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Trek
Minmatar N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.07 19:19:00 -
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Has anyone compared the performance between the cedega wrapped official client and running the windows-client using wine?
At the moment the only bugs I am suffering using wine is the mini-maps not working, not really a showstopper. Does the cedega client suffer from this too? How does the performance compare?
I tried the beta linux client a while ago but had no luck getting it to work. So unless the current client holds some obvious advantages over using wine I honestly think I'll stick with wine. --- My other ship is a Reaper
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Glengrant
Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.07 23:23:00 -
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I have been using eve under wine (on ubuntu) for over half a year - works fine. Performane not optimal but ok (hardware: 2Ghz core 2 duo 2 GB RAM, GeForce Go 7900 GS).
Have been trying the official client since yeaterday. It is noticably faster. But has one annoying bug: When I alt-tab to another app (e.g. Firefox) and go back then eve doesn't accept any keyboard input anymore. Have to restart to be able to type into chat or do anything else with keyboard (mouse keeps working). DXGrab is switched off - otherwise mouse cant leave eve window (plaing windowed of course to get at other apps).
I don't have sound atm (used to work months ago) - probably problem with my alsa setup I think (though dvd, mp3 etc... sound all works fine).
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FiXato
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Posted - 2007.11.07 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Glengrant
But has one annoying bug: When I alt-tab to another app (e.g. Firefox) and go back then eve doesn't accept any keyboard input anymore. Have to restart to be able to type into chat or do anything else with keyboard (mouse keeps working). DXGrab is switched off - otherwise mouse cant leave eve window (plaing windowed of course to get at other apps).
Try to press CTRL+SHIFT+ALT at the same time when returned to Eve; that seems to work for me.
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Trek
Minmatar N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.08 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Glengrant I have been using eve under wine (on ubuntu) for over half a year - works fine. Performane not optimal but ok (hardware: 2Ghz core 2 duo 2 GB RAM, GeForce Go 7900 GS).
Have been trying the official client since yeaterday. It is noticably faster. But has one annoying bug: When I alt-tab to another app (e.g. Firefox) and go back then eve doesn't accept any keyboard input anymore. Have to restart to be able to type into chat or do anything else with keyboard (mouse keeps working). DXGrab is switched off - otherwise mouse cant leave eve window (plaing windowed of course to get at other apps).
I don't have sound atm (used to work months ago) - probably problem with my alsa setup I think (though dvd, mp3 etc... sound all works fine).
Hmm... Noticably faster you say, does sound quite intriguing since I'm using some quite outdated hardware. The loss of input on the other hand is a bit of a downer, but it sounds like it may be some window manager quirk.
Oh and another thing, does it still spread out files all over the hard-drive like some silly windows application?
--- My other ship is a Reaper
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Glengrant
Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.08 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Trek
Originally by: Glengrant
Oh and another thing, does it still spread out files all over the hard-drive like some silly windows application?
Yup. And that's actually the Unix way of doing things (windows is catching up to that). The idea is to have configuration in 1 place (/etc) - apps in another etc... Allows for optimizations like keeping some stuff on read-only partition, or on a read optimized partition, /tmp might be a ram disk, etc...
On a distro with good package management it's no problem as the package will do the work. As long as there is a .deb (or better a repository) I don't care much where they put stuff.
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Glengrant
Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.08 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: FiXato
Try to press CTRL+SHIFT+ALT at the same time when returned to Eve; that seems to work for me.
Cool- that does the trick.
Acceptable workaround.
Now the only issue left is getting sound to work again. Used to work but stopped a while ago. But I think that's a problem with my general sound config - I think it stopped working when I upgraded to gutsy (during beta) and they had switched from esound to pulseaudio. Sound *does* work otherwise on my Ubuntu system though - so not sure what's the problem here exactly.
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Slighet
Critical Analysis Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.11.08 14:46:00 -
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The official client is noticeably slower than Wine for me.
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Trek
Minmatar N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.08 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Glengrant Edited by: Glengrant on 08/11/2007 08:49:36
Originally by: Trek
Oh and another thing, does it still spread out files all over the hard-drive like some silly windows application?
Yup. And that's actually the Unix way of doing things (windows is catching up to that). The idea is to have configuration in 1 place (/etc) - apps in another etc... Allows for optimizations like keeping some stuff on read-only partition, or on a read optimized partition, /tmp might be a ram disk, etc...
You are right, I am well aware of that after more than 10 years of *ix usage. I think I was comparing to the wine way of doing things, installing the game in a directory in your home (which also is true for the cedega client). But at the same time somehow neglecting how the rest of the wine installation looks. /me goes stands in a corner
--- My other ship is a Reaper
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Glengrant
Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.09 18:23:00 -
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Well - both ways have their pro and cons.
having all stuff belonging to an app in one place isa neat of course. makes it easier to get an overview and throw it away if messed up. :-)
Back to wine based vs official cedega wrapped client:
After a few days this is what I found: Wine (used that for most of 07 until a few days ago): * speed is ok * small maps in mission info scrambled
Official client: * noticably faster than wine for me * need to uncheck DXGrab in windowed otherwise mouse id restricted to even client * no german umlauts (have yet to check whether I can fix codepage in prefs.ini or something) * no blue boxes on chat char entries - nor overview! Not sure red boxes etc.. all correct - some at least show in chat * no keyboard input after alt-tab and back (workaround see above in this thread) * on startup 2 windows (evefile.exe and eve.exe - eve.exe closes after login) - not a big deal but clunky
So apart from the nice speed improvement wine currently supports eve better than the official client. But it's early days. I'll be very satisfied if the mentioned issues get fixed during the next couple of months or so.
In either case I don't have sound in eve atm - but I think that's a problem with my sound config. I had sound in Eve until a few weeks ago - got ganked about the time I upgraded to Gutsy (late beta).
What bothers me most is that we (Linux users) have to wait longer for graphics engine update. I was already very happy with wine. My big hope for official client was that it would avoid extra patchday issues (wine can take a gew days to catch up after a big patch). And I'm fed up with Eve keeping my CPU busy while my graphics adapter is bored.
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