry gate because they can't use MWDs in the deadspace.
If these advantages aren't enough for you, then you really need to run your missions in highsec. People will still be able to probe you out and steal your objective, but at least they won't be able to kill you...
Originally by: Buyerr although in eve it seems the gm's/devs or whoever sets the rules have their heads so far up their asses that they do not realize that attitude comes with consequence, and i really hope that these people do not have children and if they have that they do actually attend to them with another approach then what they are bringing to eve, or we will just have one more person in the world that is a wasted of air and which we would have been better of without.
Good thing they're not raising us then. I know I treat my customers at work the same way I treat my kids.
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Tegashi
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:52:00 -
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Killing mission runners is a pretty low and dirty practice. In many cases, the odds are so stacked against the mission runner that they don't have a chance. This doesn't qualify as 'PvP' in my view, only griefing since it's such a one-sided engagement.
The WoW comment makes me chuckle. The same 'PvP' douchebag mentality strongly exists there too.
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Kraven Kor
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:54:00 -
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The OP is looking at this as a tragic loss of money, when he should be looking at it as an amazing opportunity.
With the right plan and a little luck, you could add those reds to the pile of wrecks you will loot and salvage at the end of the mission. (Did you know that player ships have cooler salvage and occasionally drop T2 modules?)
They will probably leave you to your missions once you kill them a sufficient amount of times. ----- You're not what you are, you're just what you do! So it ends with their butts and it starts with your shoe! - Awesome Car Fun Maker |
Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tegashi The WoW comment makes me chuckle. The same 'PvP' douchebag mentality strongly exists there too.
But...but...where do they tell you to go? ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |
Tegashi
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Tegashi The WoW comment makes me chuckle. The same 'PvP' douchebag mentality strongly exists there too.
But...but...where do they tell you to go?
Heh, that's an interesting question. At the time I played, it was Guild Wars ..... Or Hello Kitty Adventure Island.
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